• New British party inspired by Macron seeks to overturn Brexit
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[QUOTE]LONDON (Reuters) - A new British party inspired by French President Emmanuel Macron’s movement launched a campaign on Monday to thwart Brexit by convincing lawmakers to block any EU withdrawal deal Prime Minister Theresa May can strike. With just over 13 months left until Britain is due to leave the EU, opponents of Brexit are exploring ways to stop what they call Britain’s biggest mistake since World War Two. The Renew party, founded last year after Macron’s En Marche! movement propelled him to power, said it would target pro-Brexit lawmakers in constituencies with high levels of support for EU membership. “We intend to be tough on Brexit and tough on the causes of Brexit,” said James Torrance, the party’s head of strategy. “We’ll pressure MPs to consider the national interest and put Remain back on the table in a vote on the final EU deal.” The party, founded by an accountant, a former journalist and a consultant, plans to contest seats in May local elections and all 650 parliamentary seats if there is a national election. In the United Kingdom’s 2016 referendum, 51.9 percent, or 17.4 million people, voted to leave the EU while 48.1 percent, or 16.1 million, voted to stay. Blocking any withdrawal deal that May brings back from Brussels in October would probably sink her minority government and prompt a national election that could throw Britain’s exit into doubt.[/QUOTE] [URL="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-renew/new-british-party-inspired-by-macron-seeks-to-overturn-brexit-idUSKCN1G31AZ?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_content=5a8af5b104d30167d14bd921&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook"]Reuters.[/URL]
I'm a-okay with this.
How will this succeed where the Lib Dems have failed?
Whoa shit, the [URL="https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/quake/images/9/93/Makron_Q4.jpg"]Makron[/URL] is leading this party?
I want nothing less than for this to actually work but I feel like we're approaching "here's how Bernie can still win." tier here.
bout bloody time.
[QUOTE=UberMunchkin;53143594] God knows, lack of people yelling about student fees and the coalition? I had a quick skim over their website and they generally seem to be LibDem in all but name :v:[/QUOTE] I really wish I wasn't able to agree with this as much as I am, but pretty much anywhere you talk about the lib-dems people will inevitably bring up both student fees and "broken coalition promises", and that's about their extent of their knowledge of the party. It's a shame, because now we have a tory coalition with the feckin' DUP. It'll probably become nothing though judging everything else so lol
Wow 13 months left. Can't believe it's already been a year of the 2 years the UK has to negotiate the exit.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;53143940]Wow 13 months left. Can't believe it's already been a year of the 2 years the UK has to negotiate the exit.[/QUOTE] And yet in that year, absolutely fuck-all positive has been accomplished.
[QUOTE=Bob The Knob;53143552]How will this succeed where the Lib Dems have failed?[/QUOTE] It won't. Like the Green's if you are bound up in only one cause then you are doomed to fail. [QUOTE=RedDagger;53143776]I really wish I wasn't able to agree with this as much as I am, but pretty much anywhere you talk about the lib-dems people will inevitably bring up both student fees and "broken coalition promises", and that's about their extent of their knowledge of the party. It's a shame, because now we have a tory coalition with the feckin' DUP. It'll probably become nothing though judging everything else so lol[/QUOTE] Lib Dems are also anti-gay don't forget that.
[QUOTE=DeadWar;53144072]Lib Dems are also anti-gay don't forget that.[/QUOTE] Absolute opposite of the truth, the Lib Dems have been arguably the most pro-LGBT party since their inception. Even Tim Farron, whose personal anti-gay views rendered him effectively unfit to be leader, [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21346694]voted in favour of same-sex marriage[/url]
[QUOTE=DeadWar;53144072]Lib Dems are also anti-gay don't forget that.[/QUOTE] Holy shit someone's been drinking the Daily Heil kool-aid. Even if Farron himself isn't super good at the whole "liking the gays" thing, the Lib Dems have been fairly ahead of the curve in supporting equal rights. It's quite literally their reason to exist, to act as a progressive rights party.
[QUOTE=DeadWar;53144072] Lib Dems are also anti-gay don't forget that.[/QUOTE] hi, Lib-Dem member here you're wrong
Do it. Brexit really is one of the worst decisions to come out of London in the entire history of British existence.
[QUOTE=DeadWar;53144072]It won't. Like the Green's if you are bound up in only one cause then you are doomed to fail.[/QUOTE] Just like UKIP's one aim to leave the EU.
[QUOTE=Bob The Knob;53143552]How will this succeed where the Lib Dems have failed?[/QUOTE] probably won't, but presumably Unite didn't cash in their popularity chips for a whiff of power, partnering with their absolute opposite in terms of policy, outraging and disgusting their core voter base and dooming the party for the next 20 years shorter answer: it probably won't succeed, but at least it's not the fucking lib dems
radical centrism, what a breath of fresh air
I dunno if a new party is really a great idea. It seems like they would be best off allocating resources to support lib Dems, who are already pretty centrist, in constituencies they have a chance in. As well as supporting labor and Tory members that are against brexit. Although I dunno, they say they wanna run candidates everywhere, but they could wind up fulfilling the role UKIP did, which is squeezing concessions out. Corbyn is a bit of a problem but we might see how "populist" he actually is if popular opinion turns hard against brexit, as opposed to being softly against it. Really with how unstable the Tory government is it's likely that a new election will be sooner than later.
[QUOTE=RedDagger;53143776]I really wish I wasn't able to agree with this as much as I am, but pretty much anywhere you talk about the lib-dems people will inevitably bring up both student fees and "broken coalition promises", and that's about their extent of their knowledge of the party. It's a shame, because now we have a tory coalition with the feckin' DUP. It'll probably become nothing though judging everything else so lol[/QUOTE] A lot of young people voted lib Dem because of they were tired of labour and the lib dem policy towards student fees. A lot of people lost faith as soon it was announced they may make a coalition with the tories. A lot of people would've never voted for them if there was any inkling of them making a coalition, a lot of people who voted for them would never in a million years voted conservative They sold any credibility they had a for a sliver of (mostly ineffectual) power. They basically signed their own death certificates, no ones voting for them again, not after that betrayal
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