• Dragon's Crown already sold out in Japan at release week
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[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41656658]kotaku sucks, they don't care about that, they just wanna get views, its still true what he said, and the game is selling well, because despite the stupid art, is an awesome throw back to 90s arcade games, pretty sure insane breasts of the sorcerer help too. ridiculous boobs, breasts, ass is considered a good trait by MEN being ridiculous buff is considered to be a good trait by MEN women think a men that buff is disgusting as hell edit: let the boxfort commence.[/QUOTE] Oh yes, because all men have the exact same opinion on ideal body types and women never ever shares those opinions.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41656706]except amazon and sorcerer are STANDARD fap material, which is you know, consistent with every other damn game out there, kinda hard to claim its extreme when its pretty similar to other games, the only one that is SLIGHTLY unusual is the amazon.[/QUOTE] Here's the thing. There's a problem with breaking away from your standard design in order to make female characters more attractive. Classic example being the usual "the less you're wearing the better you're protected" armor trope. The problem isn't the design, it's that the design is out of context. In the case of Dragon's Crown, everything is ridiculous. It's the same super deformed hyper inflated design that you might see somewhere else, but it exists in a world of super deformed hyper inflated everything. It gels with the rest of the game, and as such I see no problem.
[QUOTE=Primigenes;41656717]Whats happening in that video and what George Kamitani drew are two different things Man the amazon doesn't have huge boobs. She's the same as the body builder women you see in pics but I guess with more hips You must have some sort of fetish if you find that attractive If you consider the Amazon fap material then you might as well consider the Dwarf because they're basically the same thing. Imho the only character that should even be considered fanservice is the Sorceress because thats exactly how she's supposed to be[/QUOTE] is not me who considers, is japan that does, look google if you don't believe me. [url]http://24.media.tumblr.com/2e66c5b850f0f14d24cf565c9e6d4b32/tumblr_mnurh7lPwn1qdxigto1_500.jpg[/url] regular art of amazon btw. [QUOTE=katbug;41656739]Thank you for telling me what every woman and every man thinks. Personally I find neither of them attractive, in any way, shape or form. And not "attractive" as "I want to dick that", attractive as in "I find almost every aspect of their design repusive". But you're not going to see me complaining about it like it's a social rights issue. And that's not because I'm a misogynist or part of "the patriarchy", it's because I'm not a whiny ass who can't fucking handle himself in public.[/QUOTE] [url]http://kotaku.com/5868595/nerds-and-male-privilege[/url] [QUOTE=MegaChalupa;41656758]Oh yes, because all men have the exact same opinion on ideal body types and women never ever shares those opinions.[/QUOTE] you denying the image of an ideal women tends to be somewhere around, large breasts and ass and/or slim body? really
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41656781]is not me who considers, is japan that does, look google if you don't believe me. [url]http://24.media.tumblr.com/2e66c5b850f0f14d24cf565c9e6d4b32/tumblr_mnurh7lPwn1qdxigto1_500.jpg[/url] regular art of amazon btw.[/QUOTE] Do you not see the difference between [t]http://24.media.tumblr.com/2e66c5b850f0f14d24cf565c9e6d4b32/tumblr_mnurh7lPwn1qdxigto1_500.jpg[/t] and [t]http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/screenshots/DragonsCrown/amazoni______a____________i_______psd_jpgcopy.jpg[/t] ???
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[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41656706]i knew you were going to say this, now read this [url]http://kotaku.com/5873885/nerds-and-male-privilege-part-2-deconstructing-the-arguments[/url] even kotaku with all its awfulness tends to make a decent article every now and then.[/QUOTE] Of course, let me search through this Kotaku article to find the point that might possibly be relevant to my post. Don't bother actually responding to me, that would require effort. And effort is hard.
[QUOTE=katbug;41656792]Do you not see the difference between [t]http://24.media.tumblr.com/2e66c5b850f0f14d24cf565c9e6d4b32/tumblr_mnurh7lPwn1qdxigto1_500.jpg[/t] and [t]http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/screenshots/DragonsCrown/amazoni______a____________i_______psd_jpgcopy.jpg[/t] ???[/QUOTE] and? my point stands, japan obviously think its hot otherwise you wouldn't be art like that, contrary to Primigenes point that i'm the one who think its hot lol [QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;41656805]Of course, let me search through this Kotaku article to find the point that might possibly be relevant to my post. Don't bother actually responding to me, that would require effort. And effort is hard.[/QUOTE] the article is the answer, and you don't need to read fully, you can get the point just by skimming over it
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41656544]not really... its actually "lol you gay", scantily clad muscular men like those dwarves, tend to be thrown around as a gay stereotype in japan, its painfully obvious really. 2 wrongs don't make a right[/QUOTE] its a fucking joke my word
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41656781]is not me who considers, is japan that does, look google if you don't believe me. [url]http://24.media.tumblr.com/2e66c5b850f0f14d24cf565c9e6d4b32/tumblr_mnurh7lPwn1qdxigto1_500.jpg[/url] regular art of amazon btw. [/QUOTE] Either you're retarded or you're really trying to stir up shit here. The two artstyles are completely different. The poses, the lineart, the definition of colors and body features are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. How are you this blind, man? [QUOTE=Wizards Court;41656818]and? my point stands, japan obviously think its hot otherwise you wouldn't be art like that, contrary to Primigenes point that i'm the one who think its hot lol [/QUOTE] By God, man, lewd and suggesting fan art exists of every single character in videogames. Do you really want me to go ahead and pull up like 50 thousand examples of normal characters drawn just like that? You seriously are trying WAY too hard to stir up shit here, bro, and I suggest you leave before you piss more people off.
