• Couple gets arrested for refusing to tip
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[QUOTE=The Ripper;18549076][IMG]http://cache.lifehacker.com/assets/resources/2008/06/carboard-box.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] LOL BOX is such afunny post you are a funny guy
[QUOTE=Bapebape|!bape;18548418]Well if I ever go to america I will tip waiter and waitresses, now that I know that they get less than minimum[/QUOTE] cool [QUOTE=Splurgy;18548432]The whole point of a tip is that it's a reward for good service. If you get crappy service, you [i]withhold[/i] the tip.[/QUOTE] not in america [QUOTE=Pretiacruento;18548599]Exactly. I dislike this kind of regulations because that gives waiters/waitresses the right to mistreat you and get away with it, since they know they're going to get a tip anyways. Something like this tried to be enforced over here but it failed -luckily-. Also, [b]A 20% TIP?![/b] That's waaaay too much of a tip[/QUOTE] A.) Waiters and waitresses don't intentionally mistreat any customer as long as the customer isn't being a fucking dick. You can be really difficult (asking for ridiculous amounts of substitutions etc) and they will bend over backwards to do it for you. They've got to deal with 15+ tables at a time so they're going to do whatever it takes to keep you happy to make their job easier. The fact that you think these people intentionally abuse their "power" is fucking ridiculous, are you 12? They're people, not some faceless corporation or some businessman. B.) 20% is a good tip, and it's the upper limit. You only give that to people that are fucking amazing (catering to everything you want, doing it on time, actually focusing on making your experience a good one) I've given a 20% tip maybe 10 times in my entire life. It's rare to find a waiter / waitress that is that good and that friendly [QUOTE=Pretiacruento;18548798]In my country it's not mandatory to tip, so I choose not to, most of the time (98+ percent of the time). Also, in case nobody knew about it, [url=http://menshair.about.com/od/yoursalonvisit/a/tipping.htm]barbers can also accept tips[/url] but you don't see barbers and hair stylists up in arms because nobody tips them, right?? Does that regulation in the States include barbers and hair stylists as well?? It's like "Don't tip these guys over here, but tip these guys over here"... it's bullshit... Sigh...[/QUOTE] mainly because most barbers + hairstylists work for companies (chains) and see little to no revenue of the amount of haircuts they give. It's a marxist idea - being alienated from your work because you're not seeing the revenue of the product you manufacture (in this case, the haircut). For places like "cost cutters" or whatever it doesn't matter how many cuts a worker does, they get paid a set amount per hour. on the other hand personal barbers (ones that open their own shops) get 100% of the revenue - however they've also got to pay for utilities etc and much of the revenue goes towards covering base costs, so people tend to tip so that the barber gets a little back all in all the basic idea is these people have [I]really fucking hard jobs[/I] - harder than you'd think. Waiters / waitresses work ridiculous hours at low wages, and barbers have to make a custom order for each individual and make sure that the cut is great otherwise they lose a customer (a lot of hairstyling is return business, you need people to keep coming back). You don't see cashiers getting tipped, because their jobs are fucking easy [editline]03:49PM[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;18549307]You just aren't tipping enough.[/QUOTE] funny story we had a waitress that would flash people at the new years parties for 5 bucks yeah we fired her pretty quick lovely girl (hot too) but we didn't have the permits to be doing that and wanted to keep a reputation of being a "family establishment" (we weren't, we once had a dude whip out his dick and start whacking off at the bar whenever our bartender would bend over - got the waiters to carry his ass out) people think that waiters and waitresses give them a hard time when in fact they've got to deal with so many dick consumers that you'd hate your life if you had their job worked as a barback for about a year, not fun (though I got a pretty good percentage of the bartending tips - bartenders make loooooaaaaaadddsss)
[QUOTE=BricknHead;18549548] A.) Waiters and waitresses don't intentionally mistreat any customer as long as the customer isn't being a fucking dick. You can be really difficult (asking for ridiculous amounts of substitutions etc) and they will bend over backwards to do it for you. They've got to deal with 15+ tables at a time so they're going to do whatever it takes to keep you happy to make their job easier. The fact that you think these people intentionally abuse their "power" is fucking ridiculous, are you 12? They're people, not some faceless corporation or some businessman. B.) 20% is a good tip, and it's the upper limit. You only give that to people that are fucking amazing (catering to everything you want, doing it on time, actually focusing on making your experience a good one) I've given a 20% tip maybe 10 times in my entire life. It's rare to find a waiter / waitress that is that good and that friendly mainly because most barbers + hairstylists work for companies (chains) and see little to no revenue of the amount of haircuts they give. It's a marxist idea - being alienated from your work because you're not seeing the revenue of the product you manufacture (in this case, the haircut). For places like "cost cutters" or whatever it doesn't matter how many cuts a worker does, they get paid a set amount per hour. on the other hand personal barbers (ones that open their own shops) get 100% of the revenue - however they've also got to pay for utilities etc and much of the revenue goes towards covering base costs, so people tend to tip so that the barber gets a little back all in all the basic idea is these people have [I]really fucking hard jobs[/I] - harder than you'd think. Waiters / waitresses work ridiculous hours at low wages, and barbers have to make a custom order for each individual and make sure that the cut is great otherwise they lose a customer (a lot of hairstyling is return business, you need people to keep coming back). You don't see cashiers getting tipped, because their jobs are fucking easy [editline]03:49PM[/editline] funny story we had a waitress that would flash people at the new years parties for 5 bucks yeah we fired her pretty quick lovely girl (hot too) but we didn't have the permits to be doing that and wanted to keep a reputation of being a "family establishment" (we weren't, we once had a dude whip out his dick and start whacking off at the bar whenever our bartender would bend over - got the waiters to carry his ass out) people think that waiters and waitresses give them a hard time when in fact they've got to deal with so many dick consumers that you'd hate your life if you had their job worked as a barback for about a year, not fun (though I got a pretty good percentage of the bartending tips - bartenders make loooooaaaaaadddsss)[/QUOTE] tl;dr version before editline: People who work in the service industry get tipped because they're servicing to other people's needs (If someone brings up an example like say, a garbage man, they get good pay with benefits I believe). As brick has said before, they get most of their pay from however busy the restaurant they work in goes. tl;dr version after editline: The service industry allows people to tip for services to an extent.
