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Why would criminals get chances to commit crimes in prison? Oh yeah because your prisons don't fucking work is why.
[QUOTE=that1dude24;24425909]I've lived in the U.S. my whole life.[/QUOTE] I didn't say without exception. Most exceptions having a blatant liberal leaning like much of FP [QUOTE=DaCommie1;24426065]You best be trolling. I can testify that Canada is not a liberty deprived country, and it's that kind of attitude that the American stereotype is based around, and you do nothing to stop the enforcement of it, which itself is a tragedy, as it shapes the world's views negatively of the respectful Americans.[/QUOTE] Anyone living under a constitutional monarchy who considers themselves free is delusional.
Anyone who thinks they are the best in the world and don't know how things work in the real world are truly delusional.
[QUOTE=BNB]Why would criminals get chances to commit crimes in prison? Oh yeah because your prisons don't fucking work is why. [/QUOTE] This will always happen (ie. other prisoners killing other prisoners). It's prisons that have the lowest rate that are the best ;)
It won't if your prisons don't suck balls. Prisons are meant to control criminals so they can't commit crimes. If they can still commit crimes when in prison you might as well just shut the whole thing down.
[QUOTE=Leg Of Doom]Anyone living under a constitutional monarchy who considers themselves free is delusional. [/QUOTE] You may considerably be trolling right now, however I must request you troll harder to get a decent response.
[QUOTE=Leg of Doom;24426348]Anyone living under a constitutional monarchy who considers themselves free is delusional.[/QUOTE] You're completely wrong, and the fact that we're a constitutional monarchy opens up a whole other heated debate in which I have a very strong opinion, but this isn't the thread to get into that.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;24426233]"Rehab doesn't work" = not true. So your point is moot. Some people won't be fixed. So you lock them up, why do you need to shed blood? What does more blood solve?[/QUOTE] Rehab doesn't always work. You can't say that it helps everyone, and if they are stuffed up enough to keep on doing it, they need more than medicine. I'm not saying that it should be used lightly, only in cases where noting else works.
No such cases exist. They are a fantasy invented by fearmongerers and paranoid news anchors to affirm that we, the master race of the true American citizen, a symbol of freedom and liberty for the whole world are so much better than those subhuman jews who commit crimes. Yeah why don't we just round up criminals and put them in concentration camps already? That'll solve the crime problem because clearly nothing else works. :godwin:
[QUOTE=Leg of Doom;24426348]I didn't say without exception. Most exceptions having a blatant liberal leaning like much of FP Anyone living under a constitutional monarchy who considers themselves free is delusional.[/QUOTE] Must be nice to be so wrong. Wait...
[QUOTE=BmB;24426307]Why would criminals get chances to commit crimes in prison? Oh yeah because your prisons don't fucking work is why.[/QUOTE] Are you trying to say that your prisons are 100% safe and no one gets any human contact whatsoever? That goes against your whole rights argument.
[QUOTE=teeheeV2;24426414]Rehab doesn't always work. You can't say that it helps everyone, and if they are stuffed up enough to keep on doing it, they need more than medicine. I'm not saying that it should be used lightly, only in cases where noting else works.[/QUOTE] The few that can't be fixed don't need to be killed. There are only few that can't be fixed.
[QUOTE=BmB;24426450]No such cases exist.[/QUOTE] There was a pedo who had been to rehab, was on meds, was supposed to be away from anywhere where minors gather who went to a school and tried to trick a 12 year old into his car. Thankfully, other parents stopped him.
[QUOTE=teeheeV2;24426470]Are you trying to say that your prisons are 100% safe and no one gets any human contact whatsoever? That goes against your whole rights argument.[/QUOTE] Prisons like the US has are used as a training ground and a "school" for convicts as it is.
[QUOTE=teeheeV2;24426470]Are you trying to say that your prisons are 100% safe and no one gets any human contact whatsoever? That goes against your whole rights argument.[/QUOTE] I don't know if our prisons are safe, but I do know what prisons are there for and when they fail to fulfill that task.
