• Russian company selling cargo container-launched cruise missiles to Iran, Venezuela
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[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/7632543/A-cruise-missile-in-a-shipping-box-on-sale-to-rogue-bidders.html[/url] [release][img]http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01623/Rocket_1_1623334c.jpg[/img] [QUOTE]Club - K container missile system. Stills from an animated film being used to market a missile system that allows cruise missles to be launched from a freight container. This can be loaded onto a lorry, ship, or train as desired to move into position before launching missiles.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqwMzQiXlK0[/media] Defence experts are warning of a new danger of ballistic weapons proliferation after a Russian company started marketing a cruise missile that can be launched from a shipping container. It is feared that the covert Club-K missile attack system could prove "game-changing" in fighting wars with small countries, which would gain a remote capacity to mount multiple missiles on boats, trucks or railways. Iran and Venezuela have already shown an interest in the Club-K Container Missile System which could allow them to carry out pre-emptive strikes from behind an enemy's missile defences. Defence experts say the system is designed to be concealed as a standard 40ft shipping container that cannot be identified until it is activated. Priced at an estimated £10 million, each container is fitted with four cruise anti-ship or land attack missiles. The system represents an affordable "strategic level weapon". Some experts believe that if Iraq had the Club-K system in 2003 it would have made it impossible for America to invade with any container ship in the Gulf a potential threat. Club-K is being marketed at the Defence Services Asia exhibition in Malaysia this week. Novator, the manufacturer, is an advanced missile specialist that would not have marketed the system without Moscow's approval. It has released an emotive marketing film complete with dramatic background music. It shows Club-K containers stowed on ships, trucks and trains as a neighbouring country prepares to invade with American style military equipment. The enemy force is wiped out by the cruise missile counter attack. Russia has already prompted concern in Washington by selling Iran the sophisticated S-300 anti-aircraft missile system that would make targeting of Iranian nuclear facilities very difficult. "This Club-K is game changing with the ability to wipe out an aircraft carrier 200 miles away. The threat is immense in that no one can tell how far deployed your missiles could be," said Robert Hewson, editor of Jane's Air-Launched Weapons, who first reported on the Club-K developments. "What alerted me to this was that the Russians were advertising it at specific international defence event and they have marketed it very squarely at anyone under threat of action from the US." Reuben Johnson, a Pentagon defence consultant, said the system would be a "real maritime fear for anyone with a waterfront". "This is ballistic missile proliferation on a scale we have not seen before because now you cannot readily identify what's being used as a launcher because it's very carefully disguised. "Someone could sail off your shore looking innocuous then the next minute big explosions are going off at your military installations."[/release] :ohdear:
This doesn't mean that technology in Aegis-style systems will not improve to meet modern threats such as this. Also, the concept isn't that mind-blowingly new. The US Air Force planned to put all of their MX nuclear missiles onto disguised railcars by the mid 1990s, but we all know what prevented that from happening. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/Peacekeeper_Rail_Garrison_Car_-_Dayton_-_kingsley_-_12-29-08.jpg/800px-Peacekeeper_Rail_Garrison_Car_-_Dayton_-_kingsley_-_12-29-08.jpg[/img]
This seems really unfair.
[QUOTE=Tac Error;21583930]This doesn't mean that technology in Aegis-style systems will not improve to meet modern threats such as this.[/QUOTE] Imagine this: <Random group of baddies> puts 3 or 4 of these systems on a container ship and gets a hundred or so miles off of NYC, say. You could have a huge disaster on your hands. 9/11 would be a joke.
That is a pretty fucking awesome system for small countries. [editline]09:45AM[/editline] [QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21583988]Imagine this: <Random group of baddies> puts 3 or 4 of these systems on a container ship and gets a hundred or so miles off of NYC, say. You could have a huge disaster on your hands. 9/11 would be a joke.[/QUOTE] This too. Russia controls the satellites though, so anyone that wanted to fire anything would have to do so at Russia's approval.
Pirates of the Caribbean music :dance: I should buy one of these for my back yard. stop giving me boxes, I need cargo containers.
