• Australian man who took bad Ecstasy pill, now crippled shares video which has gone viral.
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[QUOTE=latin_geek;49207367]Honest question, how can you tell if recreational drugs are legit? Even the ones you buy instead of taking from a friend at a party, are you just supposed to find a trustworthy dealer and hope he doesn't fuck up? Goes for MDMA/Ectasy/LSD/etc.[/QUOTE] i wouldn't buy Mando/pills from a street dealer ever, it's probably cut with all sorts. Only ever taken stuff I've bought from the internet.
[QUOTE=plunger435;49209561]The only way this argument would possibly work was if the MDMA made you impervious to lightning. Otherwise you're at risk for the Lightning as well as the MDMA now. Still increasing the chances something bad would happen.[/QUOTE] Compare it to anything else that's potentially dangerous, but people do because its fun then. Like diving or skiing or skydiving, sure its not essential to do it, but you do it because its fun and you're aware of the risks involved.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;49207896]I wouldnt take any drug from a stranger, really. I wouldn't even buy weed from a guy I don't know (I don't smoke weed, for that matter). My friend once bought some weed from a dude and there was some PCP in it. He didn't jump off a building or anything but he was freaking out the whole time.[/QUOTE] no one laces weed with pcp that shit is rare
Instead of using stories like this to push for drug bans they should be used to push for regulation.
Again, late to the party, but this isn't the first time bad drugs have caused serious damage. Designer drugs can lead to complications, such as the neurological study on people that took a style of designer meth that pretty much rendered them trapped in their own bodies, which lead to the discovery of various stem cell researches, including one located up our noses. I cannot find it for the life of me but I'm still looking. It's scary as fuck knowing a small difference in chemical structure can really fuck you up.
I love how you guys are totally condoning illicit drug use.
[QUOTE=cdr248;49209944]I love how you guys are totally condoning illicit drug use.[/QUOTE] What in your opinion is wrong with illicit drug use?
[QUOTE=EditOutJ;49209986]What in your opinion is wrong with illicit drug use?[/QUOTE] Are you being serious
[QUOTE=cdr248;49210187]Are you being serious[/QUOTE] Still on those age old DARE teachings I see.
[QUOTE=EditOutJ;49209986]What in your opinion is wrong with illicit drug use?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Megadave;49210190]Still on those age old DARE teachings I see.[/QUOTE] I don't see how arguing about the non-lethal aspects of drug use is relevant in this discussion at all. It doesn't matter if you can take drugs safely when you know what you're doing. The fact of the matter is people are constantly harmed by drug use and this guy just wants to show people what has happened to him. Regardless of what you do to harm yourself with drugs it happens and he wants to try and prevent other people from fucking up like he did. Is it really that weird for someone who just got possibly fucked for life to try and spread the idea of abstinence? Sounds pretty terrifying to have chronic convulsions to me. Bottom line is the fact that this kind of thing happens [I]at all[/I] is the reasoning behind spreading the idea of being drug free. Not that he fucked up and you can still do drugs without becoming brain dead accidentally.
[QUOTE=cdr248;49209944]I love how you guys are totally condoning illicit drug use.[/QUOTE] i want to print this post and hang it on the wall in a frame made of dried shit [editline]29th November 2015[/editline] "its WRONG because its ILLEGAL" imagine actually living life under the constant burden of soccer mom logic
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;49210244]i want to print this post and hang it on the wall in a frame made of dried shit [editline]29th November 2015[/editline] "its WRONG because its ILLEGAL" imagine actually living life under the constant burden of soccer mom logic[/QUOTE] It's probably more about the irony of posting pro drug rants in a thread about a guy who got crippled from drugs.
