• Sex-changing treatment for kids on the rise
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[QUOTE=The Baconator;34810215]you don't wanna know[/QUOTE] Are they American?
[QUOTE=RobbL;34810296]Are they American?[/QUOTE] Yes, and sadly, there is almost an 'of course'
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[QUOTE=nekosune;34810366]Yes, and sadly, there is almost an 'of course'[/QUOTE] Ah ok, nevermind then [editline]22nd February 2012[/editline] Btw- one more opinion... Now I know I'm going to get a barrage of boxes but honesty I think transgenders have a tendency to be self entitled, especially when put in the context of people born with imo worse problems like horrible deformaties and what have you. I can appreciate that many transgenders go through terrible stuff, but I do feel that wherever I go the transgender brigade are riding on a giant hyperbole
[QUOTE=RobbL;34810435]Ah ok, nevermind then [editline]22nd February 2012[/editline] Btw- one more opinion... Now I know I'm going to get a barrage of boxes but honesty I think transgenders have a tendency to be self entitled, especially when put in the context of people born with imo worse problems like horrible deformaties and what have you. I can appreciate that many transgenders go through terrible stuff, but I do feel that wherever I go the transgender brigade are riding on a giant hyperbole[/QUOTE] I get the feeling you should watch your mouth lest you blurt out the blemish on humanity that is your brain. Seriously thats just a modified "Children in Africa" argument.
[QUOTE=RobbL;34810435]I can appreciate that many transgenders go through terrible stuff, but I do feel that wherever I go the transgender brigade are riding on a giant hyperbole[/QUOTE] It's probably best you stop. That's not something people need to hear.
[QUOTE=RobbL;34810435]Ah ok, nevermind then [editline]22nd February 2012[/editline] Btw- one more opinion... Now I know I'm going to get a barrage of boxes but honesty I think transgenders have a tendency to be self entitled, especially when put in the context of people born with imo worse problems like horrible deformaties and what have you. I can appreciate that many transgenders go through terrible stuff, but I do feel that wherever I go the transgender brigade are riding on a giant hyperbole[/QUOTE] by daring to mention they are going through horrible stuff too? yes, thats true, does it change transgender'd situation in any way that being true? no. Yes there is worse, there is also a lot more better things. Just because it is not the worst thing ever to happen, does not mean it is not horrible thing to go through.
I don't know why everyone's getting all worked up about this. While yes, some of the younger ones might be way too young, not all teenagers are immature enough to make this kind of decision.
[QUOTE=RobbL;34810435]Btw- one more opinion... Now I know I'm going to get a barrage of boxes but honesty I think transgenders have a tendency to be self entitled, especially when put in the context of people born with imo worse problems like horrible deformaties and what have you. I can appreciate that many transgenders go through terrible stuff, but I do feel that wherever I go the transgender brigade are riding on a giant hyperbole[/QUOTE] Do you ever read your posts through before submitting them to make sure they're not really dumb or potentially offensive? Cause if not then you should try doing that.
[QUOTE=thisispain;34783276]talk about being judgmental. maybe you guys should read-up on something before ejaculating and defecating your opinions?[/QUOTE] A lot of them are right though. :v: A child has no place making these kinds of decisions. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("History of threadshitting w/regard to transgender issues (3rd offense)" - Megafan))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;34813523]A lot of them are right though. :v: A child has no place making these kinds of decisions.[/QUOTE] You did not just post without reading the thread, did you? Seriously?
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;34813523]A lot of them are right though. :v: A child has no place making these kinds of decisions.[/QUOTE] oh jetblack ugh
[QUOTE=Megafan;34813546]You did not just post without reading the thread, did you? Seriously?[/QUOTE] Jetblack is worth ignoring in these threads. He admitted somewhere along the quote tree of [url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1162542?p=34657115&viewfull=1#post34657115]this[/url] post that he purposefully makes stupid posts because he finds it funny. Most specifically in [url=http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=34656968#post34656968]this[/url] post though.
[QUOTE=Onyx3173;34813583]Jetblack is worth ignoring in these threads. He admitted somewhere along the quote tree of [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1162542?p=34657115&viewfull=1#post34657115"]this[/URL] post that he purposefully makes stupid posts because he finds it funny. Most specifically in [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=34656968#post34656968"]this[/URL] post though.[/QUOTE] I could've guessed by the emoticon. He's out of line here.
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;34813523]A lot of them are right though. :v: A child has no place making these kinds of decisions.[/QUOTE] So you believe this child has no place in making the decision to be evaluated by a trained doctor to go through puberty blocking therapy when he begins to go through puberty.