[QUOTE=SeamanStains;21584010]That is a pretty fucking awesome system for small countries. [editline]09:45AM[/editline] This too. Russia controls the sattelites though, so anyone that wanted to fire anything would have to do so at Russia's approval.[/QUOTE] I didn't know that satellites were involved in cruise missile launches.
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21584114]I didn't know that satellites were involved in cruise missile launches.[/QUOTE] Skip to about 4:05 on the video, I think that shows the Command Modules need a Satellite to tell them where to shoot.
To be honest, the video was rather well made. Even with the over-used music it was put in such a way it felt quite epic :v:
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21583988]Imagine this: <Random group of baddies> puts 3 or 4 of these systems on a container ship and gets a hundred or so miles off of NYC, say. You could have a huge disaster on your hands. 9/11 would be a joke.[/QUOTE] Using the same principle if they got hold of USS Iowa and were off the coast of Florida they could also too fuck shit up.
and giant hidden holes in the ground that spew missiles aren't more scary?
nope
[QUOTE=ThePunisher1;21585071]Using the same principle if they got hold of USS Iowa and were off the coast of Florida they could also too fuck shit up.[/QUOTE] Except this is a lot easier to acquire than a US warship.
[img]http://wpsmedia.latimes.com/image/backlot/2008/11/22/2012_Zlatko_Buric/2012-116-large.jpg[/img] [I]It's Russian.[/I] Seriously though, what could go wrong if Russia had to approve of any launch?
Command and conquer generals music, too? Hah.
[QUOTE=Tinter;21585213][img]http://wpsmedia.latimes.com/image/backlot/2008/11/22/2012_Zlatko_Buric/2012-116-large.jpg[/img] [I]It's Russian.[/I] Seriously though, what could go wrong if Russia had to approve of any launch?[/QUOTE] The funny thing is that plane is actually Ukrainian.
The video was like watching a C&C generals cutscene [editline]12:20PM[/editline] with pirates of the carribean music
[QUOTE=SBD;21585550]The funny thing is that plane is actually Ukrainian.[/QUOTE] Soviet Russian. It just rolls off the tongue better to say "It's Russian".
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[QUOTE=DarkWolf2;21584555]To be honest, the video was rather well made. Even with the over-used music it was put in such a way it felt quite epic :v:[/QUOTE] Indeed.
Naturally they're attacking NATO forces. Does Russia portray the US as the bad guys in games and movies as we do them?
When I read the title, I thought a Russian company selling cargo containers launched a cruise missile to Iran and Venezuela. [editline]02:04PM[/editline] Also, TimeSplitters?
I laughed at the C&C Generals music.
I think it's a pretty cool idea. A perfect way to conceal the missiles. Except now there is an excuse to scuttle every freighter in a cruise missile's radius. Just one thing: A truck can be stopped. Usually, a train can be too. But a ship can't control waves - it would often be rocking left and right, so the missile would have to cope with weird angles at launch time.
[QUOTE=Tinter;21585664]Soviet Russian. It just rolls off the tongue better to say "It's Russian".[/QUOTE] Hold on, I just wikied it. It's not even a real Antonov design, but my point still stands. Antonov is Ukrainian not Russian, Soviet or otherwise.
[QUOTE=Nikita;21586120]I think it's a pretty cool idea. A perfect way to conceal the missiles. Except now there is an excuse to scuttle every freighter in a cruise missile's radius.[/QUOTE] [img]http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/emma-maersk-underway.jpeg[/img] :v:
haha, eat that america.
[QUOTE=BloodYScar;21587215]haha, eat that america.[/QUOTE] Haha I can't wait for potential thousands of American citizens who hold no quarrel with me to die! Wow! That'll be great! Oh boy!
[QUOTE=thedekoykid;21586097]I laughed at the C&C Generals music.[/QUOTE] I love that tune need to find it.
[QUOTE=SeamanStains;21584010]That is a pretty fucking awesome system for small countries. [editline]09:45AM[/editline] This too. Russia controls the satellites though, so anyone that wanted to fire anything would have to do so at Russia's approval.[/QUOTE] okay. good... and so far we know Russia is okay with America. I think we should be super best buddies so there is no fucking way they could be used against us. plus Russia is awesome.
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