• Congress pushes back on healthier school lunches
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[QUOTE=Hidole555;33287391][IMG]http://mrsmcase.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/school-lunch.jpg[/IMG] This is what my school lunch would typically look like, except the orange is a small cup of applesauce and the hunk of bread is a single slice, and even then if you happen to get that much spaghetti and pasta, you're lucky.[/QUOTE] Ho-wow man. We got burritos as big as your bicep here at my school..and hotdogs the size of your hand. [img]http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-toot.gif[/img] Also..page king...yaaay.. im not as big as a failure as i thought I was...maybe now people will love me..
[QUOTE=Lazor;33289259]classes start at 7:10 for us, and if you ride the bus you almost have to get up earlier than 6 AM. I have to get up at 5:30 AM every morning. it's nuts down here in the USA. My mother told me there was once a vote to change the times to be more reasonable in Georgia, but most people opposed because high schoolers baby sit and have jobs.[/QUOTE] Who is the piece of shit asshole who thought that 7:10 was a reasonable starting time [editline]16th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;33310701]The spending bill also would allow tomato paste on pizzas to be counted as a vegetable. Congress agreed on one thing this session. That tomatoes are in fact vegetables and not fruits.[/QUOTE] who is the piece of shit asshole who did this too why are so many piece of shit assholes in charge of the education system in the us or is it all one guy
My high school was pretty great with food. It had a cooking program so you could work in a kitchen and make food for the other students.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;33311043]My high school was pretty great with food. It had a cooking program so you could work in a kitchen and make food for the other students.[/QUOTE] This is what my school does. I work in the cafeteria for lunch time every forth week. Its amazing reading what all these other students are stuck eating because at my school all the food comes fresh from the nearest grocery store. The stuff we serve is mostly healthy (We bake cookies/muffins before lunch).
I don't know, school lunch was a pretty big fucking deal for poor assholes like me. On the days we had pork rib sandwiches, burgers, delicious cheapo ice cream bars or mozzarella sticks prison rules applied. I remember I almost stabbed a motherfucker for attempting to steal my pork rib with my fork. This dirty, skinny kid who looked like Dane Cook but with more meth was the culprit. One day I remember we had pizza AND pork rib sandwiches, and fucking hell it was crazy. One of my friends discovered that somebody stole his sandwich and he went over to that kid's backpack, poured corn and fucking applesauce inside of it and kicked it across the lunch room in retribution. Once highschool came around, it was a bit more sane but elementary school and middle school were hard times. I'm just wondering how many kids out there actually look forward to food that most people think is total shit. Now I would pass on some of that (except the mozzarella sticks and pork rib, and I would still shank a bitch for them) but back then it was really the highlight of my goddamn day. Come to think of it, obesity wasn't rampant when I was in school. Sure, there were fat kids, but a good deal of them had fat families too. I'm going to stick by my original theory that kids are lazy and retarded these days, and their lack of activity greatly contributes to their xbox hueg fat rolls.
