• Syrian troops massacre more than 200: rebel leader
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Syrian government troops using tanks and helicopters massacred more than 150 people in the central province of Hama, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said, while a rebel leader put the toll at more than 200. Government troops on Thursday bombarded the village using tanks and helicopters, according to the Observatory, which earlier put the death toll at more than 100. Observatory chief Rami Abdel Rahman told AFP by telephone that the bodies of 30 villagers had already been identified following the sustained attack, which brought the day's total death toll in the conflict-torn nation to over 200. Rebel leader Abu Mohamad, chief of a group based further to the north, told AFP early Friday that the attack using helicopters, tanks and multiple rocket-launchers had killed more than 200 people in the village. Abu Mohamad said he had been in phone contact with a resident of Treimsa who told him that government forces were on hills a few kilometres (miles) outside the town. The army and the Shabiha, pro-regime militia who are said to accompany troops to make sure they do not desert, started to bombard Treimsa "Thursday around 11:00 am (0800 GMT) and finished around 9:00 pm," Abu Mohamad said. But a Hama-based activist who identified himself as Abu Ghazi told AFP via Skype that regime troops started shelling the village earlier, at around 6:00 am. "That was followed by clashes with the (rebel) Free Syrian Army, but the FSA does not have a big presence in Treimsa and could not fight long," said the activist. "The number of martyrs is very high partly because the army shelled a mosque where scores of people had taken shelter, to treat the wounded and hide from the bombs," Abu Ghazi added. "But it is obvious that the regime knows no limits. The mosque was shelled, it collapsed, and that killed the people in it." The village, which had a population of 7,000, he said, "is empty now. Everyone is dead or has run away." The state-run SANA news agency said there had been clashes between the army and an armed "terrorist" group in the village but made no mention of a massacre and gave no overall death toll. "There were heavy losses among the ranks of the terrorists," said the report, adding that three government soldiers were killed. The head of the opposition Syrian National Council, Abdel Basset Sayda, voiced outrage about the latest killings and called for a tough UN resolution that allows for military intervention against the Damascus regime. "This was a massacre perpetrated by the Syrian regime," he said, speaking to Al Jazeera TV. "It is a shame for the UN Security Council and the Arab League." "What we want is a clear and straightforward resolution under Chapter VII of the UN Charter which puts all the options on the table, including the use of force. This Syrian regime only understands the language of force." Abu Ghazi said that with Idlib in the northwest, Homs in the centre and much of the countryside of Aleppo in the north "out of control, the regime is trying to keep Hama on its side." "Hama is in the centre of Syria, and is a link in a chain of provinces where anti-regime feeling is strong; the regime will do anything to keep it controlled." The Observatory said more than 17,000 people have been killed since the uprising erupted in mid-March last year. It is not possible to independently verify death tolls. The United Nations stopped compiling such figures at the end of 2011. [url]http://news.yahoo.com/sanctions-ultimatum-pressure-mounts-assad-025935665.html[/url] Jesus christ..
The Syrians honestly don't give a shit about killing innocent civilians. As long as action is not taken, they will keep doing this over and over
America is smart, we're waiting for Syria to kill itself then we can move in and get more land for Israel. Hope it doesn't take too long though...
There are incredible much videos on Liveleak of the massacres and shit that is happening on a daily basis in syria if anybody is interested in seeing how daily life looks there. 17k deaths.. jesus, my mind said it was something among 8 thousand but 17k... they use goddamn snipers to kill people and randomly shoot everything that moves.
[QUOTE=Performula;36749106]America is smart, we're waiting for Syria to kill itself then we can move in and get more land for Israel. Hope it doesn't take too long though...[/QUOTE] lol yar fuk us imperalsm
[QUOTE=Performula;36749106]America is smart, we're waiting for Syria to kill itself then we can move in and get more land for Israel. Hope it doesn't take too long though...[/QUOTE] You are a fucking asshole. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - Orkel))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Performula;36749106]America is smart, we're waiting for Syria to kill itself then we can move in and get more land for Israel. Hope it doesn't take too long though...[/QUOTE] you call waiting for civilians to be ruthlessly slaughtered for land a 'smart' thing?
[QUOTE=Performula;36749106]America is smart, we're waiting for Syria to kill itself then we can move in and get more land for Israel. Hope it doesn't take too long though...[/QUOTE] I am sorry but where did israel said it would declare war with syria for no reason?
I think the thing that most annoys me about this conflict is that i don't know who to believe. The rebels say one thing and the government say another. Except most people seem to be sided with the rebels and anything they say is "hard" facts.
