• Zach Avery, 4, Is Among Youngest In Britain To Be Diagnosed With Gender Identity Disorder (GID)
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[quote=Huffington Post] Source: Caters A little boy who decided he was a girl trapped in a boy's body has become one of the youngest-ever children to have his decision backed by the NHS - aged just four. With his blonde pigtails and purple tutu, Zach Avery, now five, has been living as a girl for more than a year. Little Zach was just three when he began refusing to live as a boy, instead choosing to wear pink dresses and ribbons in his long, blonde hair - because he has Gender Identity Disorder (GID). Mum Theresa Avery, 32, said her son used to be a "normal" little boy who loved Thomas the Tank Engine, but suddenly at the end of 2010, he decided he wanted to live as a girl. He became obsessed with the children's TV character Dora the Explorer and started dressing in female clothing. Theresa and Zach's father Darren, 41, became worried by their son's behaviour and took him to the doctor. He was officially diagnosed with GID by NHS specialists at the Tavistock and Patman Foundation Trust in London, making Zach one of the youngest affected children in the UK. Mum-of-four Theresa said: "He just turned round to me one day when he was three and said: 'Mummy, I'm a girl'. I assumed he was just going through a phase and just left it at that. "But then it got serious and he would become upset if anyone referred to him as a boy. "He used to cry and try to cut off his willy out of frustration." Specialists explained to Theresa and Darren that gender identity disorder is a conflict between a person's actual physical gender and the gender that person identifies himself or herself as. Theresa said: "They told us that although he had a male body, his brain was telling him he was a girl." And Zach's school - Purfleet Primary in Essex - has even turned their toilet block gender-neutral to support him. Theresa added: "They have changed the toilets for Key Stage 1 pupils into Unisex instead of male/female and they address him as a girl, which is what he wants. "When he gets a bit older, to Key Stage 2, then obviously the law changes and there will be more difficulties surrounding the bathroom issue, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it - it may be that Zach will use the staff toilets. "We explained to the other kids at the school that Zachy's body was that of a boy but in his brain he was a girl. We said Zach was just happier being a girl than a boy. "But the other kids haven't batted an eyelid, they've accepted Zach as Zach and there's been no problems at the school with bullying. "The school has been brilliant and really, really supportive." When he goes to school, Zach, known affectionately as Zachy, wears a girl's trouser uniform and black boots with pink trim, which his mother said is female but still neutral. And mum said that although she misses her little boy, the family is very supportive of Zachy. She said: "He just wants to be like a little girl and he's very happy with his long blonde hair, pink and red bedroom and a wardrobe full of girls clothes. "He likes playing with his sister's old toys but he still loves Dr Who too and playing with his brother. And we still put some neutral clothes in his wardrobe if he ever decides he wants to wear them. "We leave it up to him to decide what he wants to do - if he changes his mind and wants to be a boy again then he does, but if he doesn't, he doesn't. She admitted: "I would love to have my son back, but I want him to be happy. If this is the route he wants to take - if this is what makes him happy - then so be it. I would rather him have my full support. "People need to be aware of this condition because it's very common but even many family support workers have never heard of cases in children. There are people out there but they don't want to talk about it." Figures from the Tavistock and Patman Foundation Trust clinic - the national body for GID - revealed 165 children have been diagnosed with GID this year. A spokesperson at Tavistock Clinic in London said they were unable to comment on individual case, but only seven children under the age of 5 were diagnosed last year - making Zach one of the youngest. The spokesperson said: "Tavistock Clinic had 97 referrals in 2009/2010; 139 in 2010/2011 and thus far this year 165 referrals. "The trend in referrals has been up over the years - this may reflect greater awareness. "We see children and young people up to the age of 18, from across the UK, who are experiencing difficulties in the development of their gender identity. "This includes children who are unhappy with their biological sex. Some may be boys who prefer activities and role associated with the opposite sex, some may also identify as the opposite sex and vice versa for girls. "In general when younger children are referred it is in relation to cross gender preferences in play, play mates and activities. It is more unusual for children of this age to express cross gender identification - that is the wish or belief that they belong to the opposite sex. "The diagnosis of GID is made by the key workers working with the young person. We will also assess their general wellbeing. We remain in contact with young people often for many years. "Our aim is not to predict or direct the outcome, but rather to support the young person in their general development as well as develop a trusting collaborative therapeutic relationship in which it is possible to openly explore their feelings about their gender." [/quote] Source: [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/02/20/zach-avery-4-is-youngest-in-britain-to-be-diagnosed-with-gender-identity-disorder-gid_n_1288531.html?ref=uk[/url]
Alright, let me rephrase that: Maybe it's too early to just go all in on it. But hey, as long as it makes him happy and that he won't ever regret it, then good for him. Or her.
[QUOTE=Zyx;34791862]Because at the age of 4 you are mature enough to make such a big decision in your life.[/QUOTE]Because your maturity defines your genes right?
[QUOTE=Zyx;34791862]Because at the age of 4 you are mature enough to make such a big decision in your life.[/QUOTE] [quote]Mum-of-four Theresa said: "He just turned round to me one day when he was three and said: 'Mummy, I'm a girl'. I assumed he was just going through a phase and just left it at that. "But then it got serious and he would become upset if anyone referred to him as a boy. "He used to cry and try to cut off his willy out of frustration."[/quote]
And? I used to dress as a girl and did shit with my dick at that age. I'm perfectly normal now ofc
Hey cool she's being treated at the tavistock clinic, I just got referred there. I kinda wish people would actually stop posting these threads, to be honest, I don't think any new ground is going to be broken in this thread as opposed to the other 50 transgender threads that just dissolved into arguments.
