• UK is leaving the EU
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Shit.
[QUOTE=maxspeed3006;50581437]All i can think is: poor Scotland.[/QUOTE] We've been beaten enough, I'm over it now...
[QUOTE=Jutseph;50581428][url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36611512[/url] There's no getting off this wild ride, boys.[/QUOTE] Can't wait for the whole world to get fucked since the UK decided to leave.
This is great. Honestly.
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[QUOTE=Boilrig;50581444]This is great. Honestly.[/QUOTE] Yeah thousands of lives being ruined it great!
[QUOTE=.Isak.;50581372]A referendum is surprisingly undemocratic. I vote for representatives to represent me because I don't have the time or the money or the ability to be knowledgeable about major issues. I trust that those representatives take the time to become knowledgeable about certain issues. If they're negotiating a trade deal, I expect them to talk to the leading economic minds in what the effects are predicted to be. In a referendum, the representatives are the general public who know fuck-all about the topic in any knowledgeable fashion. This means the entire vote is dictated by media sensation, not by knowledge about the topic. A capable representative will use their time to learn the effects of a decision before they make it - the general public doesn't do that. We elect reps to make decisions for us based on their knowledge. Referendums basically throw that out the window. If you asked the general US population if we should nuke the Middle East, it's totally possible that 50% or more would say yes - that doesn't mean it's a good idea and that judgment should be reserved for the elected people who's [i]literal job is to know how political decisions will affect the country[/i].[/QUOTE] Participatory utilitarianism is the ultimate democracy approaching political decisions with influence from scientific method. communal peer reviewing of decisions and all that
BBC calls it, leave has won. That's it folks, now we just get to find out what happens next... This is going to be one hell of a day. [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36615028[/url]
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;50581449]Yeah thousands of lives being ruined it great![/QUOTE] So dramatic. Bet you're gonna move to Canada now huh
Sky news has called it for Leave.
Yep, shout out to the uninformed voters for plunging us into economic collapse and political ruin. We're only coming out of a recession, and now we don't have the leverage to negotiate a competitive trade agreement for ourselves. The next 10 years are going to be a horrifying mess.
Like honestly, don't think it is the end of the world, once the vote is over, the markets are basically going to return to normal. It takes 2 years to leave the EU, so nothing is going to 'suddenly collapse' or 'thousands of lives being ruined it great!'
[QUOTE=FetusFondler;50581456]So dramatic. Bet you're gonna move to Canada now huh[/QUOTE] Yep probably will eventually because screw this shit hole, not like I'll be able to find any jobs here so don't have much of a choice now lol
[QUOTE=CMB Unit 01;50581461]Yep, shout out to the uninformed voters for plunging us into economic collapse and political ruin. We're only coming out of a recession, and now we don't have the leverage to negotiate a competitive trade agreement for ourselves. The next 10 years are going to be a horrifying mess.[/QUOTE] Also shout out to anyone who voted Leave as a protest vote against the government. It was nice being the 5th biggest economy in the world.
[QUOTE=CMB Unit 01;50581461]Yep, shout out to the uninformed voters for plunging us into economic collapse and political ruin. We're only coming out of a recession, and now we don't have the leverage to negotiate a competitive trade agreement for ourselves. The next 10 years are going to be a horrifying mess.[/QUOTE] At least we're British.
How has BBC called it with Leave at 13m votes?
Right now I'm curious as to what'll happen in the future with Gibraltar, seeing as they had a damn large remain majority - and also the fact they're not located in the British isles.
[QUOTE=r0b0tsquid;50581473]How has BBC called it with Leave at 13m votes?[/QUOTE] Predictions and modelling, all of them have called it equally (BBC, ITV and Sky) so they might be accurate.
Have a look at some of the analytics lower on this page. [url]http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2016/jun/23/eu-referendum-live-results-and-analysis[/url]
[QUOTE=UberMunchkin;50581478]Right now I'm curious as to what'll happen in the future with Gibraltar, seeing as they had a damn large remain majority - and also the fact they're not located in the British isles.[/QUOTE] They are about to get shafted by Spain.
people are overreacting. this was a bad decision but is not life ruining as you seem to think. there will be a minor impact on long run growth but fairly big short run problems.
What this tells me as an American FPer, is that Trump might actually win the U.S. presidential election, with this many people voting against their interests. I know the U.K. and U.S. aren't comparable, but if something this unbelievable happens in the U.K., something unbelievable happening in the U.S. wouldn't be a surprise to me anymore.
[url]https://www.dailyfx.com/gbp-usd[/url] [I]Tumbling down[/I]
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50581487]people are overreacting. this was a bad decision but is not life ruining as you seem to think. there will be a minor impact on long run growth but fairly big short run problems.[/QUOTE] Its life ruining for anyone who has a job which only exists thanks to the EU.. Or are in an industry that would prefer to be in the EU to trade.
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50581487]people are overreacting. this was a bad decision but is not life ruining as you seem to think. there will be a minor impact on long run growth but fairly big short run problems.[/QUOTE] Maybe not for people with rich parents to fall back on like you, but for normal people this could actually be really really bad.
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[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;50581490]What this tells me as an American FP, is that Trump might actually win the U.S. presidential election, with this many people vote against their interests. I know the U.K. and U.S. aren't comparable, but if something this unbelievable happens in the U.K., something unbelievable happening in the U.S. wouldn't be a surprise to me anymore.[/QUOTE] people are always suprised by the number of uninformed and uneducated when theyre forced to see them in action
As an american, this decision seems both strange and horrifying. Knowing that its gonna take a couple years to officially leave eases the anxiety, but its still gonna be incredibly shitty for everyone as time goes on. Here's hoping things go better than predicted.
[QUOTE=Orkel;50581491][url]https://www.dailyfx.com/gbp-usd[/url] [I]Tumbling down[/I][/QUOTE] Far out.. that's nuts.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;50581495]Maybe not for people with rich parents to fall back on like you, but for normal people this could actually be really really bad.[/QUOTE] lol the people worst affected are people in finance the worst affected are the richest and you need to be blind not to see this.
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