I live in a country where school lunches are what you buy at the shops before or get your parents to make because virtually everyone gets fed adequately [editline]17th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Lazor;33289259]classes start at 7:10 for us, and if you ride the bus you almost have to get up earlier than 6 AM. I have to get up at 5:30 AM every morning. it's nuts down here in the USA. My mother told me there was once a vote to change the times to be more reasonable in Georgia, but most people opposed because high schoolers baby sit and have jobs.[/QUOTE] wow that's a violation of human rights I see why people view Australians as lazy back in the final years of high school it was 10am-4pm, four days a week
We don't get any school meals, all the kids head down the street to the gas station and buy shushies and such. So many kids, that the gas station now actually has a "bouncer" at the door :v:
[QUOTE=Contag;33311925]I live in a country where school lunches are what you buy at the shops before or get your parents to make because virtually everyone gets fed adequately [editline]17th November 2011[/editline] wow that's a violation of human rights I see why people view Australians as lazy back in the final years of high school it was 10am-4pm, four days a week[/QUOTE] for some reason being sleep deprived is a badge of honor here like good for you working until 2 in the morning(how the fuck is this even legal for someone in high school) you may as well smoke a pack of cigarettes and eat a couple cakes a day for all the good you're doing yourself [editline]17th November 2011[/editline] [quote] I'm going to stick by my original theory that kids are lazy and retarded these days, and their lack of activity greatly contributes to their xbox hueg fat rolls[/quote] i'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news but your theory is incorrect
[QUOTE=Lazor;33312095]for some reason being sleep deprived is a badge of honor here like good for you working until 2 in the morning(how the fuck is this even legal for someone in high school) you may as well smoke a pack of cigarettes and eat a couple cakes a day for all the good you're doing yourself [editline]17th November 2011[/editline] i'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news but your theory is incorrect[/QUOTE] Yep. Nothing quite like staying up playing TF2 until 2 in the morning only to get 4 hours of sleep, and [i]then[/i] having to get ready in 15 minutes. Boy, was I stupid. I really enjoy online school. Here is is, 12 AM, and I can sleep not fearing having to wake up too early.
What a waste of time and money. Increase the quality of health education. Teach students how their body functions in terms of diet and exercise. Something that refuses to get bogged down in serious biology, but is a proper class, not some 10 minute bullshit during PE. Provide the students with the information and then let them make their own decisions about their dietary choices. Are they going to make the wrong choices? Of course they are. That is what kids do. But restricting something flat out is only going to fuck them up psychologically later in life. If nothing else, understand that not everyone agrees on what constitutes a "healthy" diet. Though many would agree that just about anything the federal government has to say on the matter is wrong. Some people think that vegetarian is the way to go while other swing for a low carb stance. In both cases those diets will not be sufficiently met by branding one universal lunch. And that is just two diets.
[QUOTE=GunFox;33312178]What a waste of time and money. Increase the quality of health education. Teach students how their body functions in terms of diet and exercise. Something that refuses to get bogged down in serious biology, but is a proper class, not some 10 minute bullshit during PE. Provide the students with the information and then let them make their own decisions about their dietary choices. Are they going to make the wrong choices? Of course they are. That is what kids do. But restricting something flat out is only going to fuck them up psychologically later in life. If nothing else, understand that not everyone agrees on what constitutes a "healthy" diet. Though many would agree that just about anything the federal government has to say on the matter is wrong. Some people think that vegetarian is the way to go while other swing for a low carb stance. In both cases those diets will not be sufficiently met by branding one universal lunch. And that is just two diets.[/QUOTE] equipping students with the knowledge to make healthy choices does jack shit when the school doesn't provide healthy choices [editline]17th November 2011[/editline] [quote]Though many would agree that just about anything the federal government has to say on the matter is wrong.[/quote] actually no not really for one thing, the government is opposing itself on this issue(dumb fuck congressman with no expertise vs. the people in the government that actually study this shit) so i guess nothing is correct then????
[QUOTE=Swilly;33292888]Its socially abnormal by highschool to bring your own lunch. And at public schools, the worst thing to be is the person everyone makes fun of.[/QUOTE] Jesus Christ, what the fuck school did you go to?
[QUOTE=Lazor;33312191]equipping students with the knowledge to make healthy choices does jack shit when the school doesn't provide healthy choices[/QUOTE] Except nobody agrees on the concept of "healthy". The truth of the matter is that pizza is just cheese and pizza sauce on bread. It keeps well, has a low chance of causing food poisoning, is easily cooked, is reasonably cheap, and provides a sufficient amount of calories. That last one is the kicker. Calories. We have been trained to believe that higher calorie foods are inherently bad, but if you are actually sitting in class all day actively using your brain, you are burning a fair amount of calories. A balanced diet is expensive, difficult to prepare, requires multiple sources, complex cooking procedures, not universally agreed upon in terms of content or necessity, and above all else kids won't eat it. The vast majority of it is just going to get thrown away. And then what have we accomplished? Now the kids AREN'T getting enough energy AND we are wasting food in ridiculous quantities.