People still use the word "willy"?
hes as much a girl as ross' son when wanted a barbie doll instead of a gi joe toy.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34791870]Because your maturity defines your genes right?[/QUOTE] Since when could they diagnose this shit genetically?
[QUOTE=TheJoker;34791980]People still use the word "willy"?[/QUOTE] Cock and Dick are scary Penis is too adult for the children
[QUOTE=farmatyr;34791999]Since when could they diagnose this shit genetically?[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure this kind of thing is caused by a male structured brain being changed into a female one for whatever reason, and the hormones and such are all imbalanced by that. Or something similar. The point is, it is a totally natural thing.
i remember when i was 4 and thought i was a frog.
[QUOTE=TheJoey;34792081]i remember when i was 4 and thought i was a frog.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/customavatars/thumbs/avatar263017_1.gif[/IMG] Also, I thought I was [I]"sky-clouds."[/I]
my brother wanted to grow up to be a rainbow
[QUOTE=Metanar;34791967]Hey cool she's being treated at the tavistock clinic, I just got referred there. I kinda wish people would actually stop posting these threads, to be honest, I don't think any new ground is going to be broken in this thread as opposed to the other 50 transgender threads that just dissolved into arguments.[/QUOTE] I did it more because it was news, that had intrested me, then anything else.
I really wish it could be referred to as something other than a disorder. Doesn't exactly help convey the best idea with people saying "You've got a disorder." all the time.
[QUOTE=Cone;34792050]I'm pretty sure this kind of thing is caused by a male structured brain being changed into a female one for whatever reason, and the hormones and such are all imbalanced by that. Or something similar. The point is, it is a totally natural thing.[/QUOTE] How can you call it natural when the body is doing something it's not supposed to?
Because it is a natural occurring condition. Its not that the body is doing something it shouldn't, just that its doing something uncommon.
I miss good old fashion 1950's "It's just a phase." mentality. [b]EDIT[/b] It's a Joke.
[QUOTE=farmatyr;34792287]How can you call it natural when the body is doing something it's not supposed to?[/QUOTE] As Zedacon said, it's less "unnatrual" and more "unusual". And there's nothing in the slightest wrong with being different - only with people that [I]treat[/I] you different.
[QUOTE=farmatyr;34792287]How can you call it natural when the body is doing something it's not supposed to?[/QUOTE] I don't think that you're thinking of the right use of the word 'natural'. Being born blind isn't supposed to happen, but it is [I]natural[/I]. Same with being a child genius / savant, or being gay.
Mother shouldn't have let him watch Dora the explorer at such an impressionable age. Unless there is physical evidence that it is in his genes, it's most likely his environment at the young age of 4 that leads him to believe false things.
[QUOTE=DarkSpider;34792421]Mother shouldn't have let him watch Dora the explorer at such an impressionable age. Unless there is physical evidence that it is in his genes, it's most likely his environment at the young age of 4 that leads him to believe false things.[/QUOTE]This isn't true at all. An incredibly overwhelming majority of transgender persons become aware of their gender identity between the ages of 4 and 7.
[QUOTE=Cone;34792050]I'm pretty sure this kind of thing is caused by a male structured brain being changed into a female one for whatever reason, and the hormones and such are all imbalanced by that. Or something similar. The point is, it is a totally natural thing.[/QUOTE] there is no such thing as a male structured brain prior to socialization, and even then, it's a pretty poor concept as otherwise all males would be roughly similar, as would all females in terms of behaviour
I have GID. However I also have DID (Disassociative Identity Disorder) so the NHS won't back me for treatment. Fucking sucks. :smith:
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;34792464]This isn't true at all. An incredibly overwhelming majority of transgender persons become aware of their gender identity between the ages of 4 and 7.[/QUOTE] God I feel for them. Knowing you can never have a kid and be happy with your life would make me kill myself. I don't think we have working sex changes yet do we? Or can they still be happy as a "girl" with a penis, just with a rewired brain structure from the hormones. Also, I blame the synthetic proteins that they are now putting in our food. Fuck you monsanto corp!
And I certainly don't think that gender is this static kind of monolithic structure that never ever changes I do understand the value of rhetoric surrounding that though, because otherwise idiots would think that emerging a gender is like a picking a pair of jeans, or that it can and should be cured I think that the medicalization of gender discourse has had pretty significant effects on trans* people and how they discover to convey their understanding of their gender (and obviously the resultant procedures)
[quote]Mum Theresa Avery, 32, said her son used to be a "normal" little boy who loved Thomas the Tank Engine, but suddenly at the end of 2010, he decided he wanted to live as a girl.[/quote] poor child the Thomas years were some of the best of my life
[QUOTE=DarkSpider;34792542]God I feel for them. Knowing you can never have a kid and be happy with your life would make me kill myself.[/QUOTE] wait, what? there's no such thing as adoption, or being happy with who you are no matter how many people believe you are not "the norm"? are you, like, an 80 year old republican? also this kid's missing out. thomas the tank engine is off the fucking railz
[QUOTE=DarkSpider;34792542]God I feel for them. Knowing you can never have a kid and be happy with your life would make me kill myself. I don't think we have working sex changes yet do we? Or can they still be happy as a "girl" with a penis, just with a rewired brain structure from the hormones. Also, I blame the synthetic proteins that they are now putting in our food. Fuck you monsanto corp![/QUOTE] What the hell do synthetic proteins have to do with anything?
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