• Netherlands: Suicide victim's son learns of father's death after photos go viral
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[quote] DRIEHUIS, NETHERLANDS (BNO NEWS) -- Teenagers who witnessed a man jump in front of a train in the Netherlands Wednesday took photos of his decapitated body and posted them to the social networking website Twitter, where the victim's son saw them before learning it was his father. The incident took place on late Wednesday morning when the unidentified man entered the track at a train station in Driehuis, a small town in the province of North Holland, about 18 kilometers (11 miles) northwest of Amsterdam. It happened as a group of teenage students stood on a platform nearby. Moments after the man was killed by a train, several students posted photos and a video of the man's body on Twitter, where thousands of people viewed it. "Here. Here is the body. Here he is," a boy can be heard shouting in the background of the video. Another student talks about the victim's severed head as the camera points at it. The photos and video spread quickly among Twitter users in the Netherlands, many of whom expressed their shock and condemnation. "Disgusting these photos on Twitter of the suicide in Driehuis. The person who posted these is really sick," user LBangma wrote on Thursday morning. Police were reluctant to comment on the incident but called on people to delete the photos. "Everyone who felt obligated to make a picture of the train victim [in] Driehuis: remove picture immediately. Disrespectful and goes way too far!," Kennemerland police wrote on their Twitter account. Local police officer Edwin Verweij, who informed the man's relatives of his death, wrote on his Twitter account that the victim's son had seen the photo's before he knew it was his father. "Have had to tell relatives of the victim that their husband and father has been killed," he said. "Very emotional. Son saw pictures online before he knew it was his father! Very heavy so that's why the request (to delete the photos)!" Verweij refused to comment on Thursday and referred questions to the communications department, where a police spokeswoman confirmed the victim's son had viewed the pictures online before he knew it was his father. "Yes, that is correct," the spokeswoman said, declining to go into further details. The spokeswoman said police do not want to discuss the incident, saying it had received enough attention. "They were very shocking photos and the person who posted the pictures realized this immediately and started deleting things," she added. "And we prefer to leave it at that, because the cause itself is tragic enough."[/quote] [url]http://www.bnonews.com/inbox/?id=876[/url] Video:(NSFW) [url]http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6e6_1340814090[/url]
Why would you videotape that? Disrespectful pricks.
Oh god that's awful
I cant even begin to fathom what might be going through this person's head.
Whoever uploaded that is an ass. I still can't explain why I watched the video though, I wasn't expecting anything pretty, but I did it anyway.
It reminds me when my dad was a cop. Normally they would get calls for fatal accidents and they would come out and direct the traffic and such. One time my dad and his friend invited one of the 911 operators to come with them to check out the wreck during the guy's break. Ends up when they got there the woman who died in the crash was the guy's mom who immediately broke down completely which my dad had to help him. after that operators were no longer allowed to go to any calls.
[QUOTE=kenshin6;36546425]I cant even begin to fathom what might be going through this person's head.[/QUOTE] A train of bad thoughts. I bet I'm going to hell for that one. I actually witnessed someone jump in front of a train a couple of years ago. It's a really numbing experience to see someone end their own life, even if you don't know them at all. Funny thing at that moment was that while everyone was going hysterical, screaming and crying, all I could think was "[i]I'm going to miss my train[/i]". Sans expletives. I felt nothing at all, just apathy. Then when I went to bed that evening I just got the shakes. I couldn't sleep for a week.
[QUOTE=V12US;36546521]A train of bad thoughts. I bet I'm going to hell for that one. I actually witnessed someone jump in front of a train a couple of years ago. It's a really numbing experience to see someone end their own life, even if you don't know them at all. Funny thing at that moment was that while everyone was going hysterical, screaming and crying, all I could think was "[i]I'm going to miss my train[/i]". Sans expletives. I felt nothing at all, just apathy. Then when I went to bed that evening I just got the shakes. I couldn't sleep for a week.[/QUOTE] To be honest jumping in front of a train is really inconsiderate thing to do. If you're gonna kill yourself don't, 1) potentially mentally traumatise (or even mentally scar for life) up to dozens of random people who have to watch you partake in your selfish act (not to mention the fucking train driver himself who's most likely going to blame himself), and 2) ruin everybody's fucking day by making them miss their train to their job/uni/school, whatever. I mean I'd be pissed off if I missed a really useful lecture at uni that would have helped me greatly in future assignments/an exam or something because some wanker decided to off himself in such a dickish way.
[QUOTE=sltungle;36546660]To be honest jumping in front of a train is really inconsiderate thing to do. If you're gonna kill yourself don't, 1) potentially mentally traumatise (or even mentally scar for life) up to dozens of random people who have to watch you partake in your selfish act (not to mention the fucking train driver himself who's most likely going to blame himself), and 2) ruin everybody's fucking day by making them miss their train to their job/uni/school, whatever. I mean I'd be pissed off if I missed a really useful lecture at uni that would have helped me greatly in future assignments/an exam or something because some wanker decided to off himself in such a dickish way.[/QUOTE] Suicide is in no way selfish. Jumping in front of a train is another thing, though
[QUOTE=Marbalo;36546829]Suicide is in no way selfish. Jumping in front of a train is another thing, though[/QUOTE] Which is what he said.
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;36546856]Which is what he said.[/QUOTE] Uh no [quote]up to dozens of random people who have to watch you partake in your [B]selfish act[/B][/quote]
What a selfish asshole to go and kill himself, he has a son and a wife who loved him very much and he just went and ended his life. Did he not think about how they would feel?
[QUOTE=Marbalo;36546872]Uh no[/QUOTE] Considering that there is a video of him doing it, he was doing it as an act of attention to himself, and therefore is considered selfish.