Down here, the main course is grease. You don't get anything better.
some people can't agree on the perfect healthy diet i guess we should do nothing then! gunfox master problem solver of the year 2011
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;33310701]The spending bill also would allow tomato paste on pizzas to be counted as a vegetable. Congress agreed on one thing this session. That tomatoes are in fact vegetables and not fruits.[/QUOTE] Vegetable isn't a technical term. Fruit can be a technical term. But if you use it as such then Wheat, Corn, and Tomatoes fall under the category of "fruit". [editline]17th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Lazor;33312265]some people can't agree on the perfect healthy diet i guess we should do nothing then! gunfox master problem solver of the year 2011[/QUOTE] No action, in this case, is much better than the wrong action. I would gladly see a wider variety of higher quality foods stocked at schools, but figuring out how to do so at a reasonable cost, with decent quality, and with minimal waste is a major issue.
[QUOTE=Mr. Bleak;33312126]Yep. Nothing quite like staying up playing TF2 until 2 in the morning only to get 4 hours of sleep, and [i]then[/i] having to get ready in 15 minutes. Boy, was I stupid. I really enjoy online school. Here is is, 12 AM, and I can sleep not fearing having to wake up too early.[/QUOTE] I've been out of school for years and I still wake up in panic on occasion before realising I'm not late for school.
[img]http://i15.tinypic.com/6as6kxw.gif[/img] It's been a long time. More seriously, I can't believe people can be so fucking stupid and individualist. I mean SERIOUSLY, kids are your damn future and the one of the entire planet, can't you at least do ONE effort ? If we keep going that way our future will be made of uneducated fat kids with cancer and little to no reading comprehension skills
What the fuck are you all saying Pizza is awesome.
[QUOTE=lapsus_;33313256]What the fuck are you all saying Pizza is awesome.[/QUOTE] Not when it's a piece of cardboard slathered with processed shit. And make the entire thing burnt too. Disgusting.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;33310839]Who is the piece of shit asshole who thought that 7:10 was a reasonable starting time [editline]16th November 2011[/editline] who is the piece of shit asshole who did this too why are so many piece of shit assholes in charge of the education system in the us or is it all one guy[/QUOTE] Just go to bed earlier. Ta-daaaa. Also, Damn, I have to stick with eating 90% grease?
Finnish school meals are free and you can take as much as you want. There's always a hot main, salad and bread.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;33310701]The spending bill also would allow tomato paste on pizzas to be counted as a vegetable. Congress agreed on one thing this session. That tomatoes are in fact vegetables and not fruits.[/QUOTE] My high school biology teacher disagrees.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;33310839]Who is the piece of shit asshole who thought that 7:10 was a reasonable starting time [editline]16th November 2011[/editline] who is the piece of shit asshole who did this too why are so many piece of shit assholes in charge of the education system in the us or is it all one guy[/QUOTE] Nope, multiple people. We start at 7:20. We don't even get veggies. We get a main course (crappy burger or pizza), a small milk, and a fruit that's probably 12 hours away from spoiling. [editline]17th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=thelurker1234;33314557]Just go to bed earlier. Ta-daaaa.[/QUOTE] Our school tells our teachers we're meant to have an hour of homework in each class. They tell us we're supposed to study an hour for each class everyday as well. I'm supposed to have eight to twelve hours of work to do and you expect me to go to sleep early?
