• "Everyone has lied to me, everyone has deceived me," Recently disclosed dox show Hitler mental deter
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[QUOTE=Mike42012;38205139]2b) It does when the idea is implied to mean the metaphorical adherence to all criterion, such as empathy. You cannot be empathic towards one person and not another, to do so is to not be empathic.[/QUOTE] you're KIDDING right
It's quite amusing how we get compassionate comments in a thread about Adolf Hitler, but in any thread relating to gypsies, other minorities, criminals, Justin Bieber etc.; suddenly the pool of compassion dries up faster than a woman's vagina upon seeing a brony convention.
[QUOTE=YourFriendJoe;38201497]It's really sad because if you forget the whole "holocaust" thing Hitler was just like any other person. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=smeismastger;38201635]The way people demonize Hitler is just absurd[/QUOTE] Fuck this section I'm out
You guys legitimately feel sorry for a mental breakdown of a war criminal responsible for the deaths of millions based on their ethnicity?
[QUOTE=David29;38201203]England and Germany were bros really.[/QUOTE] Sarcasm or you're joking?
[QUOTE=znk666;38205636]You guys legitimately feel sorry for a mental breakdown of a war criminal responsible for the deaths of millions based on their ethnicity?[/QUOTE] As much as I try to feel sorry for any other human-being, not easy but I and I'm sure many others do try. Can't just put values and limits on who and what deserves empathy or sympathy or human compassion. I guess it really comes back to your personality, I try to love everyone, others aren't as caring and that's totally understandable. Of course, you can also use the argument that by seeing them as sub-human you're kind of being like them in the sense of judging others and no-longer valuing their lives simply because of things they have done or you perceive. Which to be fair none of us are mini-Hitlers, but I rather not share an apathy for human-life.
[QUOTE=Kalibos;38203401]*shrug* I don't care it's hitler after all[/QUOTE] ~so edgy & cool~
No fucks given I hope he suffered immensely before that pussy fuck offed himself
[QUOTE=XanaToast.;38201207]kind of odd, but he sent Hess to negotiate peace terms with the UK in 1941, although he got captured[/QUOTE] I thought Hess did that on his own, against Hitler's wishes. [quote=Wikipedia]Hitler granted Hess' wife a pension but stripped Hess of all of his party and state offices, and privately ordered him shot on sight if he ever returned to Germany.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Winters;38202496]He was still a human being yo, I'm not saying this doesn't make him a horrible fucking killer. I'm just saying it's sad to see a human being waist away into nothingness, any human.[/QUOTE] No, it's not sad. He orchestrated the deaths of millions people, and indirectly caused the death's of many, many more millions. If you say shit like this it's like you literally do not understand what he did. He deserved everything that he got, and even got off easy. Incredibly easy.
[QUOTE=FrankOfArabia;38202167]So he was a cowardly, somewhat mental, twisted, insecure, illogical idiot with a penchant for speaking but not so much strategy. That honestly speaks wonders. Hitler was just an idiot.[/QUOTE] Indeed, I wouldn't be surprised if many of his actions were just part of a superiority complex to compensate for an inferiority complex developed due to his true idiocy. I'll bet he had, in CBT terms, several Early Maladaptive Schemas. A lot of politicians even today seem to view themselves as superior to others.
[QUOTE=Disgruntled;38202127]I think I remember hearing somewhere that the "killing Jews" thing was more ordered by Himmler or somesuch. I'm probably wrong, though.[/QUOTE] Himmler said that Goebbels had an irrational hatred towards jewish people, and Goebbels and Hitler would have hour long late night conversations.
Whilst I disagree with Nazism and Hitler's Regime, I think a fair, single-party dictatorship would probably be the best way to run the world these days. All wars ended. Entire military budget for every country (trillions) redistributed into balancing the worlds impoverished areas, funding growth and development in order to sustain the entire populace, and then put into research, science, space exploration, etc. Political ideology formed which is allows for corporation and competition to thrive, much is poured into entrepreneurs and budgets are allocated for new employers and competitors which drives technology forward on multiple levels, from agriculture all the way up to high-tech industry. Nation-states granted control over their individual areas to best develop and improve them, as they are essentially only diplomats, no unfair distribution of governmental wealth can form (ie owner of country buys thousands of cars whilst people suffer). Oil and food prices equalised, and the monopolistic nature of acquiring these products is reduced via government share purchasing/ company takeover. Jobseekers allowance (the dole) is removed, and replaced with a token system, and seeing as jobs are now rife, contribution to society is recommended and encouraged. Re-education and education at up to university level is now open to anyone over 25, free of charge, provided they can show a high level of interest in the target subject, a genuine interest to learn and improve, and some suitable skills in a similar field (self taught included). Well-equipped universal police force formed, focus on eradicating terrorism, cell and cult behaviours from arising. Racism, hate crime, belief/religiously-motivated crimes are treated with priority - punishment is replaced with rehabilitation with a focus on breaking down these shitty beliefs and replacing it with a knowledge of self and the formation of beliefs. It would be very easy to derive a test for if people 'got it'. I truly believe that if you entirely demolish someone's belief system they can come from any walk of life, be it the most dogmatic, unfortunate and aggressive circumstances - and leave as well-informed and contributing members of society. People have the choice of giving their kids up when they're born and enrol them in a facility, for 16 years, at no cost, which allows for absolutely equal treatment regardless of race/ skin colour, no chance of bullying forming, an incredibly high level of education, and exposure to all forms of art, music, expression, and a knowledge of beliefs similar to the one granted to the people in rehab. Kids in this facility would choose everything for themselves, including their own names, from the moment they are well versed in linguistics - as well as the subject areas they specialize in. After this stage, graduating students from the facility would be granted specialist roles in society of their choice. Racist families, religious fundamentalists/ extremists, violent or abusive people and other terribly negative or damning people would be offered a straightener programme, designed to get their lives back on track in the most efficient way, staying in a treatment/relaxation facility designed specifically for this purpose, with utmost care and comfort. Failure to attend the program, and continued aggressive behavior would most likely lead to imprisonment and rehabilitation. Damage to society and other people would be mitigated, with people directly affected by a persons negative behavior offered treatment, rehabilitation and relaxation at a facility for as long as they require. People with mental issues would also be offered a programme designed to help them get their lives back on track in the most efficient way, also staying in a treatment/relaxation facility designed for this purpose, with utmost care and comfort. Whilst religion would still be 'permitted' - it would be seen for what it is, a set of beliefs established to help people live their lives, nothing more. 'Truth' found in religion would be linked to a greater understanding of nature present in all religions - not the 'Faux Truths' - such as taking The Bible literally and word-for-word (which is contradictory, I can explain further if necessary). With the world government formed, quality of life for everyone would be improved, technology would fly forward at an unprecedented rate, and soon enough, space exploration would be the next step for humanity.
