• Linux users permanently banned from Diablo III.... FOR USING WINE. Blizzard refusing to lift bans or
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[QUOTE=Chernarus;36601384]Wine is not a motherfucking emulator.[/QUOTE] agreed[QUOTE=Crimor;36601468]I've been up for over 24 hours and I assumed, sorry 'bout that, looking at it that way, yeah it is possible that it's a memory read thing that caused this, but you can't disagree that it's unacceptable to perma ban people for this.[/QUOTE] go to sleep ill cuddle you if its absolutely necessary
[quote=Bashiok]We’ve extensively tested for false positive situations, including replicating system setups for those who have posted claiming they were banned unfairly. We’ve not found any situations that could produce a false positive, have found that the circumstances for which they were banned were clear and accurate, and we are extremely confident in our findings. Playing the game on Linux, although not officially supported, will not get you banned – cheating will.[/quote] Take it with a grain of salt, bashiok is the todd howard of blizzard.
[QUOTE=Crimor;36601468]I've been up for over 24 hours and I assumed, sorry 'bout that, looking at it that way, yeah it is possible that it's a memory read thing that caused this, but you can't disagree that it's unacceptable to perma ban people for this.[/QUOTE] likely some update happened or some isolated glitch somewhere stuck its ugly head out. not everyone using WINE got a ban and this has happened before with Cedega, which got fixed after a while. people can't expect Blizzard to fix something like this within 9 HOURS, i'm pretty sure any change in code requires a week of corporate fumbling. this stuff happened to Valve too and no-one decried the end of civilization then: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_Anti-Cheat#Delayed_bans.2C_criticism_.26_rationale[/url]
My problem isn't that this bug banned people, my problem is that they're refusing to unban it and is going into full damage control, as someone on the d3 forums said, "we booted up D3 on Wine and it didn't mess up that one time so everyone else is a liar"
"Won't be lifted" my ass. WoW had the exact same problem once, and they lifted the bans. Jesus Christ.
[QUOTE=thisispain;36601321]the problem is, LIKELY, Warden and the fact that they can't tell between legitimate cheating and the API's WINE uses. stop pretending that Blizzard employees sat in a board-room one day and said "FUCK LINUX and everyone who uses them!", that's extremely dramatic.[/QUOTE] I'm willing to accept that it's a legitimate bug. I find it more than likely. The problem is that Blizzard employees, sitting in the board-board room, aren't doing jack shit to fix it. [editline]3rd July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=waxrock;36601712]"Won't be lifted" my ass. WoW had the exact same problem once, and they lifted the bans. Jesus Christ.[/QUOTE] It's either that or their lawyers are gonna be getting a lot of work. [editline]3rd July 2012[/editline] Well the good news is that people are beginning to wake the fuck up and are realizing that this always online DRM might [I]not[/I] be the best thing ever, so Blizzard is going to be put under a tremendous amount of pressure. Either they change their tune and fix their shit or they refuse to do it and lose a lot of face. I can only see victory coming from this.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;36601762] The problem is that Blizzard employees, sitting in the board-board room, aren't doing jack shit to fix it. [/QUOTE] uh it's not even working hours. [editline]3rd July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Crimor;36601531]My problem isn't that this bug banned people, my problem is that they're refusing to unban it and is going into full damage control, as someone on the d3 forums said, "we booted up D3 on Wine and it didn't mess up that one time so everyone else is a liar"[/QUOTE] except that's not what they said. that's just you being extremely dramatic and putting your own spin on it.
Nerds play Diablo, nerds use Linux Do the math, Blizzard
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;36600691]It's a multiplayer game, but the spergs keep trying to convince themselves they can be antisocial and play it alone. [/QUOTE] Why do people keep going on about it being more "social" because you are forced to play online? Not all of us are huge basement dwelling neckbeards that need to get their daily human interaction through a video game. I don't need to be social when I'm in front of my computer and I often don't want to since I already am social enough when I'm outside. Especially when this "social" (again, laughing at people calling other "antisocial" because they don't want to play with others in a video game) leads to all these problems (bans, shit DRM and whatnot).
Torchlight 2 and Path of Exile both look like they will be better games and even higher quality than Diablo 3.
Jesus. 'Session hacking' all over again. Blue post re: Linux under WINE - "Playing the game on Linux, although not officially supported, will not get you banned – cheating will." [quote=http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5978861022?page=21#402]We’ve extensively tested for false positive situations, including replicating system setups for those who have posted claiming they were banned unfairly. We’ve not found any situations that could produce a false positive, have found that the circumstances for which they were banned were clear and accurate, and we are extremely confident in our findings. Playing the game on Linux, although not officially supported, will not get you banned – cheating will.[/quote]
Someone needs to make this with bashiok :v: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rnBZoYnVq8[/media]
I think this was blown way out of proportion. There are exactly three dudes at the Wine website saying that they were banned for using Wine. Guess who made the thread on Battle.net? Did anyone actually consider that they could be actually cheating? There are tons of Wine users who haven't been banned and can play just fine.
