• YouTube's Biggest Partners: Show Me the Money
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[table="width: 900, align: left, class: outer_border"] [tr] [td]Tuesday at the Stream conference, executives from multi-channel networks echoed a controversial blog post by entrepreneur Jason Calacanis over the weekend in which he chided YouTube for taking too large a cut of his channel's revenue. The post has been the talk of the online video community since it surfaced -- so much so that Electus COO Drew Buckley kicked off his panel by asking those executives for their take. Barry Blumberg, EVP of Alloy Digital and president of Smosh, YouTube's single most subscribed channel, was particularly outspoken, questioning whether the core of YouTube's business – short videos -- could ever be a huge source of revenue for producers. "I'm not sure today -- like I was a long time ago -- that there is a lot of value in the 3-to-5 minute video," he told the crowd at the Santa Monica conference. "When is that ad market going to tip where it starts to make sense for us to produce this video, which is infinitely less expensive? It's not getting there." Blumberg said that YouTube's relationship with many of the multi-channel networks has deteriorated in spite of higher viewership. He noted that Smosh now generates more than 65 percent of its revenue from sources other than YouTube. [[B]...[/B]] Other panelists expressed a growing dissatisfaction with the money they were making on YouTube. These partners feel that YouTube's business approach enriches YouTube without making them nearly as wealthy. [[B]...[/B]] During the panel, Chris Williams, chief development officer at Maker Studios, expressed confidence that ad dollars will eventually follow YouTube eyeballs. "No other platform in the world has the proven ability to make something go viral," Williams said. [[B]...[/B]][/td] [/tr] [/table] [URL="http://tv.yahoo.com/news/youtubes-biggest-partners-show-money-220355088.html"]Wee[/URL]. And the video I found it from can be found [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLBQ-vC4u-M"]here[/URL]
I'm personally fine with it. People shouldn't stick to just one area as an artist and putting all your stock in one place is foolish. Expecting to get rich and demand more money when all you're doing is making lets plays is also naive.
Youtube really changed for the worse when people started getting paid for views.
Double post....
Seriously. I get annoyed at youtube buffering as much as anyone, but I recognize that sending out all that data is expensive.
Not to derail, but that layout is unreadable on Android (I would post about the article [I]if i could read it[/I])
[QUOTE=chimitos;40952201]Not to derail, but that layout us unreadable on Android (I would post about the article [I]if i could read it[/I])[/QUOTE] [quote]Tuesday at the Stream conference, executives from multi-channel networks echoed a controversial blog post by entrepreneur Jason Calacanis over the weekend in which he chided YouTube for taking too large a cut of his channel's revenue. The post has been the talk of the online video community since it surfaced -- so much so that Electus COO Drew Buckley kicked off his panel by asking those executives for their take. Barry Blumberg, EVP of Alloy Digital and president of Smosh, YouTube's single most subscribed channel, was particularly outspoken, questioning whether the core of YouTube's business – short videos -- could ever be a huge source of revenue for producers. "I'm not sure today -- like I was a long time ago -- that there is a lot of value in the 3-to-5 minute video," he told the crowd at the Santa Monica conference. "When is that ad market going to tip where it starts to make sense for us to produce this video, which is infinitely less expensive? It's not getting there." Blumberg said that YouTube's relationship with many of the multi-channel networks has deteriorated in spite of higher viewership. He noted that Smosh now generates more than 65 percent of its revenue from sources other than YouTube. [...] Other panelists expressed a growing dissatisfaction with the money they were making on YouTube. These partners feel that YouTube's business approach enriches YouTube without making them nearly as wealthy. [...] During the panel, Chris Williams, chief development officer at Maker Studios, expressed confidence that ad dollars will eventually follow YouTube eyeballs. "No other platform in the world has the proven ability to make something go viral," Williams said. [...][/quote] [editline]8th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Killer900;40952193]Youtube really changed for the worse when people started getting paid for views.[/QUOTE] It was fine back when you could only enable ads if you were a partner, now anybody can turn on adsense and there's no moderation. They used to be like, extremely selective with who they made partners and or directors back in the day. Early youtube had a lot of content moderation and limits.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;40952204]Seriously. I get annoyed at youtube buffering as much as anyone, but I recognize that sending out all that data is expensive.[/QUOTE] my only problem is that mine has to play through the whole thing to buffer basically of i pause it a a certain point and it's not complete buffering, it'll stay probably 10% from the exact time
[QUOTE=Killer900;40952193]Youtube really changed for the worse when people started getting paid for views.[/QUOTE] It was fine back when you could only enable ads if you were a partner, now anybody can turn on adsense and there's no moderation. They used to be like, extremely selective with who they made partners and or directors back in the day. Early youtube had a lot of content moderation and limits. [editline]8th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Roof;40952230]my only problem is that mine has to play through the whole thing to buffer basically of i pause it a a certain point and it's not complete buffering, it'll stay probably 10% from the exact time[/QUOTE] Yep. My complaint really is that they massively grow each yet, and yet they still struggle to consistently buffer videos without pausing them.
[QUOTE=chimitos;40952201]Not to derail, but that layout us unreadable on Android (I would post about the article [I]if i could read it[/I])[/QUOTE] What phone do you have?
I don't understand how Smosh is still around, wasn't the only reason they were popular (like SIX YEARS AGO) was because in early youtube, they were really the only people putting out constant comedic content. Then, when other channels opened out, Smosh looked like garbage. How did they keep their subscriber base?