[QUOTE=teeheeV2;24426504]There was a pedo who had been to rehab, was on meds, was supposed to be away from anywhere where minors gather who went to a school and tried to trick a 12 year old into his car. Thankfully, other parents stopped him.[/QUOTE] So keep him in jail. Why do you have to spill blood?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;24426473]The few that can't be fixed don't need to be killed. There are only few that can't be fixed.[/QUOTE] Now you see who I am talking about. I wasn't talking about the guy who killed someone in self defense. [editline]03:19PM[/editline] [QUOTE=BmB;24426514]I don't know if our prisons are safe, but I do know what prisons are there for and when they fail to fulfill that task.[/QUOTE] And the only way to be sure that they won't be harmed by another prisoner or guard is to deprive them of all contact. How can we be sure that the guards aren't corrupt either and turn a blind eye.
[QUOTE=teeheeV2;24426521]Now you see who I am talking about. I wasn't talking about the guy who killed someone in self defense.[/QUOTE] I agree some cases are too far gone, but I disagree with killing them. Unless you catch them in the act of hurting someone you should not kill them. As in if you're life is threatened, you have reason to kill them.
[QUOTE=teeheeV2;24426504]There was a pedo who had been to rehab, was on meds, was supposed to be away from anywhere where minors gather who went to a school and tried to trick a 12 year old into his car. Thankfully, other parents stopped him.[/QUOTE] Oh no, despite this being a meaningless anecdote (story pulled from thin air or pure memory without anything to prove that it is fact) we'll just go right ahead and not consider why rehab and meds didn't work, and instead conclude that he cannot be helped and continue to violate his rights and just kill him. Fuck yeah, America. Where thinking is for pussies and killing is for men.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;24426520]So keep him in jail. Why do you have to spill blood?[/QUOTE] Because a quick needle is better than having taxpayers pay for him to stay in prison until he dies, either naturally or by another human
No it isn't, you are killing a human being. That isn't alright.
[QUOTE=teeheeV2;24426580]Because a quick needle is better than having taxpayers pay for him to stay in prison until he dies, either naturally or by another human[/QUOTE] No, killing is wrong. blood doesn't need to be spilled just because blood was spilled. The killing needs to stop somewhere.
[QUOTE=BmB;24426569]Oh no, despite this being a meaningless anecdote (story pulled from thin air or pure memory without anything to prove that it is fact) we'll just go right ahead and not consider why rehab and meds didn't work, and instead conclude that he cannot be helped and continue to violate his rights and just kill him. Fuck yeah, America. Where thinking is for pussies and killing is for men.[/QUOTE] Australia, and he was on channel 9 news, any other Aussies remember the story, it wasn't that long ago. I think it happened in Springfield QLD. Look it up, it's real.
That was not the important part of that post.
[QUOTE=Warhol;24422044]No torture, just dying? you're a fucking tool[/QUOTE] Jesus Christ Can you go five posts without blatantly flaming someone because you ran out of shit to spew
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;24426611]No, killing is wrong. blood doesn't need to be spilled just because blood was spilled. The killing needs to stop somewhere.[/QUOTE] I agree it's brutal. I can see that. But if I was a fucked up freak, I would prefer a needle to bleeding out while others taunt me. The killing does need to stop, but the only way that's possible is to keep him 100% to himself. Which is unfair.
More unfair than killing him? I think not. Regardless that isn't the only alternative, reply to my previous post without focusing on the origin of some godforsaken news story nobody cares about.
[QUOTE=BmB;24426632]That was not the important part of that post.[/QUOTE] He was a repeat offender. They tried everything. [editline]03:28PM[/editline] [QUOTE=BmB;24426691]More unfair than killing him? I think not. Regardless that isn't the only alternative, reply to my previous post without focusing on the origin of some godforsaken news story nobody cares about.[/QUOTE] Well then let them choose. Solitary confinement for the rest of their life or execution. That puts it in their hands.
"Rehab" and "meds" isn't "everything". Maybe rehab wasn't what he needed, maybe it was a shithole rehab that doesn't work, maybe it was the wrong meds, maybe he needed psychiatric help. But no before thinking about why he is like he is we'll just kill him because that's easier than having feelings for your fellow humans.
[QUOTE=BmB;24426732]"Rehab" and "meds" isn't "everything". Maybe rehab wasn't what he needed, maybe it was a shithole rehab that doesn't work, maybe it was the wrong meds, maybe he needed psychiatric help. But no before thinking about why he is like he is we'll just kill him because that's easier than having feelings for your fellow humans.[/QUOTE] They tried to fix him. psychiatric help comes under rehab
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