• Richard Stallman, founder of the GNU project and champion of open source, is urging Linux users to N
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[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/aNgNT.png[/IMG] [QUOTE=Richard Stallman]A well known company, Valve, that distributes nonfree computer games with Digital Restrictions Management, recently announced it would distribute these games for GNU/Linux. What good and bad effects can this have? I suppose that availability of popular nonfree programs on GNU/Linux can boost adoption of the system. However, our goal goes beyond making this system a “success”; its purpose is to bring freedom to the users. Thus, the question is how this development affects users' freedom. Nonfree games (like other nonfree programs) are unethical because they deny freedom to their users. If you want freedom, one requisite for it is not having these games on your computer. That much is clear. However, if you're going to use these games, you're better off using them on GNU/Linux rather than on Microsoft Windows. At least you avoid the harm to your freedom that Windows would do. Thus, in direct practical terms, this development can do both harm and good. It might encourage GNU/Linux users to install these games, and it might encourage users of the games to replace Windows with GNU/Linux. My guess is that the direct good effect will be bigger than the direct harm. But there is also an indirect effect: what does the use of these games teach people in our community? Any GNU/Linux distro that comes with software to offer these games will teach users that the point is not freedom. Nonfree software in GNU/Linux distros already works against the goal of freedom. Adding these games to a distro would augment that effect. If you want to promote freedom, please take care not to talk about the availability of these games on GNU/Linux as support for our cause. Instead you could tell people about the Liberated Pixel Cup free game contest and the LibrePlanet Gaming Collective free gaming night.[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/nonfree-games.html[/url]
Oh my fucking god. [editline]11th June 2012[/editline] Also, telling people to not do something to support freedom is ironic.
Uh huh... Right then. Evil closed source games are going to invade our platform!
I don't understand this, and maybe that's because I don't own a Linux system. If this is what he's saying, does he want everyone to just use Linux to play free or pirated games rather than buy games that have any form of DRM?
that article reads like a parody
Right, so the moral of it is: "Anything that costs money doesn't support freedom. Me telling you not to use it supports freedom."
[QUOTE=Loriborn;36280105]I don't understand this, and maybe that's because I don't own a Linux system. If this is what he's saying, does he want everyone to just use Linux to play free or pirated games rather than buy games that have any form of DRM?[/QUOTE] Well yeah basically, since it's a form of DRM and that you have to buy the games (OH NO) then it basically goes against freedom which is fucken stupid
isn't richard stallman an insane bearded man
[QUOTE=RedStar;36280120]isn't richard stallman an insane bearded man[/QUOTE] Yes [thumb]http://stallman.org/Portrait_-_Denmark_DTU_2007-3-31.jpg[/thumb]
"If I'm not making money on Linux, nobody can!"
[QUOTE=RedStar;36280120]isn't richard stallman an insane bearded man[/QUOTE] Yes. The GNU is insane and his goals regarding open source software are impossible.
At least he's consistent?
Yup. I went to a presentation by him at my college a few months ago. Some of the stuff made sense, but there was the ultra-paranoia and his ridiculous overuse of buzzwords like iBad and Amazon Swindle. It got really tiring.
No wonder we hate the GPL license. Where's that stupid picture I posted back in LMAO Pics?
This guy's talking like video games are some sort of right or some shit. What a plonker!
[QUOTE=Chaotic Lord;36280147]"If I'm not making money on Linux, nobody can!"[/QUOTE] Not really. He's sticking to his philosophy. Steam is DRM, even if it is good. He supports free and open source software to the extreme. Steam essentially opposes that. It's not like anyone has to do what he says in this case anyways. And he can't stop Steam from coming to Linux anyways.
I really hate a lot of the Linux community for pretty much this reason. They act like if anybody besides Red Hat does commercial software, it's gonna be like Windows and every distro will be locked down or something. For a bunch of pretty smart guys, most of them are retarded.
Um... yeah. I get where he is coming from in a sense with respects to DRM, but going as far as to say you shouldn't support something that isn't free? Come one. The reason Steam users love steam, is because it's DRM that makes sense and works. Steams DRM solution doesn't really violate users, as far as I know anyhow.
I've noticed that the people who hate steam [I]really [/I]hate it.
[QUOTE]At least you avoid the harm to your freedom that Windows would do.[/QUOTE] What? I feel like I have enough "freedom" on my windows 7 computer, I may not have access to the source code but I don't need it, bit of theme customizations and that's enough to please me..
90% of the people who use Linux are saying "kiss my ass. I got good games on fucking Linux now."
[QUOTE=Funcoot;36280263]Um... yeah. I get where he is coming from in a sense with respects to DRM, but going as far as to say you shouldn't support something that isn't free? Come one. The reason Steam users love steam, is because it's DRM that makes sense and works. Steams DRM solution doesn't really violate users, as far as I know anyhow.[/QUOTE] I haven't had any problems with SteamDRM, to me it feels like a game management program. It gives you enough flexibility with offline mode and steam cloud makes it easier to not lose your game progress if say your computer dies or your friend has a computer you can use. Steam has yet to disappoint me
Also, the assumption that open source software cannot coexist in with closed source applications, is absurd. Open and closed applications on a open source operating system? Yes please.
also, related [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ_wXOFQV3M[/media]
Does steam respect your freedom?
Steam on Linux is a huge victory for Linux users who game, which is most Linux users. This paranoid fatass makes it sound like it's a horrible thing. I don't see any serious Linuz user taking him seriously.
His article kinda makes sense for a very few number of individuals but the platform is free as in freedom as he describes, anyone can do anything they want with it
I sort of get where he's coming from but the idea that programs ('information') should be free is stupid. It boils down to asking programmers/GUI artists/etc to work for free
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ[/media] That should pretty much sum up Richard Stallman for anyone who doesn't know.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;36280282]I've noticed that the people who hate steam [I]really [/I]hate it.[/QUOTE]Did you see the DNF forums just after they announced it had Steamworks, what a shitshow that was. Linky if anyone wants a good laugh: [url]http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=117553[/url]
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