• Hamas anniversary parade sees militants display rockets and heavy weapons as they vow to destroy Isr
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[QUOTE]Around 2,000 armed Hamas militants have paraded through the streets of Gaza, as the group vowed to destroy “this illusion called Israel” on the 27th anniversary of its founding. It was the group’s largest show of force since the end of a 50-day war between it and Israel in the summer, and included the display of rockets and other heavy weaponry. Referring to the movement's armed wing, he said: “This illusion called Israel will be removed. It will be removed at the hands of the Qassam Brigades.” "Palestine is ours from the river to the sea and from the south to the north. There will be no concession on an inch of the land," he told the crowds, saying he wanted the Palestinians to have all the territory that makes up modern-day Israel. [URL="http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9924330.ece/alternates/w620/hamas-parade-2.jpg"][IMG]http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9924330.ece/alternates/w620/hamas-parade-2.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL="http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9924343.ece/alternates/w460/Hamas1-Rex.jpg"][IMG]http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9924343.ece/alternates/w460/Hamas1-Rex.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL="http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9924331.ece/alternates/w460/hamas-parade.jpg"][IMG]http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9924331.ece/alternates/w460/hamas-parade.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israelpalestine-conflict-hamas-anniversary-parade-sees-militants-display-rockets-and-heavy-weapons-as-they-vow-to-destroy-israel-9924334.html"]source[/URL] [URL="http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/hundreds-of-thousands-mark-hamas-25th-anniversary-in-gaza-rally-1.483441"]source #2[/URL] Such great peace attempts.
stand down israel
Ech, should have carpet bombed all the parade. Would have been a much better parade.
It's like they went to the Bond villain school of military planning.
Got some lovely thread music, catchy stuff. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyRhn0qqQsY[/media]
Good luck with that. Surprised IDF didn't send a few shells as a response to this "peace".
[QUOTE=Crhem van der B;46712679]Ech, should have carpet bombed all the parade. Would have been a much better parade.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE][IMG]http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9924343.ece/alternates/w460/Hamas1-Rex.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] "sorry kiddo you should have tried bein' born in america"
zionists are just as bad if not worse than hamas considering the amount of Palestinians displaced by the IDF destroying homes all over the place, I don't blame them for wanting to destroy Israel.
27 years of hamas! hip-hip, allah! *fires rocket* hip-hip, allah! *fires rocket* hip-hip, allah! *fires rocket*
What, no naked christmas calendar?
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;46713028]What, no naked christmas calendar?[/QUOTE] You mean exposed ankle calendar.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46712912]zionists are just as bad if not worse than hamas considering the amount of Palestinians displaced by the IDF destroying homes all over the place, I don't blame them for wanting to destroy Israel.[/QUOTE] Considering Palestine doesn't have an actual government that can stop the IDF, it's really no wonder the settlers are doing what they're doing. The most dialog in recent history was the "hey please stop blowing us the fuck up" phase of hamas's "grand plan" on how to stop Israel.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46712912]zionists are just as bad if not worse than hamas considering the amount of Palestinians displaced by the IDF destroying homes all over the place, I don't blame them for wanting to destroy Israel.[/QUOTE] God damn it this again. [I]Hamas doesn't give a shit about Palestine, read a fucking book.[/I]
[QUOTE=ImperialGuard;46713247]God damn it this again. [I]Hamas doesn't give a shit about Palestine, read a fucking book.[/I][/QUOTE] In what book would that be in? I suppose that makes it okay for the IDF to bomb civilians and infrastructure, gotta get those dern hamasses [img]http://i.imgur.com/bUQr3Ve.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46712912]zionists are just as bad if not worse than hamas considering the amount of Palestinians displaced by the IDF destroying homes all over the place, I don't blame them for wanting to destroy Israel.[/QUOTE] You are literally as bad as those people who try to compare Stalin and Hitler. But when you consider that, by definition Zionism is just 'believing in the Jewish state of Israel', whereas Hamas is an actual terrorist organisation, maybe you should have said something other than... what you just said.