Don't know if it's been posted yet but it seems to be confirmed that there's massive fighting in the area around the village, involving tanks and gunships, and the villagers are reporting the massacre to the UN observers. [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18829052[/url]
Syrian soldiers must have a fucking amazing KDR.
[QUOTE=Chernarus;36752247]Syrian soldiers must have a fucking amazing KDR.[/QUOTE] Probably around 15:1 ratio. I'm not sure if civvies count though.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;36752235]Don't know if it's been posted yet but it seems to be confirmed that there's massive fighting in the area around the village, involving tanks and gunships, and the villagers are reporting the massacre to the UN observers. [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18829052[/url][/QUOTE] "UN Observers" Seriously, the UN is doing nothing. They should have ground troops in there by now.
[QUOTE=Wealth + Taste;36753232]"UN Observers" Seriously, the UN is doing nothing. They should have ground troops in there by now.[/QUOTE] Russia is overruling military intervention by the UN.
And that's why the UN security council doesn't work.
[QUOTE=Wealth + Taste;36753232]"UN Observers" Seriously, the UN is doing nothing. They should have ground troops in there by now.[/QUOTE] The UN is not a single body, it is impossible for something to be the UN's fault
Action is needed but if action is taken you can't trust the military of Syria to do the right thing. I fear that if action is taken that another [i]Muslim Brotherhood[/i] group will take power. We'll see how that works out for Egypt in the coming years. Only can hope for the best of the people effected.
[QUOTE=Aide;36753516]Action is needed but if action is taken you can't trust the military of Syria to do the right thing. I fear that if action is taken that another [i]Muslim Brotherhood[/i] group will take power. We'll say how that works out for Egypt in the coming years.[/QUOTE] Why would you let the syrian military hold any power at all? You go in, you eviscerate the armed forces and you leave advisors to oversee a democratic election then you leave the country to it's own devices. It's either leave them to die, or give them a chance for change, it's a simple enough choice.
[QUOTE=dunkace;36750443]I think the thing that most annoys me about this conflict is that i don't know who to believe. The rebels say one thing and the government say another. Except most people seem to be sided with the rebels and anything they say is "hard" facts.[/QUOTE]The Syrian government denying massacres that have been recorded extensively and visible on Liveleaks and other such sites rather dents their credibility. One wouldn't put much stock in the word of someone who lied about fucking someone else's wife if there's an entire video of it on Redtube, for example.
I'm just waiting for the Turkey-Syria thing to get real. Syria would be so hosed.
[QUOTE=The golden;36753253]Russia is overruling military intervention by the UN.[/QUOTE] Fuck Russia. Putin needs that pinecone in his ass shoved down his throat, we need to get in there and stop this shit.
[QUOTE=Arachnidus;36754193]Fuck Russia. Putin needs that pinecone in his ass shoved down his throat, we need to get in there and stop this shit.[/QUOTE] Several countries are already working on plans to work outside of the UN, but honestly I think it's going to be far too late by the time they actually do something. As of right now, Turkey has a better chance of actually doing anything.
we r all human bengs and deservd to lived
[QUOTE=The golden;36754250]Several countries are already working on plans to work outside of the UN, but honestly I think it's going to be far too late by the time they actually do something. As of right now, Turkey has a better chance of actually doing anything.[/QUOTE] As long as they can figure out a timely, concerted effort, then there's still hope. Somebody needs to do something. The damned Russian government needs to stop pulling this shit, they're begging for another Cold War. Posturing and preventing NATO and the UN from stopping crimes against humanity. Getting some vague Chechnya vibes from this whole thing.
[QUOTE=agentalexandre;36750208]You are a fucking asshole.[/QUOTE] That all you have to contribute???????
[QUOTE=Performula;36757907]That all you have to contribute???????[/QUOTE] To be honest not much more needs to be said.
[QUOTE=Performula;36749106]America is smart, we're waiting for Syria to kill itself then we can move in and get more land for Israel. Hope it doesn't take too long though...[/QUOTE] The amount of pure stupid emanating from this post is painful. You are a terribly ignorant person.
I take everything each side says in this conflict with a massive amount of scepticism.
Jesus Christ... I wonder when this slaughter will end. Assad will hang onto power till the very last moments, so even if there is some external military intervention the death toll will be huge. Even so, I think he will be forced out of power eventually, just after enormous loss of life.
[QUOTE=Performula;36749106]America is smart, we're waiting for Syria to kill itself then we can move in and get more land for Israel. Hope it doesn't take too long though...[/QUOTE] gentlemen, i think we've finally found a human being with an IQ below that of common tree lichen, let us bask in the glow of this scientific find.
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