Most of the inmates who died in the Honduras prison fire were either not charged with any crimes or
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COMAYAGUA, Honduras (AP) — [B]The prisoners whose scorched bodies were carried out piece by piece Thursday morning from a charred Honduran prison had been locked inside an overcrowded penitentiary where most inmates had never been charged, let alone convicted[/B], according to an internal Honduran government report obtained by The Associated Press.
The Honduran government report, which was sent to the United Nations this month, said 57 percent of some 800 inmates of the Comayagua farm prison north of the Central American country's capital were either awaiting trial or being held as suspected gang members.
A fire that witnesses said was started by an inmate tore through the prison Tuesday night, burning and suffocating screaming men in their locked cells as rescuers desperately searched for keys. Officials confirmed 358 dead, making it the world's deadliest prison fire in a century.
Honduran authorities said they are still investigating other possible causes based on prisoner accounts, including that the fire could have been set in collusion with guards to stage a prison break.
"All of this isn't confirmed, but we're looking into it," said attorney general's spokesman Melvin Duarte said.
Survivors told horrific tales of climbing walls to break the sheet metal roofing and escape, only to see prisoners in other cell blocks being burned alive. Inmates were found stuck to the roofing, their bodies fused to the metal.
From the time firefighters received a call at 10:59 p.m. local time, the rescue was marred by human error and conditions that made the prison ripe for catastrophe.
According to the report, obtained exclusively by the AP, on any given day there were about 800 inmates in a facility built for 500. There were only 51 guards by day and just 12 at night — the case at the time of the fire.
The prison has no medical or mental health care and the budget allows less than $1 per day per prisoner for food. Prisoners only needed to bear a simple tattoo to be incarcerated under the strict Honduran anti-gang laws, the report said. The U.N. condemns the practice as a violation of international law.
"This tragedy could have been averted or at least not been so catastrophic if there had been an emergency system in all the penitentiaries in the country," human rights prosecutor German Enamorado told HRN Radio.
National prison system director Danilo Orellana declined to comment on the supervision or the crowded conditions in Comayagua, a prison farm where inmates grew corn and beans. He referred an AP reporter to the commander of the prison police, who said comment would have to come from his public affairs office, which did not respond to an AP request late Wednesday.
President Porfirio Lobo on Wednesday suspended Orellana and other top prison officials.
Inside the prison, charred walls and debris showed the path of the fire, which burned through six barracks that had been crammed with 70 to 105 inmates each in four-level bunk beds.
Bodies were found piled up in the bathrooms, where inmates apparently fled to the showers, hoping the water would save them from blistering flames. Prisoners perished clutching each other in bathtubs and curled up in laundry sinks.
"It was something horrible," said survivor Eladio Chica, 40, as he was led away by police Wednesday night, handcuffed, to testify before a local court about what he saw. "I only saw flames, and when we got out, men were being burned, up against the bars, they were stuck to them."
A team of 17 pathologists were working in three groups in the capital's main morgue to identify the victims with the help of fingerprints and dental records. The government of Chile was sending a team of 14 pathologists to help.
About 115 bodies were in the morgue Thursday morning, after being moved by refrigerated truck overnight. At least six were burnt beyond recognition, Duarte said.
More than 800 relatives were staying in temporary housing south of the capital while they awaited the arrival of their loved ones' bodies.
The deadly inferno never had to happen.
The frantic inmate who started the fire gave warning, phoning the state governor and screaming he was going to burn the place down. After the man, who wasn't identified, lit a mattress on fire a few minutes later, crews said they rushed to the prison, arriving two minutes after a call for help because the firehouse was nearby. But the handful of guards held them out for a catastrophic 30 minutes, saying they thought the screams inside were a prison break and a riot. When rescuers finally were allowed in, they said they couldn't find keys or guards to unlock the barracks.
Fifteen minutes away, the U.S. military's Southern Command operates Joint Task Force Bravo, where major search and rescue teams and fire squads are on standby. They were never dispatched.
Capt. Candace Allen, a spokeswoman for Joint Task Force Bravo, said they can only send what they're asked for, so throughout the night they sent surgical masks, flashlights and Glowsticks. No one asked for firefighters.
On Thursday morning, officials continued their investigation at the prison, where murals of Catholic saints, Jesus Christ and psalms stand out in an otherwise miserable place. Two palm trees flank the front entrance where a sign reads: "Let there be justice, even if the world perishes."
Honduran authorities were investigating several separate allegations from prisoners about the cause of the fire, including the suggestion that it was caused by an electrical short and not arson.
Duarte said investigators had also been told that some prisoners had paid guards to set the fire in order to create chaos and allow a prison break.
"All of this isn't confirmed, but we're looking into it," he told The Associated Press.
"Conditions at Comayagua? I'd have to say among the worst in Honduras," said Ron W. Nikkel, president of Prison Fellowship International who visited the facility in 2005. "It was very congested, there's not enough food, it's dangerous and dirty."