whats the appeal of this game other than oversized anime boobs and borderline muscle fetish art.
"japan is a country of evil misogynistic savage chinks you're all privileged nerds" - wizards court, 2013
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41656818]and? my point stands, japan obviously think its hot otherwise you wouldn't be art like that, contrary to Primigenes point that i'm the one who think its hot lol the article is the answer, and you don't need to read fully, you can get the point just by skimming over it[/QUOTE] it's not sexualizing, it's a fucking play on how every other game does that shit you dont understand eastern game devs
[QUOTE=MrHeadHopper;41656831]Either you're retarded or you're really trying to stir up shit here. The two artstyles are completely different. The poses, the lineart, the definition of colors and body features are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. How are you this blind, man?[/QUOTE] you're obviously haven't read what i was answering to, re-read please(i mentioned twice). [QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;41656832]whats the appeal of this game other than oversized anime boobs and borderline muscle fetish art.[/QUOTE] its a good 90s style arcadey game, with bad art, but gameplay is what matters more.
i'm sorry if i appear to be apathetic or whatever but why must we deconstruct and analyze every single fucking game
[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;41656846]i'm sorry if i appear to be apathetic or whatever but why must we deconstruct and analyze every single fucking game[/QUOTE] why not, some people do that for living, others like it. you know having dumb art like this, doesn't make the game bad, people don't seem to understand that, it not as if you're going to suddenly turn into a misogynist because you like the game lol. [QUOTE=Diet Kane;41656835]"japan is a country of evil misogynistic savage chinks you're all privileged nerds" - wizards court, 2013[/QUOTE] yes thats what i said :suicide:
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41656781]is not me who considers, is japan that does, look google if you don't believe me. [url]http://24.media.tumblr.com/2e66c5b850f0f14d24cf565c9e6d4b32/tumblr_mnurh7lPwn1qdxigto1_500.jpg[/url] regular art of amazon btw. you denying the image of an ideal women tends to be somewhere around, large breasts and ass and/or slim body? really[/QUOTE] Ah yes, the great Japanese hive mind has decided that the Amazon is pure fan service. It's a good thing we can rule out authorial intent, what with the Japanese all deciding things with one single melded consciousness and all.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41656860] you know having dumb art like this, doesn't make the game bad, people don't seem to understand that, it not as if you're going to suddenly turn into a misogynist because you like the game lol.[/QUOTE] i get that vibe from a lot of people.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41656818]and? my point stands, japan obviously think its hot otherwise you wouldn't be art like that, contrary to Primigenes point that i'm the one who think its hot lol the article is the answer, and you don't need to read fully, you can get the point just by skimming over it[/QUOTE] The first is a depiction of a beautiful, strong woman in skimpy clothes. The other is a depiction of a woman who not only has hips large enough to give birth to a dreadnought class battleship, but is also so muscular she could kill you by flicking in your general direction. Not to fucking mention that this entire game is basically a throwback/play on other games that do the same thing.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;41656863]Ah yes, the great Japanese hive mind has decided that the Amazon is pure fan service. It's a good thing we can rule out authorial intent, what with the Japanese all deciding things with one single melded consciousness and all.[/QUOTE] funny you say that considering 2ch, largest board of japan refers to itself as a hivemind or sorts sometimes.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41656818]and? my point stands, japan obviously think its hot otherwise you wouldn't be art like that, contrary to Primigenes point that i'm the one who think its hot lol the article is the answer, and you don't need to read fully, you can get the point just by skimming over it[/QUOTE] Don't anybody let him google lion king with safe search off, his whole world view is likely to implode in on itself. Assume I'm stupid. Explain it to me. [editline]31st July 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Wizards Court;41656880]funny you say that considering 2ch, largest board of japan refers to itself as a hivemind or sorts sometimes.[/QUOTE] if 2chan is a hive mind then British Parliament is a calm and respectful meeting of like minded individuals
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41656880]funny you say that considering 2ch, largest board of japan refers to itself as a hivemind or sorts sometimes.[/QUOTE] "the in-jokes of an online image board represent the opinion of an entire country, and they're all disgusting yellow monkeys who draw bad art" - wizards court, 1976
Everybody! Look at what I found! [img]http://i.cubeupload.com/jjVC2r.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.cubeupload.com/uz91fo.jpg[/img] How could this sexual, mysoginistic "art" even exist? Gosh, I bet the japanese managed to alter such a beautiful piece of 3D artwork into this oversexualized, male-dependant, tidehunting dehumanizing garbage!
