• Insane Clown Posse sues the FBI over being classed as a gang.
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[QUOTE]Every year, the FBI releases its [URL="http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/2011-national-gang-threat-assessment/"]National Gang Threat Assessment List[/URL], which examines "emerging gang trends and threats posed by criminal gangs and communities throughout the United States." In 2011, Juggalos were added to the list. You already know about [URL="http://noisey.vice.com/noisey-specials/american-juggalo"]Juggalos[/URL], those zany, slap-happy, face-painted faygo-swillers who have made the Insane Clown Posse their religion. Well, now they're all members of a criminal gang, and Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope from ICP are gang leaders.Well, ICP is about to start fighting back, and they're reacting by suing the FBI. Let me say that again and make it clearer. [B]Insane Clown Posse is suing the Federal Bureau of Investigation[/B]. Last night, I was chilling with Joseph Bruce, AKA Violent J of ICP, in his bus at the 13th annual Gathering Of The Juggalos (I'm so happy I get to write that—thanks, VICE!). He told me that "ICP is going to do something huge for our fans, and the world. We're suing the FBI to be taken off their list. They're trying to kill our band, and we have to fight back." In the weeks leading up to this year's Gathering of the Juggalos, ICP's attorneys warned that "there's no telling what's gonna happen at the Gathering this year. This is the first time we had the festival now that we're a 'gang.' According to the FBI, we're all at a gang rally, and our merchandise is gang apparel." Although currently only considered a gang in four states, law enforcement in 21 states have identified and logged criminal Juggalo subsets. In those states, if an ICP fan is on probation, and he or she wears an ICP hat to a parole meeting, that's a violation of probation for wearing gang apparel. "Let's get this straight," he continued, "a Juggalo is not a gang member. Consider a Juggalo that, 15 years ago, got a hatchet man tattoo or something. Now they've got a family, they're working in real estate or something, and they're driving home and get a speeding ticket. Next thing you know, he's in the gang file, and that will be taken into consideration in any trial. Suddenly, it ain't just somebody who fucked up, it's a gang member who fucked up, and they're getting a heavier sentence." Violent J explained how the FBI's ruling has affected ICP's business in a major way: "When we made that list, stores like Hot Topic stopped carrying our shit because they don't want to be selling gang apparel." "This lawsuit isn't just for the fans. It's also for the good people who work at Psychopathic Records. There are 30 employees. Some of these people started off when we were 18 years old, but now some of them have been working here for 20 years. That's their career now. They have kids, and wives, and husbands. Next thing you know, they're working for a gang."[/QUOTE] [URL]http://www.vice.com/read/icp-has-announced-their-plans-to-sue-the-fbi[/URL] juggalos are family 4 lyfe
It does seem pretty silly that they're classified as one to begin with, he put out a pretty good point too.
FUCKING MAGISTRATES, HOW DO THEY WORK?
Violent J makes a lot of sense in a way, but he's hilarious and kinda really fucked up. watch this whole interview with violent J [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KxTUZ33gdM[/media]
ICP is retarded as fuck anyways
can't say I blame the FBI, the first thing out of the mouths of many other gangs and gang members is "this is my family/they are like a family to me"
Juggalo island 4 lyfe
down w/ the clown since 13 woop woop \:D/ \m/
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I loved their line they threw at eminem in a diss where they called him: [I]"Slim anus"[/I] and his retaliation was: [I]"Damn right slim anus, cause I don't get fucked in mine like you flaming faggots"[/I] Funny shit.
Well when you call yourself "Violent J" you can't really be surprised when the police pay close attention to you.
ICP is still around? Last I heard about them was when they had did a comeback album or something around the time I was in 6th grade. It was 2006.
[QUOTE=brianosaur;37173254]Violent J makes a lot of sense in a way, but he's hilarious and kinda really fucked up. watch this whole interview with violent J [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KxTUZ33gdM[/media][/QUOTE] 'Some black rappers'? Do they really allow him to say shit like that on public TV?
More power to them as far as I'm concerned. I listened to ICP back in highschool, and guess what? I'm not in a gang. I don't smoke weed, not that I'm against it. I definitely don't go around killing people. All my friends that listened to it came out fine too. All they do is make music. They are entertaining for people. It's not like they are the only group that has a following either. It's the same with every other popular rapper. Just because people associate them with violence doesn't mean they are causing violence. It sure as hell doesn't warrent them to be classified as a gang group either. That's the one of the problems I have with the government. It's run by people of a completely different generation who doesn't like change, and completely rejects everything the younger generation has to say about anything. As far as their concerned everyone should be listening to country music, or Justin Bieber. Rock, rap, metal, hiphop, and all the other genres cause violence in their eyes. For fucks sake they think smoking pot and playing video games is corrupting kids. No one wants to take responsibility for raising their own damn kids. Just pointing the blame at anything they are unfamiliar with. It's bullshit.
ICP is stupid but I think they're hillarious and I give them props for being around for a long ass time.
[QUOTE=J!NX;37173312]ICP is retarded as fuck anyways[/QUOTE] Some of their female fans are hot as hell
[QUOTE=Lamar;37173018]It does seem pretty silly that they're classified as one to begin with, he put out a pretty good point too.[/QUOTE] What ICP says is a kinda stupid non-argument based on appeal to emotion. The FBI sounds like it has data. [QUOTE]Most crimes committed by Juggalos are sporadic, disorganized, individualistic, and often involve simple assault, personal drug use and possession, petty theft, and vandalism. However, open source reporting suggests that a small number of Juggalos are forming more organized subsets and engaging in more gang-like criminal activity, such as felony assaults, thefts, robberies, and drug sales. ... Juggalos’ disorganization and lack of structure within their groups, coupled with their transient nature, makes it difficult to classify them and identify their members and migration patterns. Many criminal Juggalo subsets are comprised of transient or homeless individuals, according to law enforcement reporting. Most Juggalo criminal groups are not motivated to migrate based upon traditional needs of a gang. However, law enforcement reporting suggests that Juggalo criminal activity has increased over the past several years and has expanded to several other states. Transient, criminal Juggalo groups pose a threat to communities due to the potential for violence, drug use/sales, and their general destructive and violent nature.[/QUOTE] And before somebody asks what "open-source reporting" means, no, it's not blogs or some shit, but "a broad array of information and sources that are generally available, including information obtained from the media (newspapers, radio, television, etc.), professional and academic records (papers, conferences, professional associations, etc.), and public data (government reports, demographics, hearings, speeches, etc.)."
faygo is the new 40 oz
[QUOTE=l l;37174061]faygo is the new 40 oz[/QUOTE] gas station/dollar store 40 oz
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[QUOTE=TamTamJam;37173755]'Some black rappers'? Do they really allow him to say shit like that on public TV?[/QUOTE] Saying black is offensive?
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;37173514]I loved their line they threw at eminem in a diss where they called him: [I]"Slim anus"[/I] and his retaliation was: [I]"Damn right slim anus, cause I don't get fucked in mine like you flaming faggots"[/I] Funny shit.[/QUOTE] That is amazing.
[QUOTE=Scot;37174217]Saying black is offensive?[/QUOTE] No, but why did they have to mention black? Couldn't they have just said some rappers?
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[QUOTE=Elecbullet;37173983]Some of their female fans are hot as hell[/QUOTE] [img]http://bronanthebarbarian.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/juggalo-girls.jpg[/img] [b][i]DAYUUUUUUUM[/i][/b]
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I still stand by my opinion that Juggalos are closer to a cult than a gang.
I like ICP's music, but damn the fanbase is fucked.
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