• DEVELOPING: Shooting reported at Connecticut elementary school; 27 killed
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[QUOTE=thrawn2787;38830016]Why are you under the impression that owning a gun turns a person into a murderer? A ridiculous amount of the population in the US owns firearms but only a few crazy assmunchers go on these shooting sprees.[/QUOTE] I'm not under that impression: I'm under the impression that, if everyone were armed there would be, get this, more shooting going on than when only some people are armed.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;38830019]Any clue on what was wrong with the guy?[/QUOTE] He's a crazy asshole, that's probably all there is to it really.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38830023]You're wrong. That "everyone gets a free assault rifle in Switzerland" thing is more or less a myth. It's more like "free shooting range practice".[/QUOTE] Why even post something like that when it is just blatantly wrong. learn about how Switzerland's conscription and firearms programs work before acting like you know them
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;38829979]people can't carry full-auto pistols anyways[/QUOTE] I mean, yeah, but people still get them. Maybe I should change that up, not reduce the ability, more discourage the ability to carry around those things. I'm still sticking to my "Turn in guns for rewards" program.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38830032]I'm not under that impression: I'm under the impression that, if everyone were armed there would be, get this, more shooting going on than when only some people are armed.[/QUOTE] However, just because there's Concealed/Open carry, doesn't mean everyone will do it.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;38830024]Why is it obviously wrong? I genuinely don't know, I've always had a hard time taking sides in gun control debates.[/QUOTE] I meant this thread in particular, not the grand scheme of things.
the school was a gun free zone. he couldn't have brought a gun in there. it's a fact!!!!
[QUOTE=MTMod;38830027]I shouldn't need to go here. Having a CPL is a responsibility and a right, not an opportunity to be a "cowboy" or "someone with a gun in their coat". Getting your CPL for the sake of carrying a gun is frustrating to me. Shit's not funny.. it's a serious obligation. Moving on... I hope the second gunman is found and is given the right to sit in a concrete box until age and abuse send his soul to the 7th circle of hell.[/QUOTE] "Canine Partners for Life" k94life.org/ Making the miracle of greater independence possible. (please define your terms)
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;38829956]I seriously hope this is satire. Some people actually believe that this will work.[/QUOTE] I call it population control Or filtering out the intelligent, useful people, from the stupid, completely useless waste of space hicks that this planet is overrun with
I don't see the big issue with gun control, perhaps I don't know enough about the subject, but surely sacrificing your extensive gun collection to prevent quite a few deaths from occuring is totally worth it. Is there some kind of data comparing the killings with guns to lives saved? (citizen use of course)
[QUOTE=Aman VII;38830035]Why even post something like that when it is just blatantly wrong. learn about how Switzerland's conscription and firearms programs work before acting like you know them[/QUOTE] How about you do the unthinkable and actually provide sources on your points or a little more substance then "ur wrong"
People who do shootings tend to have mental illnesses. Normal people aren't going to do it.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;38830047]"Canine Partners for Life" k94life.org/ Making the miracle of greater independence possible. (please define your terms)[/QUOTE] try cpl gun (Concealed Pistol License)
[QUOTE=Craig Willmore;38830046]the school was a gun free zone. he couldn't have brought a gun in there. it's a fact!!!![/QUOTE] Oh shut up.
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;38830062]How about you do the unthinkable and actually provide sources on your points or a little more substance then "ur wrong"[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland[/url] It's not hard to find the info
-snip, I'm stupid, I'm stepping outta this thrread-
[QUOTE=soccerskyman;38829937]Huge groups of people shooting guns at eachother. Brilliant.[/QUOTE] How does that even make any sense? Will registered gun holders suddenly all start shooting each other?
CBS says it sounds like the shooter's mom was a teacher in the school and was targeted by him, inside the classroom where he opened fire. EDIT* The mom is among the dead.
God this is so damn sad, when I read the news a few hours ago I heard there only were 2 victims and that was it. Never imagined 27 people, and 18 children? Can't imagine what their families are going through.
[QUOTE=RidleySmash;38830051]I call it population control Or filtering out the intelligent, useful people, from the stupid, completely useless waste of space hicks that this planet is overrun with[/QUOTE] Please do go on I want to hear the rest of this
[QUOTE=Aman VII;38830078][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland[/url] It's not hard to find the info[/QUOTE] uh okay, this pretty much proves both mine and Sigma's point.
[QUOTE=Lukeo;38830055]I don't see the big issue with gun control, perhaps I don't know enough about the subject, but surely sacrificing your extensive gun collection to prevent quite a few deaths from occuring is totally worth it. Is there some kind of data comparing the killings with guns to lives saved? (citizen use of course)[/QUOTE] Because me giving up the contents of my gun closet is going to save lives. Maybe you should give up your steam account because it will prevent OTHER kids from being lazy and playing games all day.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;38830097]God this is so damn sad, when I read the news a few hours ago I heard there only were 2 victims and that was it. Never imagined 27 people, and 18 children? Can't imagine what their families are going through.[/QUOTE] They still haven't confirmed the number, the BBC were slightly skeptical about it since it jumped around so much.
[QUOTE=Aman VII;38830078][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland[/url] It's not hard to find the info[/QUOTE] [I]"The low incidence of gun crime in Switzerland is sometimes attributed to the fact that Switzerland is wealthy but also isolated. Social problems associated with gun crime in other industrialised countries, such as drugs or urban deprivation, are not widespread. Swiss men and women learn from an early age to associate firearms with defense of their country.[14] While Switzerland has a strong 'Gun Culture', and hunting is popular, the high level of support for guns in the home is largely based around the fact that Militia service is such a strong part of Swiss society. In Switzerland the vast majority of gun related deaths are from suicide rather than homicide.[15][16]"[/I] Basically everything american isn't. Hardly supporting American's case now is it.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;38830047]"Canine Partners for Life" k94life.org/ Making the miracle of greater independence possible. (please define your terms)[/QUOTE] Because getting my Canine Partners for Life for the sake of carrying a gun makes perfect sense, you dolt. Exiting this thread. Best wishes to the families and the community who have to fight through this pain.
It really pisses me off when people have to derail the thread with stupid fucking arguments. Fuck off.
If you propose a 'solution' to these shootings, and it doesn't have full support on both sides, it's not going to be effective at all, even if you carry it out and enforce it. So regardless of whatever arguments people have, 'getting rid of guns' is not going to work, and is obviously unconstitutional so good luck even trying to go down that road. Maybe you could TRY coming up with a solution that people can agree with. That's a sign of an actual solution, not just you trying to impose your political views on everyone who disagrees with you.
[QUOTE=yumyumshisha;38830088]How does that even make any sense? Will registered gun holders suddenly all start shooting each other?[/QUOTE]One guy fires a gun, everyone draws and panic insues. People won't know who the offender is, might hit others, and just get confused.
[QUOTE=RidleySmash;38830051]I call it population control Or filtering out the intelligent, useful people, from the stupid, completely useless waste of space hicks that this planet is overrun with[/QUOTE] which category do you fit in and why please give specific explanations and examples
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;38830110]uh okay, this pretty much proves both mine and Sigma's point.[/QUOTE] Jesus I'd expect you to be able to at least scroll down a bit and read the article, guess you can't do that.
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