• Dragon's Crown already sold out in Japan at release week
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[QUOTE=Primigenes;41656904]That's fanart It doesn't really mean anything[/QUOTE] This is the point I think you're missing Mr. Wizards If I drew Indiana Jones as an oiled up gimp being flogged by marian cravenwood, that wouldn't change indiana jones into a submissive gimp.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;41656967] If I drew Indiana Jones as an oiled up gimp being flogged by marian cravenwood, that wouldn't change indiana jones into a submissive gimp.[/QUOTE] you should draw that anyway
My god who cares?
I can see this game's only going to be remembered for one thing. Which is a shame, because the art style aside from the obvious is really neat, and the combat sounds great.
[QUOTE=MegaChalupa;41656945]What's an ideal for one person isn't necessarily going to be the ideal for the next. Dragon's Crown offers a pretty big variety for both sexes with both the male and female characters having traits which are commonly found attractive. [img_thumb]http://gamerhorizon.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Dragons-Crown-Round-Table.jpg[/img_thumb] Just look at the full roster, each character fits into a certain archetype and can easily be said to be someone's ideal, male or female. IE Sorceress for people who like exaggerated womanly features, Amazoness for people who like, well, Amazons, Archer for people who like more modest depictions of females. Then both Knight and Wizard both have elements of designs which are pretty popular with females. Knight has the typical "bishounen" look found in a lot of Japanese media, as does the Wizard which has more than a passing visual resemblance to characters like Sephiroth who are immensely popular with the female fanbase. Then you have Dwarf who is your typical muscle head which is another popular archetype. Each character in the game has it's own appeal and it's distributed pretty evenly across the board, as each character has its own appeal in both the male and female fanbases.[/QUOTE] that knight is fucking hilarious
[QUOTE=Namaste;41656974]My god who cares?[/QUOTE] Don't you see? [B][I]Everyone!![/I][/B]
[QUOTE=Diet Kane;41656970]you should draw that anyway[/QUOTE] I'm busy morally corrupting Beyond Good and Evil by drawing the main character in a submissive pose. They almost had a female protagonist who wasn't defined by her gender. They didn't count on me and my magical fan ar- I mean [I]professional homage.[/I]
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41656909]this is the average man character in a game [IMG]http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18havtbck2ar3jpg/ku-medium.jpg[/IMG] this is the average woman [IMG]http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18havtbcbexfmjpg/ku-medium.jpg[/IMG] notice a trend? [/QUOTE] Ooh ooh ooh I can play the cherry picking game too [IMG]http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18havtbck2ar3jpg/ku-medium.jpg[/IMG] Here's the average male in a video game [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2b/Alyx_Vance.png/240px-Alyx_Vance.png[/t][t]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100616063129/mirrorsedge/images/a/a2/Faith_chase.jpg[/t][t]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110918152144/deusex/en/images/e/ed/Faridah_Malik.png[/t] And here's the average female in a video game
[QUOTE=legolover122;41657093]Ooh ooh ooh I can play the cherry picking game too [IMG]http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18havtbck2ar3jpg/ku-medium.jpg[/IMG] Here's the average male in a video game [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2b/Alyx_Vance.png/240px-Alyx_Vance.png[/t][t]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100616063129/mirrorsedge/images/a/a2/Faith_chase.jpg[/t][t]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110918152144/deusex/en/images/e/ed/Faridah_Malik.png[/t] And here's the average female in a video game[/QUOTE] let's not even start when his examples were from comic books anyway
[QUOTE=legolover122;41657093]Ooh ooh ooh I can play the cherry picking game too [IMG]http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18havtbck2ar3jpg/ku-medium.jpg[/IMG] Here's the average male in a video game [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2b/Alyx_Vance.png/240px-Alyx_Vance.png[/t][t]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100616063129/mirrorsedge/images/a/a2/Faith_chase.jpg[/t][t]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110918152144/deusex/en/images/e/ed/Faridah_Malik.png[/t] And here's the average female in a video game[/QUOTE] that isn't the average women in a game and you know it. [QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;41657119]let's not even start when his examples were from comic books anyway[/QUOTE] you mean this is not the average western male character design? i mean come on? kratos, gears of war characters for instance.
[QUOTE=katbug;41656466]He responded in exactly the best way he could have. Just because a joke might be offensive to some people does not mean it isn't relevant, and does NOT mean it isn't funny.[/QUOTE] [i]lol ur gay[/i] stops being funny when you pass the age of 10
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41657120]that isn't the average women in a game and you know it.[/QUOTE] the average men in a game isn't Hugo Strange either.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41657120]that isn't the average women in a game and you know it.[/QUOTE] Neither are the examples you listed and you know it as well. You can't just generalize an entire industry like that. [editline]31st July 2013[/editline] Hell, Batman, Joker and Hugo don't represent the entirety of males in video games as well. Do I need to bring out Otacon, Carmine and Barry Wheeler?
