• Richard Stallman, founder of the GNU project and champion of open source, is urging Linux users to N
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[QUOTE]Nonfree games (like other nonfree programs) are unethical because they deny freedom to their users. If you want freedom, one requisite for it is not having these games on your computer. That much is clear.[/QUOTE] You're living in a fantasy land, Mr. Stallman
More Stallman videos, if you can't tell he's the guy with the laptop. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pube5Aynsls[/media]
Most games that are made for free and open source purely for the enjoyment of others and the dev's "holier than thou" satisfaction are shit Money gets people to do stuff, the idea that everything should be free and open source is stupid in a capitalist society
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;36280311]also, related [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ_wXOFQV3M[/media][/QUOTE] I chuckled when he started his list with 0 Christ that's lame
he says freedom frequently enough to be a gop speechwriter
[QUOTE=froztshock;36280221]Not really. He's sticking to his philosophy. Steam is DRM, even if it is good. He supports free and open source software to the extreme. Steam essentially opposes that. It's not like anyone has to do what he says in this case anyways. And he can't stop Steam from coming to Linux anyways.[/QUOTE] It's almost as if you think what he's saying makes any sense
He's not serious right? Noone's that retarded right?
[QUOTE=Maloof?;36280350]I sort of get where he's coming from but the idea that programs ('information') should be free is stupid. It boils down to asking programmers/GUI artists/etc to work for free[/QUOTE] IIRC during his presentation he claimed that when he said free he was referring to freedoms, not actual price. Could be wrong, though. It was a while ago.
[QUOTE=Political Gamer;36280404]Did you see the DNF forums just after they announced it had Steamworks, what a shitshow that was.[/QUOTE] You should've seen the CivFantics forum when Civ V was going to be released on steamworks. They thought you had to install spyware(what they called steam) and you weren't allowed to use mods ever.
[QUOTE=Political Gamer;36280404]Did you see the DNF forums just after they announced it had Steamworks, what a shitshow that was.[/QUOTE] go on
[QUOTE=The Baconator;36280834]go on[/QUOTE] You don't need to take examples from DNF, just look at any game series where it wasn't on steam and then moved to steam, the forums for those games are always filled with people who oppose steam/never used it. Hell I heard even the latest football manager being steam only caused problems.
[QUOTE=VengfulSoldier;36280807]You should've seen the CivFantics forum when Civ V was going to be released on steamworks. They thought you had to install spyware(what they called steam) and you weren't allowed to use mods ever.[/QUOTE] reminds me of facepunch about bf3 and me3 [img]http://gamestatics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/originlogo.png[/img] omg spyware
[QUOTE=The Baconator;36280834]go on[/QUOTE][url]http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=117553[/url] Starts off ok but it gets ugly really quick.
[QUOTE=Loriborn;36280115]Right, so the moral of it is: "Anything that costs money doesn't support freedom. Me telling you not to use it supports freedom."[/QUOTE] One important thing to understand when he says free is open source, not free in cost. "Nonfree games" means games that you can't modify the source and compile yourself. It's really stupid to hold games to that standard because who honestly cares that much about games.
[QUOTE=Loriborn;36280115]Right, so the moral of it is: "Anything that costs money doesn't support freedom. Me telling you not to use it supports freedom."[/QUOTE] He is using free as in libre not free as in gratis. The suggestion is that anything that isn't open is bad for Linux. As long as people hold this belief Linux is never going to be a mainstream OS. Opensource and free software is great but people being paid do things a hell of a lot better, commercial closed source software and open source free software can co-exist on Linux happily. I support opensource software but that doesn't stop me buying software or games, it shouldn't stop anyone. His great idea that the entire world will eventually use free software is insane and will never happen.
[QUOTE=Clementine;36280720]It's almost as if you think what he's saying makes any sense[/QUOTE] No his ideas are unworkable and can't really ever happen on the scale he wants them to. I'm saying that it's not because he's jealous, as another poster suggests, but because he's sticking to his extreme philosophy.
[QUOTE=Loriborn;36280115]Right, so the moral of it is: "Anything that costs money doesn't support freedom. Me telling you not to use it supports freedom."[/QUOTE] no the moral of it is: Loriborn did not understand a single thing Stallman wrote. he's talking about open-source. you know, like that thing GNU is about? you know, it's in the fucking OP?
[QUOTE=thisispain;36281168]no the moral of it is: Loriborn did not understand a single thing Stallman wrote.[/QUOTE] how can you deduct that by reading the article? it says nothing about Loriborn
[QUOTE=Ordigenius;36281214]how can you deduct that by reading the article? it says nothing about Loriborn[/QUOTE] read between the lines man it said some wild shit about RichyZ too, alongside a great recipe for bubble and squeak.
what's up with this guy he's talking about windows and steam like they're cancer and only wearing the tinfoil hat of linux will keep it from growing on you
[QUOTE=thisispain;36281239]read between the lines man it said some wild shit about RichyZ too, alongside a great recipe for bubble and squeak.[/QUOTE] god i hate stallman, hes always writing about how "richyz had sexual relations with an 11 year old dog", hes been doing this shit for 3 years now hey asshole, i never fucked a dog
[QUOTE=RichyZ;36281065]reminds me of facepunch about bf3 and me3 [img]http://gamestatics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/originlogo.png[/img] omg spyware[/QUOTE] that's different, [at the time] there was actually evidence (later proved false or a hoax) that suggested it literally had spyware Labelling Steam as spyware was more of an opinion or ad hominem than actual behavior
[QUOTE=cccritical;36281362]what's up with this guy he's talking about windows and steam like they're cancer and only wearing the tinfoil hat of linux will keep it from growing on you[/QUOTE] jeez a person who has advocated open-source doesn't like windows or steam that's weird i can't figure that out either
[QUOTE=The Baconator;36281415]that's different, [at the time] there was actually evidence (later proved false or a hoax) that suggested it literally had spyware Labelling Steam as spyware was more of an opinion or ad hominem than actual behavior[/QUOTE] steam also looked at all of your shit, for the same reason origin did it
[QUOTE=Mingebox;36280282]I've noticed that the people who hate steam [I]really [/I]hate it.[/QUOTE] Steam killed, ate and raped my dog.
[QUOTE=Leather Belt;36280421]More Stallman videos, if you can't tell he's the guy with the laptop. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pube5Aynsls[/media][/QUOTE] Some serious swagga step the fuck back everybody
[QUOTE=Lambeth;36281619]Steam killed, ate and raped my dog.[/QUOTE] In that order? Impressive.
I support free and open source software as much as the next guy but I can't help but feel like Richard Stallman is a parody of himself.
Could someone get the title of this thread changed? [URL="https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Open"]"Open source" is not the correct term to use here[/URL]. Should be replaced with "free software".
[QUOTE=Lambeth;36281619]Steam killed, ate and raped my dog.[/QUOTE] It poisoned our water supply, burned our crops and delivered a plague unto our houses.
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