• Trump cancels an Obama-era ban on the sale of disposable plastic water bottles at National Parks
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[quote]The federal government announced Wednesday it will eliminate a policy that allowed national parks like the Grand Canyon to ban the sale of bottled water in an effort to curb litter. The National Park Service said in a statement it made the decision to “expand hydration options for recreationalists, hikers, and other visitors to national parks.” [b]The rules were first put in place in 2011 after it became clear discarded water bottles were becoming a big litter problem in national parks.[/b] The policy did not stop the sale of bottled sweetened drinks. Officials say 23 of the 417 National Park Service sites have implemented the policy since it was enacted. Those include some the nation’s most popular destinations such as the Grand Canyon, Zion National Park, Bryce Canyon National Park and Mount Rushmore. The bottled water and beverage industry have previously lobbied aggressively to keep bottled water at U.S. national parks. [...] [b]The parks system has done studies that show plastic bottles are among the biggest source of pollution in places like the Grand Canyon.[/b] In a 2012 report, the Grand Canyon found large decreases in bottles found on trails, for example. The study also cited birds and other animals getting plastic chunks of bottle lodged in their throats. Grand Canyon National Park did not immediately respond to requests for comment. It is unclear if it will allow retailers to start selling disposable water bottles again.[/quote] [url=http://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-national-park-service-ends-ban-on-disposable-water-bottles-2017-8]Source: Business Insider[/url] Who gives a fuck about pollution right, if Obama did this it must be reversed :vs:
My quote from another thread is sadly just as relevant here too. [QUOTE=BlindSniper17;52581240]I always get a chuckle out of comments from alt-right people about how people are constantly "triggered" by Trump and can't get him out of their minds, when Trump actually does act the same way about anything Obama has touched, no matter how small and insignificant.[/QUOTE]
Why? I mean, besides the obligatory "REMOVE OBAMA" memeshit orange fatty's known for.
Imagine being so racist that you run for president, a role you are in no way fit to perform properly, just so you can mess up [b]anything[/b], no matter how inoffensive and minor, the guy before you did because you were mad that he was black. At first I could believe Trump was against Obama's actions on an ideological level, but he's going after such inconsequential or unwise to change stuff that I'm convinced it's personal.
Pollution at the Grand Canyon, the fucking Grand Canyon, like jesus christ people are shit.
Make America's Hydration Options Expanded Again!
If Obama found a cure for cancer, trump would cancel all research and spread cancer in the atmosphere so everyone gets it.
Imagine trying to have your entire legacy be undoing the last guy's positive legacy, and even being bad at that.
[QUOTE=StoneRabbit;52587388]If Obama found a cure for cancer, trump would cancel all research and spread cancer in the atmosphere so everyone gets it.[/QUOTE] Considering how much Trump is already going out of his way to censor/stifle Climate Change research on his own, let's be very grateful that Obama didn't find the cure to Climate Change. :v:
I wouldn't be surprised if he was bribed to do this.
it's going to be enjoyable to watch this idiot get ousted from office. Preferably via launched by a canon.
Ignoring Trump's idiocy for a second, why don't other countries do the same like here in Germany? Depending on the plastic used you have to pay extra but once the bottle is empty you can return it and get the extra money you've paid back, and that's how it can get recycled way easier. Same also goes with certain types of glass bottles.
[QUOTE=Plaster;52587578]Ignoring Trump's idiocy for a second, why don't other countries do the same like here in Germany? Depending on the plastic used you have to pay extra but once the bottle is empty you can return it and get the extra money you've paid back, and that's how it can get recycled way easier. Same also goes with certain types of glass bottles.[/QUOTE] There's a little note on bottles here (and in the States) saying you can bring the bottle back for compensation in some provinces and states, but I've never heard of anyone actually taking them in
[QUOTE=Plaster;52587578]Ignoring Trump's idiocy for a second, why don't other countries do the same like here in Germany? Depending on the plastic used you have to pay extra but once the bottle is empty you can return it and get the extra money you've paid back, and that's how it can get recycled way easier. Same also goes with certain types of glass bottles.[/QUOTE] thats socialism!
[QUOTE=Sableye;52587588]thats socialism![/QUOTE] I know your joking, But there probably are some people who actually think that :<
I wonder, if Obama went on Twitter and said "I did my best to get Trump into office, He's gonna MAGA" Would Trump quit just to spite him? Also it's so fucking funny how a few days ago he went like "It's so sad to see these beautiful things removed" and yet seeing some of the most breathtaking sights on this planet get polluted iis fine to him.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;52587969]I wonder, if Obama went on Twitter and said "I did my best to get Trump into office, He's gonna MAGA" Would Trump quit just to spite him? Also it's so fucking funny how a few days ago he went like "It's so sad to see these beautiful things removed" and yet seeing some of the most breathtaking sights on this planet get polluted iis fine to him.[/QUOTE] I would love for Obama to tweet something like that just so the media would be forced to ask "Is Obama trolling the potus on twitter?"
