• F-22 Pilots Don’t Want to Fly the F-22
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[QUOTE] Some of the nation's 200 F-22 Raptor pilots want to be moved into other jobs because of oxygen-deficit problems with the stealth fighter, an Air Force leader said Monday. Gen. Mike Hostage, commander of Air Combat Command at Langley Air Force Base in Hampton, Va., told reporters that a "very small" number of pilots have asked not to fly the fifth-generation fighter jets or to be reassigned. "Obviously it's a very sensitive thing because we are trying to ensure that the community fully understands all that we're doing to try to get to a solution," Hostage said. He did not provide exact figures on the number of pilots who have asked to not fly the jets and said each pilot's request would be handled individually. Air Force officials believe the airplane is safe to fly — Hostage noted that he'll fly soon because he won't ask a pilot to do something that he will not. "I'm going to check out and fly the airplane so I can understand exactly what it is they're dealing with. The day we figure out what the problem is I will stop flying (the plane) because we don't have enough sorties for all of our combat aviators to get as much training as they need," he said. The nation's F-22 fighter jets were grounded for four months last year after pilots complained of experiencing a lack of oxygen that can cause dizziness and blackouts. Air Force officials said they have taken steps against the problem, but still haven't pinpointed what's causing the hypoxia-like symptoms. Hypoxia is when the body doesn't receive enough oxygen. An Air Force panel is meeting weekly to investigate the problem and has enlisted the help of NASA and the Navy to learn more about what happens to the body under extreme conditions, among other things. Hostage spoke during a media day event at the base, highlighting the nation's most advanced fighter plane. After being introduced in 2005, the last of nearly 190 jets are scheduled to be delivered to the Air Force this week. At a price tag of $143 million each, the Raptor has come under some criticism for not being used in place of older and less-sophisticated jets in Iraq or Afghanistan. Hostage said the plane is critical to maintaining the nation's air superiority in the future and that he wishes he had more of the jets at his disposal. On Monday, Iran's defense minister said that reports of the stealth fighter jet being deployed to the United Arab Emirates would damage regional security, the semiofficial ISNA news agency reported. Without saying which country in the region the F-22s were deployed to — or which base or bases they were deployed from — Hostage said there's a reason other nations take note of the plane's movements. "People pay attention to where this airplane goes and what it does because, regardless of the furor in our press and public about the suitability or the safety of the airplane, they're very worried about its capability. That, to me, means we're on the right path with this capability," he said. The planes are stationed at five other bases besides Virginia: Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson, Alaska; Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam, Hawaii; Nellis Air Force Base, Nev.; Holloman Air Force Base, N.M.; and Tyndall Air Force Base, Fla.[/QUOTE] [url]http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/air-force-leader-pilots-avoid-22-16246581#.T6DuMqsthUS[/url]
Well it seems like the popularity of the f-22 among pilots is hitting some [i]turbulence[/i] [IMG]https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTMcWdeccpFou1InYAjfSWNo-kLeZ8Ca1BSzTuDN1qssJCsbgaF2A[/IMG] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Meme" - verynicelady))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=zakedodead;35792597]Well it seems like the popularity of the f-22 among pilots is hitting some [i]turbulence[/i] [/QUOTE] well it seems like you're about to get [I]banned[/I] [img]http://edge.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/98885/934638.jpg[/img] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Meme - not learning from previous bans for this" - verynicelady))[/highlight]
Actually, no it [i]doesn't[/i] [editline]2nd May 2012[/editline] [IMG]https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTMcWdeccpFou1InYAjfSWNo-kLeZ8Ca1BSzTuDN1qssJCsbgaF2A[/IMG]
This sounds like a serious [i]problem[/i]. [IMG]https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTMcWdeccpFou1InYAjfSWNo-kLeZ8Ca1BSzTuDN1qssJCsbgaF2A[/IMG] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Meme" - verynicelady))[/highlight]
What a bunch of [b]Queers[/b]
It's like it was built by the lowest bidder or something.
