In Simulation, Moon Dust Found to Be Toxic to Humans
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[QUOTE=BenJammin';36742218]So I assume that applies to moon gel as well? RIP Cave Johnson.[/QUOTE]
Given that Cave Johnson canonically died due to poisoning from all the moon dust, yeah.
I thought we already knew this?
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who flipped out when I read this and made the connection to Portal 2.
Just makes things that more awesome.
[editline]12th July 2012[/editline]
Didn't see how long ago the last post was. (I'm a dumbass)
I never wanted to go there anyway...
[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;36742557]The article isn't saying that because the dust is exposed to radiation it's more dangerous - it's saying that the dust coupled with radiation exposure would likely cause cancer.
This seems like a common sense thing to me, breathing in ultra-fine particles of sediment couldn't be good for the lungs[/QUOTE]
It's simple, just chain smoke untill you have a lovely 0.5cm coating of tar over your lungs that could engulf any enroaching moon dust.
totally worth it.
Didn't we already know this, though?
Who ever thought cheese could be so deadly?
[QUOTE=Craigewan;36743928]Portal 2 predicted science. Awesome.[/QUOTE]
They've known about the "pure poison" bit since at least the late sixties, when the first manned Apollo missions brought the stuff back with them. So instead, [I]Science predicted Portal 2[/I] makes more sense. :v:
Well shit, every time I thought about being on the moon one of the first and best things in my mind was throwing the fine dirt around in low gravity.
Would look cool as hell but now it just seems threatening.
I was about to say gas masks but then I remember what I was taught about post-nuclear-attack survival. You shouldn't wear a gas mask because you're just going to get a radioactive mass of stuff in your filter and it's a lot worse to just have a highly radioactive glob sitting next to your face for hours on end than it is to digest it.
[QUOTE=koeniginator;36751501]I was about to say gas masks but then I remember what I was taught about post-nuclear-attack survival. You shouldn't wear a gas mask because you're just going to get a radioactive mass of stuff in your filter and it's a lot worse to just have a highly radioactive glob sitting next to your face for hours on end than it is to digest it.[/QUOTE]
change the filter?
It's 1000x better than ACTUALLY BREATHING the shit to have it next to you, as opposed to in you.
This isn't that new to me.
I've known for a while that lunar regolith tends to be incredibly sharp, due to the fact that it tends to splinter apart, and without any erosion, there is nothing to wear down the jagged edges. If one were to inhale it, it would basically cut you up along the entire path until it settles into the lungs, where it further cuts you up.
Likewise, if I recall correctly, due to the very fine nature of lunar regolith grains, it basically becomes like cement and settles at the bottom of your lungs, due to the all the moisture it picks up as it travels through your body.
Lunar regolith behaves a lot like volcanic ash, really.
The cancer thing doesn't surprise me, since, as Johnny pointed out, the moon has a very thin atmosphere, and thusly its surface is exposed to a lot more cosmic radiation.
we r all human bengs and deservd to have moon dust
[QUOTE=Fahrenheit;36742841]Sometimes I feel like we're never getting off this planet, and if we do, there's gonna be a lot of dead bodies and sick people that are going to pave the way to advances that finally make space travel safe.
You didn't cross the Atlantic in the comfort of a cruise ship the first time. It took a lot of trial and lost souls to reach this point.[/QUOTE]
Undoubtedly. Magellan died, along with most of his crew, during their circumnavigation of the planet. Can you imagine what the first long range voyages will be like?
As much as I hate to say it, there are going to be more than a few unanswered distress signals once space travel becomes commonplace. We've got a long way to go before we reach Mass Effect or Star Trek.
[editline]13th July 2012[/editline]
I mean, this alone proves it. Building a moon colony or base, should we ever attempt it, is going to be monumental for much more than the whole "building a self contained and sustaining environment 385,000 km from the Earth" thing.
It's no worse than Chilly Powder or Abestos. The stuff is bad but people have worked with it for years and years and even to this day do it, most of the time without even so much as a mask over their mouth. Being as careful as astronauts are, I don't see it causing an issue as long as you keep the suits in a separate sealed off section of the habitat module, give it ventilation when you're in it, wear surgeon masks when you work with the suits inside, and you're golden
[QUOTE=DudeGuyKT;36743067]Isn't it also extremely abrasive? I read somewhere that on past trips to the surface, it almost wore holes in parts of the suit.[/QUOTE]
From what I watched in some Discovery Channel show (might have been mythbusters), since there is no wind on the moon, the particles don't get a chance to collide with each other, this means that they're not rounded off like Earth sand. It would make sense for them to be really abrasive since they would have so many jagged edges
hasn't the whole "moondust is some nasty shit" thing been known about for a while now?
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