[QUOTE=No Party Hats;41656836]it's not sexualizing, it's a fucking play on how every other game does that shit you dont understand eastern game devs[/QUOTE] life of brian was a wholly inaccurate depiction of the life of jesus and i am offended
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;41656883]Don't anybody let him google lion king with safe search off, his whole world view is likely to implode in on itself. Assume I'm stupid. Explain it to me.[/QUOTE] this is the average man character in a game [IMG]http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18havtbck2ar3jpg/ku-medium.jpg[/IMG] this is the average woman [IMG]http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18havtbcbexfmjpg/ku-medium.jpg[/IMG] notice a trend? [QUOTE=Primigenes;41656904]That's fanart It doesn't really mean anything[/QUOTE] it isn't regular fantart through, it was a homage by another professional artist directed at the dragon's crown artist [QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;41656908]life of brian was a wholly inaccurate depiction of the life of jesus and i am offended[/QUOTE] amusingly enough, some people were in fact offended, but you don't have a history of constant mockery against the life of jesus since forever do you? you do however have fanservicey women in at least 90% of all games with women through
lol those are comic book characters
[QUOTE=MrHeadHopper;41656902]Everybody! Look at what I found! *big pictures* How could this sexual, mysoginistic "art" even exist? Gosh, I bet the japanese managed to alter such a beautiful piece of 3D artwork into this oversexualized, male-dependant, tidehunting dehumanizing garbage![/QUOTE] honestly I think Dota 2 could do with a tad less v necks but hey whatever, off topic
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41656909]this is the average man character in a game [IMG]http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18havtbck2ar3jpg/ku-medium.jpg[/IMG] this is the average woman [IMG]http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18havtbcbexfmjpg/ku-medium.jpg[/IMG] notice a trend? it isn't regular fantart through, it was a homage by another professional artist directed at the dragon's crown artist[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex133LSR6xE[/media] The artist lets you touch both barenaked men/ladies, does this please you? Also, it doesn't really differ in any form or way if fanart is made by a professional or by a 3 year old in mspaint. It is still fanart, and therefore, a direct homage to that person.
[QUOTE=MrHeadHopper;41656924][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex133LSR6xE[/media] The artist lets you touch both barenaked men/ladies, does this please you? Also, it doesn't really differ in any form or way if fanart is made by a professional or by a 3 year old in mspaint. It is still fanart, and therefore, a direct homage to that person.[/QUOTE] Let me think, does this please me? I laughed when the Orc started moaning sexually, does that count? oh and none of them are bare naked look up the definition of bare
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41656909] it isn't regular fantart through, it was a homage by another professional artist directed at the dragon's crown artist [/QUOTE] Do you know what fanart is?
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41656781]is not me who considers, is japan that does, look google if you don't believe me. [url]http://24.media.tumblr.com/2e66c5b850f0f14d24cf565c9e6d4b32/tumblr_mnurh7lPwn1qdxigto1_500.jpg[/url] regular art of amazon btw. [url]http://kotaku.com/5868595/nerds-and-male-privilege[/url] you denying the image of an ideal women tends to be somewhere around, large breasts and ass and/or slim body? really[/QUOTE] What's an ideal for one person isn't necessarily going to be the ideal for the next. Dragon's Crown offers a pretty big variety for both sexes with both the male and female characters having traits which are commonly found attractive. [img_thumb]http://gamerhorizon.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Dragons-Crown-Round-Table.jpg[/img_thumb] Just look at the full roster, each character fits into a certain archetype and can easily be said to be someone's ideal, male or female. IE Sorceress for people who like exaggerated womanly features, Amazoness for people who like, well, Amazons, Archer for people who like more modest depictions of females. Then both Knight and Wizard both have elements of designs which are pretty popular with females. Knight has the typical "bishounen" look found in a lot of Japanese media, as does the Wizard which has more than a passing visual resemblance to characters like Sephiroth who are immensely popular with the female fanbase. Then you have Dwarf who is your typical muscle head which is another popular archetype. Each character in the game has it's own appeal and it's distributed pretty evenly across the board, as each character has its own appeal in both the male and female fanbases.
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