i didn't realize how much I typed until i posted god damn
[QUOTE=pyrofiliac;18548263]Here's a tip: stop posting.[/QUOTE] take your own advice homo
Currently I don't have the money to tip because every 10 cents is 10 cents more to my next meal. But overall I was raised with tipping so I'll start doing it when I have the money..
[QUOTE=BricknHead;18549548]The fact that you think these people intentionally abuse their "power" is fucking ridiculous, are you 12?[/QUOTE] People can have bad hair days and mistreat you for whatever reason, *specially* waiters. I don't understand what my age has anything to do with it. [QUOTE=BricknHead;18549548]I've given a 20% tip maybe 10 times in my entire life. It's rare to find a waiter / waitress that is that good and that friendly[/QUOTE] Cool, but being friendly and all is part of their job description. The same can be said of clerks and phone representatives (IMO phone representatives are the guys with the power to really fuck you up if they really want to) and you don't go around handing them tips for being nice. [QUOTE=BricknHead;18549548]personal barbers (ones that open their own shops) get 100% of the revenue - however they've also got to pay for utilities etc and much of the revenue goes towards covering base costs, so people tend to tip so that the barber gets a little back[/QUOTE] Yeah but if a waiter can have mandatory tips, why can't a barber enjoy the same benefit? What makes them different/superior than a barber, who works as much, or harder than them?? [QUOTE=BricknHead;18549548]all in all the basic idea is these people have [I]really fucking hard jobs[/I] - harder than you'd think. Waiters / waitresses work ridiculous hours at low wages, and barbers have to make a custom order for each individual and make sure that the cut is great otherwise they lose a customer (a lot of hairstyling is return business, you need people to keep coming back).[/QUOTE] Well then why don't we see barbers going batshit over waiters being tipped and not them? They have the same right, after all, don't they? [QUOTE=BricknHead;18549548]funny story we had a waitress that would flash people at the new years parties for 5 bucks yeah we fired her pretty quick[/QUOTE] Wow man!! Now _THAT'S_ something worth tipping for, see? :q:
[QUOTE=Bapebape|!bape;18548586]I can do a shitty job and still get paid the same amount. If i do a good job no one is going to give me a bonus or a tip. Tipping is a dumb practice (except in the US)[/QUOTE] Well tipping is there SO THAT IF YOU DO A GOOD JOB YOU GET MORE MONEY THUS YOU DO MORE GOOD JOB [editline]09:21PM[/editline] But forcing people to tip you is plain retarded
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;18550178]People can have bad hair days and mistreat you for whatever reason, *specially* waiters. I don't understand what my age has anything to do with it.[/quote] the fact that you stated that waiters would intentionally mistreat you is extremely juvenile and shows absolutely no experience in the subject, and making such a completely dumb statement leads one to believe that you're a child, no offense [quote]Cool, but being friendly and all is part of their job description. The same can be said of clerks and phone representatives (IMO phone representatives are the guys with the power to really fuck you up if they really want to) and you don't go around handing them tips for being nice.[/quote] yes and the 20% tips go to the people who are genuinely friendly. It's pretty easy to spot fake friendly. and yeah you're right the people on the phone are mildly disconcerting, I don't like giving out info like credit card info / social security etcetc (not being sarcastic) [quote]Yeah but if a waiter can have mandatory tips, why can't a barber enjoy the same benefit? What makes them different/superior than a barber, who works as much, or harder than them??[/quote] barbers can't be paid under minimum wage so it's not mandatory, it's only customary [quote]Well then why don't we see barbers going batshit over waiters being tipped and not them? They have the same right, after all, don't they?[/quote] because it would be pointless and counterproductive, I suppose [quote]Wow man!! Now _THAT'S_ something worth tipping for, see? :q:[/QUOTE] yep
Did you hear about the leper and the prostitute? He left her a nice [i]tip[/i] :smug:
[QUOTE=Epidemick;18550285]Well tipping is there SO THAT IF YOU DO A GOOD JOB YOU GET MORE MONEY THUS YOU DO MORE GOOD JOB [editline]09:21PM[/editline] But forcing people to tip you is plain retarded[/QUOTE] read thread