The U.S. State Department has criticized the Honduran government for harsh prison conditions, citing severe overcrowding, malnutrition, and lack of adequate sanitation.
"The ready access of prisoners to weapons and other contraband, impunity for inmate attacks against nonviolent prisoners, inmate escapes, and threats by inmates and their associates outside prisons against prison officials and their families contributed to an unstable and dangerous penitentiary system environment," says the most recent State Department report on human rights in Honduras. "There were reports that prisoners were tortured or otherwise abused in, or on their way to, prisons and other detention facilities."
Human rights groups and the U.S. government also say inmates with mental illnesses, as well as those with tuberculosis and other infectious diseases, are routinely held among the general prison population.
Filmmaker Oscar Estrada, whose documentary "El Porvenir" focused on a 2003 Honduran prison riot, said the fire was one of several in recent years, including a 2004 blaze that killed more than 100 inmates.
"When fires break out, they will not open gates to release prisoners and they die inside. It's happened before. They haven't learned because this is a collapsing country, they're not interested in making change," he said.
Prison historian Mitchel P. Roth said fires pose a major challenge for prisons.
"Prisoners set fires in their cells all the time, either for attention, to attack someone, or some people just like fire," said Roth, a professor at Sam Houston State University in Huntsville, Texas.
Prisoners are typically locked in their cells while poorly trained guards may be scrambling to save their own lives, added Roth, who is writing a book about a 1930 fire in Ohio that killed 322 prisoners in just 30 minutes.
"There's rarely time to react as that smoke spreads," he said. "This was one of those tragedies waiting to happen."[/release]
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[QUOTE=areolop;34715474]Horrible? Absolutely. But I'd rather have a lot of criminals die in a fire then a lot of civilians.
Seriously, its sad that they died but they are convicted criminals of serious crimes. If this where a jail full of people convicted of 3 DUIs, it would be a different story, but its not. 66% of all people in jail go back there on a repeat offense.
10% of the people, use 90% of the resources. Frankly them dying is honestly helping the government save money[/QUOTE]
That's just horrible. Left in their cells to roast to death like that, nobody should suffer that way... Even though the guards were logically acting on the basis of self-preservation, they should've had at least some sense of compassion and insight, maybe even opened up the cells to get them away from the fire.
Bit of a waste of life happened there, not the best outcome by any stretch.
bet aerolop feels like a cunt now.
That's absolutely heartbreaking. Those poor guys. If that was me in that cell, I would feel like absolute crap; leaving behind family and friends and I wasn't even convicted of a crime. Poor guys :(
[QUOTE=ironman17;34726792]That's just horrible. Left in their cells to roast to death like that, nobody should suffer that way... Even though the guards were logically acting on the basis of self-preservation, they should've had at least some sense of compassion and insight, maybe even opened up the cells to get them away from the fire.
Bit of a waste of life happened there, not the best outcome by any stretch.[/QUOTE]
As a former prison guard their staff acted unprofessionally and unethically. We're suppose to be better then them and lead as an example if you will. I trained as a guard in a wide verity of things, everything from basic law enforcement training that police go though, medical training, mental health training, crowd control, less then lethal weapons and use of force options, food handling, and even basic fire-fighting training (mainly to do damage control to isolate the fire from spreading.) I had to train daily/weekly with an air-pack. I understand leaving or evacuating if you can't save them or it just becomes suicide trying to get them out, but a lot of these people could have been saved, but no effort was made.
As much as I disliked a lot of inmates and thought they where scum of the earth, I would have never abandoned my post and leave them to die. Especially if they're non-convicted and awaiting trial. No justice in letting them die in such a horrific way.
That is why most places with standards do yearly mass eviction drills (Yes, chain-gangs, armed guards and everyone leaves the building restrained.). On top of that they go though a lot of training and retraining. Sadly enough after reading the article that place seemed like hell, they had guards with no training, no qualified medical staff. That place was a breeding ground for disease, illness and anguish.
areolop you're an even bigger cunt now gg
oh god areolop what the fuck
[sub]though in all fairness it seems the source did say they were all criminals, which is no less retarded of him but still[/sub]
Fuck, what a fate for hundreds of men..
[QUOTE=Cone;34727322]though in all fairness it seems the source did say they were all criminals, which is no less retarded of him but still[/QUOTE]
The thread title says most of them DID NOT actually commit any crimes. The article also says that just merely having a tattoo is enough to get you into jail in Honduras.
I think he was referring to the original article which said the crimes were more serious.
[QUOTE=BudakCiner;34728519]The thread title says most of them DID NOT actually commit any crimes. The article also says that just merely having a tattoo is enough to get you into jail in Honduras.[/QUOTE]
No, the article posted in the thread that areolop made that post in.
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