[QUOTE=Plaster;52587578]Ignoring Trump's idiocy for a second, why don't other countries do the same like here in Germany? Depending on the plastic used you have to pay extra but once the bottle is empty you can return it and get the extra money you've paid back, and that's how it can get recycled way easier. Same also goes with certain types of glass bottles.[/QUOTE] Wait you're saying that's not standard practice? God damn.
I wonder if owning a water bottle company himself helped to make this decision.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;52587969]Also it's so fucking funny how a few days ago he went like "It's so sad to see these beautiful things removed" and yet seeing some of the most breathtaking sights on this planet get polluted iis fine to him.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/WLCZx0O.png[/IMG] sorry its a political cartoon but has a valid point.
WHY THO
Is this where national parks everywhere are gonna issue their own bans now.
I'm more shocked that we were only at 10% implementation after five/six years
[QUOTE=_charon;52587586]There's a little note on bottles here (and in the States) saying you can bring the bottle back for compensation in some provinces and states, but I've never heard of anyone actually taking them in[/QUOTE] We did plenty at least in Michigan. Hell, we'd save up bottles and cans from multiple parties, recycle all of them, then throw a small party with that money.
[QUOTE=_charon;52587586]There's a little note on bottles here (and in the States) saying you can bring the bottle back for compensation in some provinces and states, but I've never heard of anyone actually taking them in[/QUOTE] In California we have a thing called CRV, California Refund Value. This CRV is printed on all plastic bottles, aluminum cans, and glass bottles sold in the state. My family for years have been hoarding all the things that have a CRV and once we have several big bags full of them we head to a recycling center and get paid. On a good day we got over 100 dollars. I do not know if this is what you are referring too or about something else
A 1 dollar deposit for bottles in national parks would be a better solution than outright banning bottled water. [editline]19th August 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Plaster;52587578]Ignoring Trump's idiocy for a second, why don't other countries do the same like here in Germany? Depending on the plastic used you have to pay extra but once the bottle is empty you can return it and get the extra money you've paid back, and that's how it can get recycled way easier. Same also goes with certain types of glass bottles.[/QUOTE] Lobbying, apparantly: [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Container_deposit_legislation#United_States[/url]
Denmark runs on a deposit system, I don't think it's that uncommon.
[QUOTE=Plaster;52587578]Ignoring Trump's idiocy for a second, why don't other countries do the same like here in Germany? Depending on the plastic used you have to pay extra but once the bottle is empty you can return it and get the extra money you've paid back, and that's how it can get recycled way easier. Same also goes with certain types of glass bottles.[/QUOTE] The interesting part is, it does not eliminate littering but there are a lot of homeless people or others that go around and pick those bottles up, basically catching two birds with one stone. On topic, I hope the next president will reverse the shit Trump did. This literally is just looking like some allergy that says "REVERSE" if it got Obama in its name or anywhere close to it.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;52587424]Imagine trying to have your entire legacy be undoing the last guy's positive legacy, and even being bad at that.[/QUOTE] I'm envisioning a particular teenager in art college who wanted to be a painter - but who was rejected by a professor which he suspected was of a particular religion. A teenager who later went on to kill millions out of his deep-seated hatred for those of that religion; a religion he believed was the core of his society's problems. Now I'm thinking of a wealthy teenager being raised by a man who believed folk of particular skin tone were the core of society's problems - who so believed in that idea that he was a member of party who wanted to kill folks of that skin tone. Then, later in his life, after years of promising that he'd run for the highest office in the land, a man of the particular skin tone his father hated mocks him openly on TV. Stewing in quiet anger, he schemes of a way to get back at that man - to turn his hatred into a weapon and to show that man of particular skin tone just what he thought of his remarks. He won't rest until he's better than that man - better in every respect - until he's made every part of that man's legacy moot and crushed into dust. Then, he remembers a book written by a teenager a long time ago who hated folk of a particular religion. A book that's on his nightstand along with copies of the various speeches said teenager made later in his life before large crowds; the largest in history - bigly. A book titled 'Mein Kampf'.
[QUOTE=Firgof Umbra;52592412]I'm envisioning a particular teenager in art college who wanted to be a painter - but who was rejected by a professor which he suspected was of a particular religion. A teenager who later went on to kill millions out of his deep-seated hatred for those of that religion; a religion he believed was the core of his society's problems. Now I'm thinking of a wealthy teenager being raised by a man who believed folk of particular skin tone were the core of society's problems - who so believed in that idea that he was a member of party who wanted to kill folks of that skin tone. Then, later in his life, after years of promising that he'd run for the highest office in the land, a man of the particular skin tone his father hated mocks him openly on TV. Stewing in quiet anger, he schemes of a way to get back at that man - to turn his hatred into a weapon and to show that man of particular skin tone just what he thought of his remarks. He won't rest until he's better than that man - better in every respect - until he's made every part of that man's legacy moot and crushed into dust. Then, he remembers a book written by a teenager a long time ago who hated folk of a particular religion. A book that's on his nightstand along with copies of the various speeches said teenager made later in his life before large crowds; the largest in history - bigly. A book titled 'Mein Kampf'.[/QUOTE] Dude, that's all bull and you know it. We all know Trump can't read.
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