[QUOTE=EzioAuditore;36546891]What a selfish asshole to go and kill himself, he has a son and a wife who loved him very much and he just went and ended his life. Did he not think about how they would feel?[/QUOTE] Read the article next time.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;36546872]Uh no[/QUOTE] It IS selfish. I mean if you're entirely hell bent on doing it, at least do it somewhere private where you're not going to traumatise too many people (other than whoever finds you and whoever loves and cares about you), and make sure to do it in a way that's also not traumatising either (nobody needs to walk in on their husband/wife with half of their head gone and a shotgun in what used to be their mouth - just OD or something slightly less horrific).
[QUOTE=Lanopo;36546916]Read the article next time.[/QUOTE] He jumped in front of the train and had a wife and son. Are you stupid?
[QUOTE=EzioAuditore;36546891]What a selfish asshole to go and kill himself, he has a son and a wife who loved him very much and he just went and ended his life. Did he not think about how they would feel?[/QUOTE] Because expecting someone in a screwed up enough mental state to commit suicide to rationally think about others' emotions is entirely reasonable.
[QUOTE=sltungle;36546965]It IS selfish. I mean if you're entirely hell bent on doing it, at least do it somewhere private where you're not going to traumatise too many people (other than whoever finds you and whoever loves and cares about you), and make sure to do it in a way that's also not traumatising either (nobody needs to walk in on their husband/wife with half of their head gone and a shotgun in what used to be their mouth - just OD or something slightly less horrific).[/QUOTE] Yeah, like I said, committing suicide in a very public manner is quite selfish I would say. But suicide itself is not selfish in at all, because it is more selfish to ask a person to continue living for your own mental stability. Just so that you wont feel a little sad for a couple of weeks.
[QUOTE=EmperorVagak;36546913]Considering that there is a video of him doing it, he was doing it as an act of attention to himself, and therefore is considered selfish.[/QUOTE] I dont think he was expecting anyone to post a video of him online.
[QUOTE=ThisGuy0;36546980]Because expecting someone in a screwed up enough mental state to commit suicide to rationally think about others' emotions is entirely reasonable.[/QUOTE] So you're saying everyone who is suicidal isn't going to think about other people's emotions? Clearly wrong there. Many people have thought about suicide but have stopped because they have a family or another reason.
im pretty sure that if your life sucks enough to drive you the point of suicide, you don't give a shit about where you do it, just as long as it gets done i figure that you'd have to be on an adrenaline rush or something to have the balls to end your own life anyhow, so it'd have to be on impulse in a way
My mom used to live real close to the train tracks. One night, she was woken up by the blaring of a dozen or so sirens, so she decided to look outside and see what was up, only to see blood and guts everywhere. I also just remembered I could've seen someone jump in front of a train too had it not been for the simple fact that I decided to not wait for the train when it passed.
My best friend committed suicide 2 years ago in july, 2 weeks from now actually. I still think it was an incredibly selfish act and if i could speak to him for 5 minutes now to tell him how i felt i would let him know how fucking stupid and insanely selfish he is for doing such a thing. Honestly, the only time i think something like suicide is remotely okay is when you're in a [i]literally[/i] helpless state. For example, if you're completely paralyzed and can't do anything except move your eyes and not even speak. In a case like that, euthanasia i believe is okay. But if you're an entirely capable middle aged man who has a family and aren't disabled in any way or in a dire situation of some sort then it's probably the most selfish thing a human could do
[QUOTE=Marbalo;36547016]But suicide itself is not selfish in at all, because it is more selfish to ask a person to continue living for your own mental stability. Just so that you wont feel a little sad for a couple of weeks.[/QUOTE] Suicide is entirely selfish. Don't get me wrong. It's not necessarily a bad thing, and it is completely your decision to make, but in virtually all cases, you're doing it entirely for yourself. It is exactly the most selfish thing you can do. [quote]Selfishness is placing concern with oneself or one's own interests above the well-being or interests of others.[/quote]
[QUOTE=sltungle;36546660]To be honest jumping in front of a train is really inconsiderate thing to do. If you're gonna kill yourself don't, 1) potentially mentally traumatise (or even mentally scar for life) up to dozens of random people who have to watch you partake in your selfish act (not to mention the fucking train driver himself who's most likely going to blame himself), and 2) ruin everybody's fucking day by making them miss their train to their job/uni/school, whatever. I mean I'd be pissed off if I missed a really useful lecture at uni that would have helped me greatly in future assignments/an exam or something because some wanker decided to off himself in such a dickish way.[/QUOTE] Sure did happen to me yesterday. I was stuck for 2 and a half hour, one day earlier and I had failed my last exam.
[QUOTE=sltungle;36546660]To be honest jumping in front of a train is really inconsiderate thing to do. If you're gonna kill yourself don't, 1) potentially mentally traumatise (or even mentally scar for life) up to dozens of random people who have to watch you partake in your selfish act (not to mention the fucking train driver himself who's most likely going to blame himself), and 2) ruin everybody's fucking day by making them miss their train to their job/uni/school, whatever. I mean I'd be pissed off if I missed a really useful lecture at uni that would have helped me greatly in future assignments/an exam or something because some wanker decided to off himself in such a dickish way.[/QUOTE] Listen up kids! It's alright to kill yourself as long as you don't inconvenience anyone else in the act! Because that's [I]such[/I] a dickish thing to do.
So suicide is basically the definition of selfish? Interesting fact.
funny because I'm sure that mass suicide that happened wasn't an act of selfishness
[QUOTE=Recurracy;36547528]funny because I'm sure that mass suicide that happened wasn't an act of selfishness[/QUOTE] Which are you talking about?
[QUOTE=jaybuz;36547506]So suicide is basically the definition of selfish? Interesting fact.[/QUOTE] But not in a negative way.
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