You need a pretty huge audience (in the 1'000'000s) to be able to properly life off YouTube. Although having a little money on the side from an actual job from something you in general like doing is pretty nice as well. They do take a lot though. And it's very random. Last month the average from TGN (whom I'm partnered with) was 2.14 dollars per 1000 views. This month it was 1.08.
[QUOTE=Zeos;40952271]I don't understand how Smosh is still around, wasn't the only reason they were popular (like SIX YEARS AGO) was because in early youtube, they were really the only people putting out constant comedic content. Then, when other channels opened out, Smosh looked like garbage. [B]How did they keep their subscriber base?[/B][/QUOTE]12 year olds. People who subscribed in the past but never unsubscribed. People who watched just one of their video, subscribed and never watched any of their videos again. People who like "lol funny randumb" videos 12 year olds Etc etc
Oh it's not just me experiencing Youtube video players being utter and absolute shit? I use to bring up a few videos, let them load, and watch them later. Now it takes 3 times as long and I have to put my computer on mute, let them play, then click replay when it finishes. I'm eagerly awaiting another video site.
[QUOTE=Zeos;40952271]I don't understand how Smosh is still around, wasn't the only reason they were popular (like SIX YEARS AGO) was because in early youtube, they were really the only people putting out constant comedic content. Then, when other channels opened out, Smosh looked like garbage. How did they keep their subscriber base?[/QUOTE] It's been eight years now man. [editline]8th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=RenegadeCop;40952422]Oh it's not just me experiencing Youtube video players being utter and absolute shit? I use to bring up a few videos, let them load, and watch them later. Now it takes 3 times as long and I have to put my computer on mute, let them play, then click replay when it finishes. I'm eagerly awaiting another video site.[/QUOTE] There's plenty of other video sites, the thing with them is that if they're not hotlinked or embedded on the host website, they're shitty. Mainly because you can't really find content that well on other websites.
They ought to have known; Google is a business and they're going to do anything they can to increase their profit and lessen yours, preferably without a shitstorm. Many online big shots left years ago to focus on other sites or made contracts with outside interests to combat that.
[QUOTE=Zeos;40952271]I don't understand how Smosh is still around, wasn't the only reason they were popular (like SIX YEARS AGO) was because in early youtube, they were really the only people putting out constant comedic content. Then, when other channels opened out, Smosh looked like garbage. How did they keep their subscriber base?[/QUOTE] Think they've also done let's plays or starred in other peoples let's plays, pewdiepie was one..
[QUOTE=Zeos;40952271]I don't understand how Smosh is still around, wasn't the only reason they were popular (like SIX YEARS AGO) was because in early youtube, they were really the only people putting out constant comedic content. Then, when other channels opened out, Smosh looked like garbage. How did they keep their subscriber base?[/QUOTE] Smosh did lose most of their original fanbase to make way for their new fanbase, it basically happens to everyone, however they are regarded as the "originals" of YT
[QUOTE=Killer900;40952193]Youtube really changed for the worse when people started getting paid for views.[/QUOTE] And why MeganSpeaks is still there showing her mole on her tit.
I've been a viewer, not a producer, from almost the beginning. The thing that's always made me laugh about these people running their channels is their inflated sense of worth. If you get 100,000 views per video, so what? That doesn't make you important. You could leave Youtube forever and Youtube would still roll on, without even noticing you're gone. That is what they don't realize. There is a critical mass now of people uploading videos. No producer, no matter how successful, matters enough to demand anything from Google. They simply don't have the leverage. People like me go to Youtube to watch stuff because we know that whatever category of video we are interested in, Youtube has a shitload of video content. Fifty percent of current uploaders could disappear overnight and I won't notice because of the tons of videos still coming online every day.
[t]http://puu.sh/3cgGR.jpg[/t] how the fuck are these people the biggest youtube channel
[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;40967221][t]http://puu.sh/3cgGR.jpg[/t] how the fuck are these people the biggest youtube channel[/QUOTE] Their target audience is young teenagers under the age of 14 who like random and soft satire comedy, hence why a lot of their videos they censor the swearing, kids that age find bleeps funny and hilarious because it makes you use your imagination
Onision seems to target underage girls.
[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;40967221][t]http://puu.sh/3cgGR.jpg[/t] how the fuck are these people the biggest youtube channel[/QUOTE] What is this faggotry...
Yeah I remember liking smosh a few years ago, but I've grown out of watching that kinda stuff and don't really find them funny anymore. Some of my friends at school still like them.
I have been a YouTube partner for two years now, and I can tell you guys that there are two kinds of content producers out there. There are the ones that truly care and will continue to produce quality content, and there are the ones who used to produce quality content and still sometimes do, but eventually the profits and endorsements get to them. It's just how it goes. It's all truly sad, but have faith that some us still try to keep it real.
I thought Ray William Johnson was as bad as it got. He now has a formidable contender: [img]http://i.imgur.com/J87M8E3.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;40952192]I'm personally fine with it. People shouldn't stick to just one area as an artist and putting all your stock in one place is foolish. Expecting to get rich and demand more money when all you're doing is making lets plays is also naive.[/QUOTE] They're making an art form which people want to see and appreciate. No matter the content, their following should get proper recognition as far as the traffic they're drawing to the site.
[video=youtube;XzIfCKdNdsc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzIfCKdNdsc[/video] BAWWWWW. I know like her arrows either point her at her tits or fugly face.
This is from 2009, and from one of my favorite old youtubers. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0bGs-hhenI[/media] Just goes to show you this shit isn't new.
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