[QUOTE=legolover122;41657137]Neither are the examples you listed and you know it as well. You can't just generalize an entire industry like that.[/QUOTE] except thats how they portray themselves, have you been playing the same games everyone has on the past 10 years? comic book characters are just the same symptom, plus they tend to share audiences. here is a perfect example nier west vs japan [IMG]http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5421/nierps3vsxbox360.jpg[/IMG] the only reason the industry isn't buff dudes 24/7 is because japan goes against that current, because they find it ridiculous at all times.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;41657128][i]lol ur gay[/i] stops being funny when you pass the age of 10[/QUOTE] Except it wasn't "lol ur gay" It was "lol you're playing the cherrypicking game, have something I drew for just this occasion"
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41657120]you mean this is not the average western male character design? i mean come on? kratos, gears of war characters for instance.[/QUOTE] Honestly Kratos and Marcus Fenix aren't the norm. The norm is square head, brown hair, slight stubble. you know, like [url]http://cdn.motocross.transworld.net/files/2010/04/dtr.jpg[/url] [url]http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/35723iE7787D848D7B7D86/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1[/url] [url]http://threeheadedblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/main-character.jpg[/url] [url]http://pxlbyte.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/booker-dewitt.png[/url] I guess the jaws are consistently not round?
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41657153]except thats how they portray themselves, have you been playing the same games everyone has on the past 10 years? comic book characters are just the same symptom, plus they tend to share audiences. here is a perfect example nier west vs japan [IMG]http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5421/nierps3vsxbox360.jpg[/IMG] the only reason the industry isn't buff dudes 24/7 is because japan goes against that current, because they find it ridiculous at all times.[/QUOTE] "only" You really use that too much, generalization isn't going to solve ANY problems.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41657153]except thats how they portray themselves, have you been playing the same games everyone has on the past 10 years? comic book characters are just the same symptom, plus they tend to share audiences. here is a perfect example nier west vs japan [IMG]http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5421/nierps3vsxbox360.jpg[/IMG] the only reason the industry isn't buff dudes 24/7 is because japan goes against that current, because they find it ridiculous at all times.[/QUOTE] I wish comics had one tenth of the audience that video games had, they might make some decent money then And the fuck are you talking about? Japan is the country that brought us Fist of the North Star, Berserk, Asura's Wrath, Dragon Ball etc. . . they have tons of slab beefman characters.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;41657197]I wish comics had one tenth of the audience that video games had, they might make some decent money then And the fuck are you talking about? Japan is the country that brought us Fist of the North Star, Berserk, Asura's Wrath, Dragon Ball etc. . . they have tons of slab beefman characters.[/QUOTE] dragon ball is mocked at japan, fist of the north star style is used as way to make everything look super manly and also funny. [IMG]http://d.readmanga.ru/uploads/pics/00/06/553.jpg[/IMG] :v:
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41657225]dragon ball is mocked at japan, fist of the north star style is used as way to make everything look super manly and also funny. [IMG]http://d.readmanga.ru/uploads/pics/00/06/553.jpg[/IMG] :v:[/QUOTE] Congratulations, you have discovered that parody is a thing that exists in the world. Have a biscuit. Now why isn't it alright when Dragon's Crown does it?
[QUOTE=Zeke129;41657128][i]lol ur gay[/i] stops being funny when you pass the age of 10[/QUOTE] good thing I have people to tell me what I should and should not laugh at
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;41657230]Congratulations, you have discovered that parody is a thing that exists in the world. Have a biscuit. Now why isn't it alright when Dragon's Crown does it?[/QUOTE] the parody is ABOUT north star, not done by north star artist, the equivalent would be to have someone make art mocking dragon's crown artist. [url]http://eschergirls.tumblr.com/post/50005631043/psdo-sexism-is-over-parody-redraws-of-the[/url] like this
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41657239]the parody is ABOUT north star, not done by north star artist, the equivalent would be to have someone make art mocking dragon's crown artist.[/QUOTE] I'm saying that Dragon's Crown [I]is[/I] parody.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;41657249]I'm saying that Dragon's Crown [I]is[/I] parody.[/QUOTE] people disagree, see link.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41657153]the only reason the industry isn't buff dudes 24/7 is because japan goes against that current, because they find it ridiculous at all times.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]because they find it ridiculous at all times.[/QUOTE] I think you don't know anything about japanese culture, pop culture, or video games if this is an actual opinion you hold.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41657252]people disagree, see link.[/QUOTE] People disagree with them. So what?
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41657252]people disagree, see link.[/QUOTE] so the people who disagree are right? just because people have various opinions doesn't make flashing to them an excuse to not back up your own arguments.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;41657268]so the people who disagree are right? just because people have various opinions doesn't make flashing to them an excuse to not back up your own arguments.[/QUOTE] show me, where they're wrong [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;41657262]I think you don't know anything about japanese culture, pop culture, or video games if this is an actual opinion you hold.[/QUOTE] i meant they consider the western tendency to glorify being buff as manly to be ridiciulous, not that they won't use buff dudes at all.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41657153] the only reason the industry isn't buff dudes 24/7 is because japan goes against that current, because they find it ridiculous at all times.[/QUOTE] uh no they don't
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;41657276]show me, where they're wrong i meant they consider the western tendency to glorify being buff as manly to be ridiciulous, not that they won't use buff dudes at all.[/QUOTE] "show you where they're wrong"? On a subjective discussion? Then why didn't you say that because what you say there and what you said there are vastly different statements.
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