[QUOTE=Pace.;35792611]well it seems like you're about to get [I]banned[/I] [img]http://edge.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/98885/934638.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Check the rules thread, puns are fine again. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Puns yes, quoting memes - no" - verynicelady))[/highlight]
Shut up Austin Powers.
sounds like i will stay in the [b]other sections of the forum, from now[/b]
[QUOTE=zakedodead;35792597]Well it seems like the popularity of the f-22 among pilots is hitting some [i]turbulence[/i] [IMG]https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTMcWdeccpFou1InYAjfSWNo-kLeZ8Ca1BSzTuDN1qssJCsbgaF2A[/IMG][/QUOTE] I never get tired of seeing Mike Myers face. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Quoted meme image" - verynicelady))[/highlight]
Typical FPers, the moment they get their way they piss hubris everywhere with the force of a fucking fire hose
[QUOTE=CheeseMan;35792738]Typical FPers, the moment they get their way they piss hubris everywhere with the force of a fucking fire hose[/QUOTE] Typical people. Of course when the pun rule is removed people will post mad puns in a thread or two as "celebration". It dies down over time.
[QUOTE=Jsm;35792640]Check the rules thread, puns are fine again.[/QUOTE] my bad sorry dude
You would think that the Air Force would be able to make oxygen delivery systems by now.
[QUOTE=SKEEA;35792930]You would think that the Air Force would be able to make oxygen delivery systems by now.[/QUOTE] By Air Force you mean Lockheed Martin, right?
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;35792697]sounds like i will stay in the [B]other sections of the forum, from now[/B][/QUOTE] wow so those shitty pun posts actually achieved something good Also you would have thought the person flying the thing getting oxygen would have been a top priority when it comes to aircraft design
[QUOTE=][IMG]https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTMcWdeccpFou1InYAjfSWNo-kLeZ8Ca1BSzTuDN1qssJCsbgaF2A[/IMG][/QUOTE] [URL="http://facepunch.com/threads/777367"]Ahh this takes me back.[/URL] [sp]This is the thread that caused the whole Austin Powers fiasco.[/sp] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Quoted meme image" - verynicelady))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=SKEEA;35792930]You would think that the Air Force would be able to make oxygen delivery systems by now.[/QUOTE] This might not be a problem with the oxygen delivery. "An Air Force panel is meeting weekly to investigate the problem and has enlisted the help of NASA and the Navy to learn more about what happens to the body under extreme conditions, among other things." This suggests that it might be a design or manufacturing flaw in the aircraft. It might have to do with the forces that the body is put under when the aircraft is flying. Just because the symptoms are related to lack of oxygen doesn't mean that the pilot isn't [I]inhaling[/I] enough oxygen, only that their brain is not getting the oxygen it needs. These things happen when a pilot tries to make too sharp of a turn as well(since all the vertical G's push the blood towards the legs). Also, since this is a few pilots(versus a majority of pilots) complaining, it might be inferred that the problem lies in the individuals(maybe their body is pre-disposed to a certain phenomena that we were previously ignorant of), or it's a problem in the individual planes(like a defect that went undetected). Right now they don't seem to know much, so it really could be anything. However, I don't think the aircraft itself is ill-designed as far as oxygen delivery systems go. At least not necessarily.
General [I]Hostage?[/I] Not the best name for a high ranking official. "Name's Hostage" 'A HOSTAGE? WHERE??' "Its me, dumbass!" 'DON'T WORRY SIR, I'LL GET YOU TO SAFETY'
[QUOTE=ReligiousNutjob;35793454][URL="http://facepunch.com/threads/777367"]Ahh this takes me back.[/URL] [sp]This is the thread that caused the whole Austin Powers fiasco.[/sp][/QUOTE] Oh lordy, those where the days.
Hahaha, it's the closest thing we have to a real life X-wing and our best pilots don't want anything to do with it. "Sure, it's awesome, but I don't want to fucking suffocate."
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;35792637]It's like it was built by the lowest bidder or something.[/QUOTE] Welcome to the wonderful world of defence procurement.
[QUOTE=Jsm;35792640]Check the rules thread, puns are fine again.[/QUOTE] And sensationalist headlines rejoiced! [editline]2nd May 2012[/editline] Like whacking it after having a month long erection
[QUOTE=mac338;35794170]And sensationalist headlines rejoiced! [editline]2nd May 2012[/editline] Like whacking it after having a month long erection[/QUOTE] so it lasts like 10 seconds and [del]jizz[/del] rate funny everywhere?
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;35794359]so it lasts like 10 seconds and [del]jizz[/del] rate funny everywhere?[/QUOTE] So it semen.
[QUOTE=mac338;35794366]So it semen.[/QUOTE] At first glans that didn't make much sense.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;35794372]At first glans that didn't make much sense.[/QUOTE] Not all jokes are as [B]plane [/B]as day.
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;35794382]Not all jokes are as [B]plane [/B]as day.[/QUOTE] Not catching them can be such a drag.
Well I do have too say those F-22 are rather [I]breath taking.[/I]
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