Yes, to all of you guys who are saying tipping is stupid, a sincere fuck you from any food servers. I worked as a bus boy for several months, and I made around 4 dollars per hour (since I was a bus boy, waiters make less since they keep more of the tip). I would get a cut of the tip from the waiter for every table that I helped out at, and ultimately, tips made about 75 percent of my wage. Working as a waiter or a bus boy isn't easy either, I was basically walking around non-stop for 5-6 hours taking care of 20 people, and I was working in a nice bistro restaurant so I had to wear extremely uncomfortable dress shoes. By the end of the night my feet were killing me, and I run track for god's sake. Take pity on waiters and bus boys, because they work a job that doesn't get a lot of thank you's, is easy to fuck up at, doesn't make much cash for the amount of work done, and most people really do try their best to make things gel so that you have a good experience. Of course, no one should be required to tip. If you don't you're a complete jack ass though. In this news story, I think the people were right to not tip though, and the restaurant was really stupid to call the police. Fuck that restaurant. Bad service doesn't deserve a tip.
This thread has made me want to watch Reservoir Dogs again.
I intentionally don't tip in restaurants that say they're required.
[QUOTE=spaghettiarms;18547810]Maybe up north where you're all scabby bastards. But down south, if the service was worthy of a tip, or if your waitress was hot, then is has to be done.[/QUOTE] But down South your all a bunch of funny talking fruit cakes.
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[quote]The owner admitted that the group waited unusually long for their food, but said the pub was extremely busy that night. He said managers offered to comp the food, a claim the couple denies ever happened.[/quote] Having worked in customer service I can guarantee he DID offer to comp the meal but they didn't hear him because they were too busy screaming at him
God damn just give the tip, that's how they earn most of their money.
I'm a waiter and it's bad man I need those tips to feed my kids
Wonder who.. [I]Tip[/I]ped the police off. Holy shit I'm on a roll. :v:
[QUOTE=TH89;18550871]Having worked in customer service I can guarantee he DID offer to comp the meal but they didn't hear him because they were too busy screaming at him[/QUOTE] customers always right man something that stops me from throwing utensils at them
[QUOTE=NotYou3;18547539]here in england we never give tips[/QUOTE] I give 10% usually. Sometimes we get an awesome waiter/waitress so I chuck some more in.
ughhhh They act like they absolutely NEED these meager tips to keep in business. They get paid to do their job, in theory that's all they need. Customers tip because they like the service and want to show their gratitude for employees enabling a good time. If the service is shit, you don't get tipped. I thought this has been established since the beginning of commercial eating out.
[QUOTE=KaIibos;18551344]ughhhh They act like they absolutely NEED these meager tips to keep in business. They get paid to do their job, in theory that's all they need. Customers tip because they like the service and want to show their gratitude for employees enabling a good time. If the service is shit, you don't get tipped. I thought this has been established since the beginning of commercial eating out.[/QUOTE] read thread
[QUOTE=sebbonaparta;18550408]I made around 4 dollars per hour (since I was a bus boy, waiters make less since they keep more of the tip)[/QUOTE] What the fuck? For that money (2,7€) I wouldn't even spit on the ground. I currently make 7€ which is $10,45 and I need a better job because this is the first proper job and it pays shit.
I would tip them like 5 bucks the most, unless I bought an expensive dinner.
[QUOTE=BricknHead;18548046]so clearly none of you people have ever worked in a restaurant waiters are paid below minimum wage as long as they make over 30 a month in tips employers are only required to pay 2-4 dollars depending on the state. In most states tipping 10% is mandatory. Waiters are paid BELOW MINIMUM WAGE. Tip, you fucking pricks. If they give bad service, fine, give them a 10% tip. If they give normal, 15%. If they're exceptional, 20%. It's not their job to make your time pleasant, it's their job to bring food to you. That's [I]it.[/I] this isn't coming from a waiter, my dad just owned a bar+grill. I've seen how the waitresses and waiters live - it's shit. Their jobs are way more difficult than you believe. edit: of course, made this reply when there were only like 4 in the thread[/QUOTE] what kind of stupid laws do these jesus fags have? cant they just [i]change[/i] them?
[QUOTE=BricknHead;18552066]read thread[/QUOTE] I did what's your point
That's fucking retarded.
[QUOTE=Cuel;18547571]I never give tips. They are there for my service, it's their JOB to serve me. Why would they receive more money for doing their regularly job?[/QUOTE] Because almost all waiters/waitresses get paid around half of minimum wage because the payment is that [b]plus tips[/b]
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