[QUOTE=RobbL;34810435]Ah ok, nevermind then [editline]22nd February 2012[/editline] Btw- one more opinion... Now I know I'm going to get a barrage of boxes but honesty I think transgenders have a tendency to be self entitled, especially when put in the context of people born with imo worse problems like horrible deformaties and what have you. I can appreciate that many transgenders go through terrible stuff, but I do feel that wherever I go the transgender brigade are riding on a giant hyperbole[/QUOTE] Just because it [i]could[/i] be worse doesn't mean you can't complain.
As long as those kids are diagnosed with it by a proven procedure, I am ok with this.
[QUOTE=RobbL;34810435]Btw- one more opinion... Now I know I'm going to get a barrage of boxes but honesty I think transgenders have a tendency to be self entitled, especially when put in the context of people born with imo worse problems like horrible deformaties and what have you. I can appreciate that many transgenders go through terrible stuff, but I do feel that wherever I go the transgender brigade are riding on a giant hyperbole[/QUOTE] You know, there are studies that actually say transgender surgery is not an effective solution for many cases of gender identity disorder right? You don't have to say stupid things like this to fight it. Now you just look bad.
[QUOTE=Helix Alioth;34809733]It doesn't matter whether something has the potential "not to be correct" (I like how you use a bunch of prepositions to make your argument sound intelligent), what matters is what leads to more happiness and less depression. Allow me to break this down for you: If the child is allowed to decide her gender no permanent damage is made, if you seriously want to control what makes up someones personality you're moving into the category of thought police. If the child is allowed to start puberty suppression at ~8 no permanent damage is made, everything is only paused and puberty immediately starts progressing as soon as the medication is stopped. If the child is [b]not[/b] allowed to start puberty suppression at ~8 she will suffer from dysphoria of that which you can't even comprehend. If the child is allowed to start hormones at ~15 and has felt that she was in fact a she for a reasonable amount of time (something like 4 years) she'll be able to live as herself and stop a constant torture that spanned across ~13 years. If she regrets doing this once she's an adult she has bigger things to worry about than her appearance (sanity). If the child is [b]not[/b] allowed to start hormones and she truly is a she, she'll be depressed, anxious, socially isolated, and suicidal, with the chances of suicide increasing over time.[/QUOTE] It's two years over here in Canada.
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;34816539]You know, there are studies that actually say transgender surgery is not an effective solution for many cases of gender identity disorder right? You don't have to say stupid things like this to fight it. Now you just look bad.[/QUOTE] I'd like some source on this bullshit you're spewing
In the future, we will manufacture female bodies; And they will be able to implant their conciousness in to them.
Not that you guys care but it seems Reddit doesn't like you [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/TransphobiaProject/comments/py1zg/facepunch_thread_on_transgendered_children/[/url]
oh no a random subreddit posted a link to this thread what ever will we do
reddit being dumb?? wow how can that even happen
They're right though, there was a boatload of bigoted horseshit sprayed around this thread. jussayin~
[QUOTE=Moupi;34843983]reddit being dumb?? wow how can that even happen[/QUOTE] How are they being dumb at all? I think that's a pretty legit reaction to the stupid transphobia going on in these threads.
[QUOTE=Moupi;34843983]reddit being dumb?? wow how can that even happen[/QUOTE] Yeah you totally have weight on your opinion that someone else is dumb when you post things like [QUOTE=Moupi;34784297]does gender identity really matter that much? i kind of have a difficult time imagining sex matters THAT much to people. i guess this implies a bit more than sex, but i can't believe gender plays such a big role to people. i mean i am a boy but if i were to become a GURL i really wouldn't care apart from having a yoohoo. i don't know the notion of caring about your gender just strikes me as a bit useless[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=QueenSasha24;34844294]How are they being dumb at all? I think that's a pretty legit reaction to the stupid transphobia going on in these threads.[/QUOTE] As posted, have even had the usual slippery slope of "Well then i want to be a train" posted to the exact word.
[QUOTE=nekosune;34847676]As posted, have even had the usual slippery slope of "Well then i want to be a train" posted to the exact word.[/QUOTE] But people in those threads did use those fallacies, I fail to see how it's dumb to bring that up? It's a ridiculous argument.
[QUOTE=QueenSasha24;34855571]But people in those threads did use those fallacies, I fail to see how it's dumb to bring that up? It's a ridiculous argument.[/QUOTE] I was agreeeing with you. saying the thread here was full of transphobia. including that fallacy.
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