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this thread is unbelievable facepunch: nazi dictatorship of neckbeards since 2006
[QUOTE=WhatAmI;38206171]this thread is unbelievable facepunch: nazi dictatorship of neckbeards since 2006[/QUOTE] I'm more concerned with the apparent ignorance towards basic pre-WW2 history.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38201626]No it wasn't. The German economy had recovered and the Extremist Communist and Nazi parties were suffering from a loss of support until the great depression came along.[/QUOTE] Yeah, and the Great Depression caused the Nazis to get support leading to WW2. But what caused the Great Depression to hurt Germany even more? The Treaty of Versailles.
I'm surprised that this thread isn't full to the brim with the usual posts retroactively attempting to paint(heh) Hitler as some sort of tactical genius and artist extraordinaire.
[QUOTE=Cathedral;38206264]I'm surprised that this thread isn't full to the brim with the usual posts retroactively attempting to paint(heh) Hitler as some sort of tactical genius and artist extraordinaire.[/QUOTE] Nope, instead it's full of people trying to paint him (heh) as some sort of tortured misunderstood soul who deserves our sympathy because he got a bit upset before he killed himself.
[QUOTE=jaykray;38206306]Nope, instead it's full of people trying to paint him (heh) as some sort of tortured misunderstood soul who deserves our sympathy because he got a bit upset before he killed himself.[/QUOTE] Baby steps.
[QUOTE=Hellborg 65;38206243]Yeah, and the Great Depression caused the Nazis to get support leading to WW2. But what caused the Great Depression to hurt Germany even more? The Treaty of Versailles.[/QUOTE] What hurt Germany in the Depression was that all the countries that had been providing economic assistance suddenly stopped and even asked for Germany to immediately re-pay the loans they had given it. These loans were not given to Germany because of ToV, Germany's economy was terrible because they never paid for anything in the First World War as they were sure they would have won. They borrowed money and inflated their economy. After the war, much of their export markets were no longer open and so had an even harder time. But even through all this, in the mid-20's their economy had recovered to 1913 levels and was continuing to improve with American backed loans. The Treaty of Versailles did not cause WW2, saying it does is hugely over-simplifying everything that happened from the end of the war till 1933. If you want a basic reason for why Hitler took over Germany it is that the left-wing parties didn't form a coalition against him as the communists hated the moderate SPD due to being backstabbed in 1919. If they had formed a coalition then the Nazi's would not have gained power. You really shouldn't sympathise with Germany over the Treaty of Versailles, be sure, if Germany had won, they would given us extremely harsh terms due to how they handled their economy during the war, also shown in how they treated the Russians in 1917.
[QUOTE=WhatAmI;38206171]this thread is unbelievable facepunch: nazi dictatorship of neckbeards since 2006[/QUOTE] [URL]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1221207&p=38206050&viewfull=1#post38206050[/URL] Why dumb? I don't care about the rating, I just want to hear an actual answer/ opinion/ argument from you on my ideology, so I can better understand why someone would not want it.
[QUOTE=jaykray;38206306]Nope, instead it's full of people trying to paint him (heh) as some sort of tortured misunderstood soul who deserves our sympathy because he got a bit upset before he killed himself.[/QUOTE] But he was. Just like Assad, Qaddafi and all the dictators in the world. Innocent misguided souls that should absolutely not be held responsible for anything they've done. They were all betrayed *cry*
I feel sorry for the child that Hitler once was, he had a shit childhood and it messed him up for life but what he did later on in life was his choice and he did some fucked up shit.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;38206363]But he was. Just like Assad, Qaddafi and all the dictators in the world. Innocent misguided souls that should absolutely not be held responsible for anything they've done. They were all betrayed *cry*[/QUOTE] QQaddafi, AssSAD, SADdam, Osama Bin Ladenwithdeepandterriblethoughts ;_;
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;38206351][URL]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1221207&p=38206050&viewfull=1#post38206050[/URL] Why dumb? I don't care about the rating, I just want to hear an actual answer/ opinion/ argument from you on my ideology, so I can better understand why someone would not want it.[/QUOTE] because it is hopelessly utopian and simply wouldn't work in practice
This reminds me of the Onions article on Hitlers depression where everyone suddenly feels sorry for him as he commited suicide [IMG]http://i47.tinypic.com/2v328.png[/IMG]
Anyone who thinks the Treaty of Versailles was directly responsible for WW2 really didn't study this beyond school.
So apparently the majority of Facepunch seem to think its okay to feel sorry for Hitler, regardless of the fact that he brought death to millions of people. okay.
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;38206050]words[/QUOTE] You're either fucking weird or fucking stupid. I haven't decided yet.
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