[QUOTE=Anax;49210273]It's probably more about the irony of posting pro drug rants in a thread about a guy who got crippled from drugs.[/QUOTE] Because he was irresponsible and stupid and took way more than he should have? Alcohol isn't illicit but my mate mixed buckfast and vodka once and he woke up in the hospital, it's not about legality but rather how responsible you are with it
[QUOTE=Anax;49210273]It's probably more about the irony of posting pro drug rants in a thread about a guy who got crippled from drugs.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=cdr248;49209944]I love how you guys are totally condoning illicit drug use.[/QUOTE] it doesn't sound like he's drawing attention to the irony of the situation, his wording gives the impression that he's honestly taken aback by people discussing drugs
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;49210305]it doesn't sound like he's drawing attention to the irony of the situation, his wording gives the impression that he's honestly taken aback by people discussing drugs[/QUOTE] Well it's pretty hard to draw anything from such a small post but I still think that the notion of safe/responsible drug use doesn't really matter. Clearly this guy did something wrong to have this happen because people do MDMA all the time. I'm just trying to say that it's irrelevant how this happened to him or if it's his fault at all. Perhaps the point is that it might be for the greater good to spread abstinence using this video than to rely on the drug community's ability to inform new/irresponsible users. I just don't trust the average civilian's ability to follow through with proper safety when it comes to certain drugs. The environment just doesn't suit that mindset IMO. Then again the shock/emotional response people get from the video will probably not effect anything.
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;49210305]it doesn't sound like he's drawing attention to the irony of the situation, his wording gives the impression that he's honestly taken aback by people discussing drugs[/QUOTE] It's mostly the irony I assure you. I detest shit like DARE because it's a complete joke based entirely on scare tactics, but you have to admit that there is a clear risk associated with drugs of any kind (some more than others, some less) whether they be illegal or not. I personally don't like drinking because it makes me feel like shit afterwards but other than that, I don't really have anything against drugs. If you wanna smoke weed then go ahead dude whatever. So I'd like to rephrase my post since it does make me sound overly hostile and 'illicit' probably isn't the best word to describe what kind of drugs I find are more trouble than they're worth: I find it silly when half the thread is 'Oh yeah this shit'll fuck you up if you do it wrong so here's how to reduce your chances' as opposed to 'yeah maybe you should just avoid hard/party drugs so then you just [I]can't [/I]get fucked up. I can understand you guys trying to support responsible drug use but I just find it funny how a 'abstinence thread' is turned into 'the bestest way to do drugs without suffering some horrible injustice like mixed pills'.
[QUOTE=Anax;49210397]Well it's pretty hard to draw anything from such a small post but I still think that the notion of safe/responsible drug use doesn't really matter. Clearly this guy did something wrong to have this happen because people do MDMA all the time. I'm just trying to say that it's irrelevant how this happened to him or if it's his fault at all. Perhaps the point is that it might be for the greater good to spread abstinence using this video than to rely on the drug community's ability to inform new/irresponsible users. I just don't trust the average civilian's ability to follow through with proper safety when it comes to certain drugs. The environment just doesn't suit that mindset IMO. Then again the shock/emotional response people get from the video will probably not effect anything.[/QUOTE] But what you aren't getting is that if legal, it will be the government regulating these drugs, just like hydrocodone or oxy. The government isn't your average citizen, they will make sure all the drugs are pure, not adulterated with any other drug. There will be instructions not to mix with other drugs, though at this point anyone who mixes hard drugs or alcohol is just asking for it. Point being, just because something may fuck you up permanently doesn't mean shit. Lots of other shit can fuck you up to, yet most of it is encouraged, if not only legal. I understand drugs are different in a way, but really isn't that all it is? A game of chance? Bottom line, the government needs to heavily regulate hard drugs if they are to be legal though.
[QUOTE=Anax;49210397]Well it's pretty hard to draw anything from such a small post but I still think that the notion of safe/responsible drug use doesn't really matter. Clearly this guy did something wrong to have this happen because people do MDMA all the time. I'm just trying to say that it's irrelevant how this happened to him or if it's his fault at all. Perhaps the point is that it might be for the greater good to spread abstinence using this video than to rely on the drug community's ability to inform new/irresponsible users. [B]I just don't trust the average civilian's ability to follow through with proper safety when it comes to certain drugs.[/B] The environment just doesn't suit that mindset IMO. Then again the shock/emotional response people get from the video will probably not effect anything.[/QUOTE] I'd agree with this however. As responsible as we like to think we are, we can easily mess things up or go against our mantra and possibly suffer risks because of it. In theory, teaching safe drug use should make drugs as safe and common as eating a candy bar, but even after all this time of teaching the risks associated with alcohol use, we still have tons of alcoholics and people dying of alcohol related deaths. You guys make it sound like it's backwards and stupid to encourage abstinence as opposed to safe drug use when teaching both will make the student even safer than just teaching one of those practices.