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46713273]In what book would that be in? I suppose that makes it okay for the IDF to bomb civilians and infrastructure, gotta get those dern hamasses [img]http://i.imgur.com/bUQr3Ve.png[/img][/QUOTE] The Gaza Strip and West Bank are some of the most densely populated areas on the world. You couldn't sneeze there without hitting someone else, why would a bomb be any different? Does it suck that civilians get bombed? Yes. But considering the population density it's to be expected that some civilians are going to be killed. Plus it's pretty easy for hamas to say "oh these were civilians" when they were in reality militants. It's pretty well documented that Hamas will regulate as much info going out of the Gaza Strip as possible.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46713284]You are literally as bad as those people who try to compare Stalin and Hitler. But when you consider that, by definition Zionism is just 'believing in the Jewish state of Israel', whereas Hamas is an actual terrorist organisation, maybe you should have said something other than... what you just said.[/QUOTE] Yes exactly, Zionism is supporting the Jewish STATE powers of Israel, which may as well be a terrorist organization. It's a sick nationalistic attitude that dehumanizes Palestinians in the minds of the IDF [img]http://i.imgur.com/dBgt0q8.png[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/PMOSfP8.jpg[/img] even real Jews agree. [editline]14th December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=ilikecorn;46713317]The Gaza Strip and West Bank are some of the most densely populated areas on the world. You couldn't sneeze there without hitting someone else, why would a bomb be any different? [/QUOTE] [sp]maybe don't bomb, then[/sp] Peace will never be obtained through violence
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46713323]Yes exactly, Zionism is supporting the Jewish STATE powers of Israel, which may as well be a terrorist organization. It's a sick nationalistic attitude that dehumanizes Palestinians in the minds of the IDF [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/dBgt0q8.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/PMOSfP8.jpg[/IMG] even real Jews agree. [editline]14th December 2014[/editline] [sp]maybe don't bomb, then[/sp] Peace will never be obtained through violence[/QUOTE] Maybe Hamas should stop the rocket attacks then? Israel holds all the cards, you don't get to walk up to someone who's got an obvious advantage over you and start making demands, especially on an international scale. If Palestine wants to actually be treated like a state then they should ACT like a state, start fucking policing their people, start arresting those who are smuggling explosives into the strip, start arresting those who are building the rockets. Otherwise the situation will continue, and Israel will keep sitting and minding it's own business till some dickhead launches a rocket barrage into Israel, and then they'll get their shit wrecked again, and again, and again, until the strip is depopulated or until the Palestinian people realize that "hey, these rocket attacks aren't working, we should probably try something else". Peace has been obtained through violence since the dawn of time. It's just a matter of does Palestine want to be around for the peace or not.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46713356] Peace has been obtained through violence since the dawn of time.[/QUOTE] oh, when has there been peace then? There has never been lasting peace anywhere in the world, even the great USA has to find some war to be in at all times
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46713323]Yes exactly, Zionism is supporting the Jewish STATE powers of Israel, which may as well be a terrorist organization. It's a sick nationalistic attitude that dehumanizes Palestinians in the minds of the IDF [img]http://i.imgur.com/dBgt0q8.png[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/PMOSfP8.jpg[/img] even real Jews agree. [editline]14th December 2014[/editline] [sp]maybe don't bomb, then[/sp] Peace will never be obtained through violence[/QUOTE] I don't post in these kinds of threads much, but just to let you know: I'm pro-Palestine. I wholly support the Palestinian people. That doesn't mean I don't think Hamas are terrorists. I think the IDF has done shitty things and the Israeli government is pretty disgusting. But life isn't black-and-white, and this is one of the least black-and-white issues in the world right now. There is no easy solution other than 'just get along', which is currently infeasible. I understand that you don't like Israel- that's one thing. But you have to understand that this issue is very complex and has hundreds of years of history behind it, and can't just be solved by choosing one or the other. [editline]14th December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=ilikecorn;46713356]Peace has been obtained through violence since the dawn of time.