I don't know why I should believe some random dudes on the internet more or less than Blizzard. After all it could also be a new method to cheat while using wine and now they are trying to cover it up. I played the game and so far got 60 fun hours out of it, now it gets a bit stale but that's just me complaining about how I can't find Items I can sell for 250 €. All in all I probably overplayed it a bit, I haven't even tried more than 2 characters.
This thread reminds me of the SC2 trainer one awhile back. At least it only took 2 pages to figure out a few people where blowing things out of proportion again :v:
Diablo III is the very first Blizzard game I bought and plan to buy. There's just way too much shit going from blizzard about this, even regardless of this news. I've already pretty much entirely stopped buying activision games (because most of them suck), so yeah.
A friend of mine just bought Diablo 3. He got the Digital copy. He couldn't see/pick up any items I dropped when we were in a party, nor could he trade with me, or use the Auction House, and it was like that until last night. 3 days. I got the Digital Copy and never had the 72 hour restriction but now, since the last patch, everyone will have it. Blizzard is just being fucking stupid with this game
I got the digital copy and everything went smooth as butter except for the error 37 debacle now what do our two litle stories say about everyone else?
[QUOTE=Killuah;36603410]I got the digital copy and everything went smooth as butter except for the error 37 debacle now what do our two litle stories say about everyone else?[/QUOTE] I really hope you know that there's several unix based OS's, it seems it's only happening on some, especially since it's not happening on mac.
Hey do you guys remember when there was the big misinformation flood about how playing public games would get your account hacked through session spoofing and that authenticators were useless? And then we learned that all the accounts that were hacked didn't have authenticators?
[QUOTE=Raidyr;36603623]Hey do you guys remember when there was the big misinformation flood about how playing public games would get your account hacked through session spoofing and that authenticators were useless? And then we learned that all the accounts that were hacked didn't have authenticators?[/QUOTE]No? As I recall someone from Blizzard even commented on the authenticators not working.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;36603635]No? As I recall someone from Blizzard even commented on the authenticators not working.[/QUOTE] [url]http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5149619846?page=29#571[/url] [QUOTE] We've been taking the situation extremely seriously from the start, and have done everything possible to verify how and in what circumstances these compromises are occurring. Despite the claims and theories being made, [B]we have yet to find any situations in which a person's account was not compromised through traditional means of someone else logging into their account through the use of their password.[/B] While the authenticator isn't a 100% guarantee of account security, [B]we have yet to investigate a compromise report in which an authenticator was attached beforehand.[/B][/QUOTE] A bunch of people had their brand new Diablo 3 accounts stolen by good old fashioned keylogging or phishing, but it obviously had to be something on Blizzards end because they are expert computer users and would never have their accounts compromised.
I stopped playing it
[QUOTE=thisispain;36601321]the problem is, LIKELY, Warden and the fact that they can't tell between legitimate cheating and the API's WINE uses.[/QUOTE] This game uses Warden? Funny because it doesn't seem to have a problem with using Winsock Packet Editor to spoof an en-GB (or other language) login with a russian locked cd-key
[QUOTE=Crimor;36601531]My problem isn't that this bug banned people, my problem is that they're refusing to unban it and is going into full damage control, as someone on the d3 forums said, "we booted up D3 on Wine and it didn't mess up that one time so everyone else is a liar"[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Crimor;36601504]Take it with a grain of salt, bashiok is the todd howard of blizzard.[/QUOTE] Did you not read your own post. It clearly says using wine will not get you banned.
I was thinking about buying Diablo 3, but from what it sounds like it is a DRM plagued Pay to Win game which you have to pay for to play in the first place.
lol, 4 people claim that using WINE got their accounts banned and it's obviously true - for anyone that didn't know there was recently a ban wave on two of the most popular bots. Plus anyone who knows how WINE works would realize it is literally the windows API, there's like a minute chance it would trigger a false positive. [editline]3rd July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Darkimmortal;36603808]This game uses Warden? Funny because it doesn't seem to have a problem with using Winsock Packet Editor to spoof an en-GB (or other language) login with a russian locked cd-key[/QUOTE] because it's not looking for it
A decent game ruined by everything attached to it what a sad story.
Now i know a game i'm not going to buy.
[QUOTE=Chernarus;36601384]Wine is not a motherfucking emulator.[/QUOTE] It simulates the functions of one OS on another. It is an emulator.
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