[QUOTE=cdr248;49210555]I'd agree with this however. As responsible as we like to think we are, we can easily mess things up or go against our mantra and possibly suffer risks because of it. In theory, teaching safe drug use should make drugs as safe and common as eating a candy bar, but even after all this time of teaching the risks associated with alcohol use, we still have tons of alcoholics and people dying of alcohol related deaths. You guys make it sound like it's backwards and stupid to encourage abstinence as opposed to safe drug use when teaching both with make the student even safer than just teaching one of those practices.[/QUOTE] I think both should be taught. You should be taught not to do drugs, but yet taught with the best way to do drugs. Teaching total abstinence can be dangerous in it's own because they aren't getting all the information they need to make an informed decision, because chances are abstinence is going to do shit if someone wants to try drugs badly enough. Exactly like sexual abstinence.
[QUOTE=Megadave;49210573]I think both should be taught. You should be taught not to do drugs, but yet taught with the best way to do drugs. Teaching total abstinence can be dangerous in it's own because they aren't getting all the information they need to make an informed decision, because chances are abstinence is going to do shit if someone wants to try drugs badly enough. Exactly like sexual abstinence.[/QUOTE] That's a really good point. Complete abstinence from drugs can probably lead to some major fuck ups when they actually decide to try a substance for their first time. Bad dealers, inexperienced sitters, mixing, dosage etc. At the same time I knew a shit ton of people who started doing 'hard' drugs like MDMA in their early teenage years (early as ~14) and I really wish people abstained for much more time. I don't want to say that drug safety perpetuated adolescent drug usage but I absolutely remember people at that age group talking about how/where to get those kinds of drugs and what kind of safety precautions you have to take. I was 17 when I first smoked weed and it was a very disorienting and powerful experience, I can't imagine what doing a more powerful drug at an earlier age does to your mind. Call me the afterschool special but it really depresses me that some kids think it's totally safe to do drugs like that if they are careful about it.
[QUOTE=Megadave;49210573]I think both should be taught. You should be taught not to do drugs, but yet taught with the best way to do drugs. Teaching total abstinence can be dangerous in it's own because they aren't getting all the information they need to make an informed decision, because chances are abstinence is going to do shit if someone wants to try drugs badly enough. Exactly like sexual abstinence.[/QUOTE] My feelings precisely.
[QUOTE=343N;49209360]I've never done illicit drugs in my life, and I personally wouldn't find it difficult to reject taking drugs such as ecstasy. I used to want to try maruijana but now, I just don't really care. What makes people want to take these drugs so much? (not trying to say these drugs are poison). Maybe I'm just a boring person? I mean if I went to a party I probably wouldn't find it difficult to enjoy myself.[/QUOTE] it really varies. I haven't taken MDMA before, but I've smoked weed and taken acid. not a big fan of weed, but acid is a very big favorite of mine. it flips my world upside down, makes everything seem more interesting and hilarious, makes me feel amazing, see weird shit, connect with the people I am with in a very weird way and change my view on pretty much everything. music sounds 100x times better, everything is just better, hilarious and awfully weird. I find the confusion acid provides is incredibly hilarious. I remember me and a guy tried to hold a conversation, but we constantly got sidetracked since the music sounded amazing. we started talking about it, and a cool part in the song popped up which made me forget so I just yelled "and fuck that conversation!" and we both burst out laughing since we immediately forgot what we were talking about. even outside of that, doing acid alone makes me feel like I'm on some really great party as long as there's some cool music on. don't need lights or anything, my brain does the lightshow. I think people, at least me, take drugs because they really change the way we act and think, which could be a welcome change. people drink alcohol to feel more comfortable, some drink to get fucked up, it's pretty much the same thing just with very different effects which are often a lot more stronger.
lol this guy comes from my hometown. what he doesn't tell you is that every weekend he parties and takes tens of ecstasy pills. this isn't some isolated freak accident of taking designer drugs, it's a dickhead repeatedly abusing his body and taking copious amounts of drugs fucking up his brain chemistry.
My friend took MDMA for something like 7 days straight, he's still functioning fine; he took supplements and the like. Not something I'd recommend but you'd need to do some seriously crazy shit to end up like the guy in the OP.
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