I remember in middle school we used to take the sausage patties we got for lunch and throw them around the cafeteria because they'd bounce a good six feet. I still wonder what they were made out of. [QUOTE=Lazor;33312095]for some reason being sleep deprived is a badge of honor here like good for you working until 2 in the morning(how the fuck is this even legal for someone in high school) you may as well smoke a pack of cigarettes and eat a couple cakes a day for all the good you're doing yourself[/QUOTE] The college I go to is infamous for having such large projects due in short amounts of time and so students "don't sleep until after graduation." Which is of course bullshit. 90% of the time people go four days without sleep because they got the assignment two weeks ago and didn't start working on it until four days before it was due. When I started going here all the orientation assistants basically told us that they had no lives, all their time was spent in their major's buildings, they never slept etc. etc. They actually hype up being a shitty student, and A LOT of people wear it like a badge of honor. "Yeah I haven't bathed in a week and I'm going on three days without sleep now." This is not a person I would hire for my company because they clearly A. have a terrible sense of priorities, and B. have a terrible sense of time management. Yet the main purpose of going here is to prep students for intense project driven work, and they can't even juggle bathing regularly. I can't think of anywhere else that congratulates people on being completely inefficient.
I'm all for requiring schools to serve healthy foodstuffs, but I don't think banning the sale of "junk food" in schools is a necessary requirement of that. From personal experience, my high school did a pretty decent job of giving students a selection of food. There was the "Entree" line, where you could go get some decent meat, with a side of vegetables and potatoes and whatnot; a "Salad and Sandwich" line, where you could get exactly what the name implies; a "Cultural" food line, where they'd serve up rice and tacos and stuff like that; and the "Fast Line," where you could load up on pizza (real pizza, too, from Pizza Hut, or Dominoes, or whatever), pretzels, chips, soda, and whatever else you wanted. Most students made surprisingly responsible decisions in regards to their meal choices. The healthy stuff was a bit less expensive than the less healthy stuff, so if students wanted to treat themselves to a pizza slice they'd have to buck up a bit more. That system incentivized healthy dietary choices, but didn't treat the students as if they were totally incapable of not shoving their face full of crap if given the opportunity.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;33315398]I'm all for requiring schools to serve healthy foodstuffs, but I don't think banning the sale of "junk food" in schools is a necessary requirement of that. From personal experience, my high school did a pretty decent job of giving students a selection of food. There was the "Entree" line, where you could go get some decent meat, with a side of vegetables and potatoes and whatnot; a "Salad and Sandwich" line, where you could get exactly what the name implies; a "Cultural" food line, where they'd serve up rice and tacos and stuff like that; and the "Fast Line," where you could load up on pizza (real pizza, too, from Pizza Hut, or Dominoes, or whatever), pretzels, chips, soda, and whatever else you wanted. Most students made surprisingly responsible decisions in regards to their meal choices. The healthy stuff was a bit less expensive than the less healthy stuff, so if students wanted to treat themselves to a pizza slice they'd have to buck up a bit more. That system incentivized healthy dietary choices, but didn't treat the students as if they were totally incapable of not shoving their face full of crap if given the opportunity.[/QUOTE]I agree, we had a system that was a lot like that. High school allowed us to have the one line where you could get all sorts of fun stuff (like goddamn Snicker's ice cream bars :O) but only people with some pretty good money could consistently eat from there. The "salad" line was an option, but it was mostly frequented by the same people. Everyone else took the main one, especially on the magic days where something good was being served. I remember our health teacher, Mrs. Nelson, having a pretty lengthy discussion with us about calories and such. She was one of the few people (at the time) who didn't believe that whole "calories are bad" crock of shit. She was an excellent teacher because she engaged us in conversation and thought, which allowed me to flex my useless knowledge muscles. Everyone left that class thoroughly educated on MRE and survival rations.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;33314557]Just go to bed earlier. Ta-daaaa. Also, Damn, I have to stick with eating 90% grease?[/QUOTE] you don't get it teenagers [b]biologically become tired later than any other age group. it's not simply a matter of "going to bed earlier" [/b]
[QUOTE=Lazor;33317736]you don't get it teenagers [b]biologically become tired later than any other age group. it's not simply a matter of "going to bed earlier" [/b][/QUOTE] Additionally, the after-school workload is ridiculous in how much time you end up spending on it. There is no excuse for arbitrary work.
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