[/QUOTE] Have to disagree with you here, though. The EU has been the best thing for European peace... well, ever.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46713386]oh, when has there been peace then? There has never been lasting peace anywhere in the world, even the great USA has to find some war to be in at all times[/QUOTE] You're never going to have world peace. If the Palastinians want peace with Israel, then they have to give Israel a reason to trust them again. The blockade wouldn't exist, the bombing campaigns wouldn't happen, the armed actions would stop; and all they have to do is stop allowing rocket attacks, and actually open dialog with Israel. Israel isn't going to just magically say "oh well, you're sorry, and that's all that counts, now let's lift that blockade". They hold every card in the hand, they don't have to give up a damn thing, they don't have to give a flying fuck about Palestine or its residents. Palestine has to show Israel that they can indeed act like a state, so that they can be treated like a state.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46713356] If Palestine wants to actually be treated like a state then they should ACT like a state, start fucking policing their people, start arresting those who are smuggling explosives into the strip, start arresting those who are building the rockets. [/QUOTE] Did you turn into a reasonable person because you were constantly beaten and told to start acting like a person? Or because you were treated like a human being? I'm sure the same applies on a larger scale. Maybe people wouldn't be so inclined to join Hamas if it wasn't the only visible way to fight against a state slaughtering their children and demolishing their homes. There will be world peace when man kind grows up, but I promise you world peace will NEVER be obtained through conquest
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46713692]Did you turn into a reasonable person because you were constantly beaten and told to start acting like a person? Or because you were treated like a human being? I'm sure the same applies on a larger scale. Maybe people wouldn't be so inclined to join Hamas if it wasn't the only visible way to fight against a state slaughtering their children and demolishing their homes. There will be world peace when man kind grows up, but I promise you world peace will NEVER be obtained through conquest[/QUOTE] Hamas hasn't earned any trust all though. Why would you try to cozy up to the same people who are screaming "death to israel"
[IMG]https://38.media.tumblr.com/288f111d3e903ee2addfecdfd07310bb/tumblr_nbrf47kdRT1shqsi7o1_1280.jpg[/IMG] Here's another picture.
Once again I must reiterate Hamas =/= all of the Palestinian authority I'm not defending them, but remember that Fatah exists too, even if Abbas is a bit crazy.
[QUOTE=RockmanYoshi;46713820]Once again I must reiterate Hamas =/= all of the Palestinian authority I'm not defending them, but remember that Fatah exists too, even if Abbas is a bit crazy.[/QUOTE] The Fatah is so corrupt they can't see the people for all of the money they're embezzling.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46713323] [img]http://i.imgur.com/PMOSfP8.jpg[/img] even real Jews agree.[/QUOTE] Just saying, those "real Jews" still want the land eventually. They are Satmars which believe that the current state of Israel is not Jewish because it is secular. The Satmars believe that when the Messiah comes, he will refound the "real" kingdom of Israel. This is like pointing to some Muslims who hate the current Saudi regime and want it replaced with a Caliphate and saying they are "real muslims".
Maybe these guys need a common enemy, no i'm serious, the only way that Israel and Hamas will quit trying to kill each other is that they have a common enemy.
[QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;46714632]Maybe these guys need a common enemy, no i'm serious, the only way that Israel and Hamas will quit trying to kill each other is that they have a common enemy.[/QUOTE] Honestly if there's an enemy that is so huge of a threat that Israel and Hamas are working together, there's already a coalition of nations against them. No entity could become that large of a threat without the US immediately bombing them off the face of the earth, with the requisite EU friends being drug along behind us.
[QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;46714632]Maybe these guys need a common enemy, no i'm serious, the only way that Israel and Hamas will quit trying to kill each other is that they have a common enemy.[/QUOTE] not too sure-- Hamas's reasons do largely involve religion, so I'm not sure that they'd be willing to form any kind of truce
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