• Trump doubles down on "both sides to blame" in Charlottesville
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[quote]In a statement on Monday, he had condemned white supremacists. But in New York on Tuesday he also blamed left-wing supporters for charging at the "alt-right". He also defended the time it took to make his statement, saying he had wanted to establish all the facts. Mr Trump had been accused over the weekend of failing to condemn the far-right specifically. [b]"When you say alt-right..."[/b] Mr Trump said in an exchange with a reporter, using a term for right-wing groups. [b]"Okay, what about the alt-left that came charging at... the alt-right? Do they have any semblance of guilt? What about the fact that they came charging... with clubs in their hands?"[/b] Right-wing groups had been protesting against the removal of a statue of Robert E Lee, a general on the pro-slavery Confederate side during the American Civil War. Mr Trump's remarks were welcomed by David Duke, a former leader of the Ku Klux Klan, who tweeted: "Thank you President Trump for your honesty & courage to tell the truth about #Charlottesville & condemn the leftist terrorists in BLM/Antifa."[/quote] [quote]On Monday, Donald Trump's condemnation of the far-right came from advisers counselling him on what was politically necessary to defuse the growing storm following the Charlottesville violence. On Tuesday, the president said what he really thought. Although he initially explained away the delay in condemnations of white supremacists as necessary for him to gather "the facts" of the situation, the nature of the protests were quite evident by the evening before, when demonstrators chanting white supremacist slogans held a torchlight parade through Charlottesville. In any regard, Mr Trump has shown little reluctance in jumping to conclusions about violent incidents when it appears Islamic extremism is at play. Upon further questioning, it became clear that the president views the Charlottesville unrest as far from a one-sided affair. Mixed in among the white supremacists, he said, were some good, peaceful people protesting the removal of a statue (of a man who led an army against the US government). And there were plenty of violent individuals among the counter-protesters as well.[/quote] [url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40943425]Source: The BBC[/url] Can never truly get a step forward from this man. Watch the video of Trump speaking in the article, it's horrible.
I've already had somebody ask me this question so... No, America. You're not a laughing stock to the rest of us. Frankly, this stopped being funny a [I]long[/I] time ago.
Afraid of losing his remaining voter-base.
Can't say I'm surprised in the least. Trump's a moron. And what the fuck is the "alt-left"? I've heard this term a handful of times now but as far as I know it's not even an actual thing unlike the alt-right.
He's defending nazis. He's actually full-blown defending nazis. I don't even have a witty remark for this because... holy shit.
this is what validating extremists looks like
guys it's just SO HARD to denounce literal fucking enemies to democracy
Literal Nazi apologist
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;52577150]Afraid of losing his remaining voter-base.[/QUOTE] I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking this. Since election day, he can only go down. Now he's grasping at straws.
Can we stop pretending he isnt a white supremacist and apologist now
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;52577149]I've already had somebody ask me this question so... No, America. You're not a laughing stock to the rest of us. Frankly, this stopped being funny a [I]long[/I] time ago.[/QUOTE] Please help us. We're not all retarded here Please send help.
This man is an enemy of this country. Fuck him.
I like how the BBC article is pulling no punches, only stopping short of simply stating that he's defending Nazis...but that's totally just socialist propaganda or something amirite
[QUOTE=Alice3173;52577152]And what the fuck is the "alt-left"? I've heard this term a handful of times now but as far as I know it's not even an actual thing unlike the alt-right.[/QUOTE] Antifa?
[QUOTE=Judas;52577178]Can we stop pretending he isnt a [B]white supremacist[/B] and apologist now[/QUOTE] A white supremacist? nah. I don't think so. An apologist for the right-wing beliefs and people who are highly on the right? Definitely.
The fucking PRESIDENT is [I]literally [/I][B]defending nazis[/B]. What the actual everliving fuck.
Ya blew it
[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;52577214]A white supremacist? nah. I don't think so. An apologist for the right-wing beliefs and people who are highly on the right? Definitely.[/QUOTE] white supremacy is a right-wing belief?
[QUOTE=Judas;52577178]Can we stop pretending he isnt a white supremacist and apologist now[/QUOTE] At this point it's kinda like continuing to insist "he's totally pro-LGBT, don't you worry!" [QUOTE=Godzillan;52577204]Antifa?[/QUOTE] Antifa is... Antifa though? Why call them alt-left? Everyone already knows them as Antifa and most people already view Antifa negatively. Creating some random alternative term for them just confuses people.
[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;52577214]A white supremacist? nah. I don't think so. An apologist for the right-wing beliefs and people who are highly on the right? Definitely.[/QUOTE] It says something that the Right Wing in America is so desperate for support they'll stand with Nazis if it means fucking over the left.
He compared the taking down of Confederate statues to the taking down of statues of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson. He literally has no fucking clue what the Confederacy even was
also: nazis are murdering people in the streets and the president is defending their actions publicly he hasnt even been in office a year and this is where we are now
Kinda surprised the majoroty of the FP Bigot Brigade hasn't slithered out of the woodwork to try ans justify this.
Trump showing his true colours and agenda. This is the man who ran his whole campaign on hatred and extreme nationalism, who appointed white nationalists to WH jobs and cut all funding to tasks regarding white nationalist terror cells. This man doesn't try to hide it, he is 100% someone who's allied himself to fucking nazis.
Nothing suprising here, just a bigot justifying the actions of bigots. [QUOTE=Action Frank;52577277]Kinda surprised the majoroty of the FP Bigot Brigade hasn't slithered out of the woodwork to try ans justify this.[/QUOTE] Give it time, we'll be 10 pages in aruging about it by this time tomorrow most like.
Just waiting for Trump to start saying lugenpresse
[QUOTE=Action Frank;52577277]Kinda surprised the majoroty of the FP Bigot Brigade hasn't slithered out of the woodwork to try ans justify this.[/QUOTE] Most of them haven't been able to resist posting something racist and getting banned for it.
[QUOTE=Action Frank;52577277]Kinda surprised the majoroty of the FP Bigot Brigade hasn't slithered out of the woodwork to try ans justify this.[/QUOTE] Well Trump already gave the meat of their argument which is "but the left tho"
[QUOTE=artDecor;52577227]white supremacy is a right-wing belief?[/QUOTE] Yes, But someone who is right-wing is not necessarily a white supremacist. The more someone is right-wing and leaning towards authority the more chances of them following ideologies that consist of more authority and beliefs of social hierarchy. A political compass generally shows how extreme can someone get in left and right, authoritarianism and libertarianism.
This is some serious scientist-baffling shit though, literally all he had to do was say 'Nazis are bad' and shut his mouth, and he's fucked it up multiple times
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