• AMD announces Radeon R200 GPUs (Volcanic Islands)
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[url]http://www.anandtech.com/show/7400/the-radeon-r9-280x-review-feat-asus-xfx/[/url] [url]http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-280x-r9-270x-r7-260x,3635.html[/url] [url]http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-R9-280X-R9-270X-and-R7-260X-Review/GRID-2-R9-270X-R7-260X[/url] [url]http://hardocp.com/article/2013/10/07/asus_r9_280x_directcu_ii_top_video_card_review/1[/url] [url]http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-Radeon-R7-260X-R9-270X-and-R9-280X-Tested/[/url] [IMG]http://abload.de/img/amd_naming_volcanic_io3umx.jpg[/IMG] from some dude in neogaf [QUOTE] 250 = 7750 260 = 7770 260X = 7790 270 = 7850 270X = 7870 280 = 7950 280X = 7970 290 = Nvidia's 780 290X = Nvidia's Titan[/QUOTE] from tom's hardware [QUOTE]Say Goodbye To The Old Names And Hello To The Old GPUs At its press day in Hawaii, two weeks ago, AMD publically announced the Radeon R7 250, R7 260X, R9 270X, R9 280X, R9 290, and R9 290X. There’s also an R7 240 the company didn’t mention. How on earth will you ever memorize all of the corresponding specifications of each card in a timely manner? It’s easy: although we’re looking at new model names, all of the products AMD is talking about today employ GPUs already found in the Radeon HD 7000-series line-up.[/QUOTE] so essentially AMD is launching their version of rebranded/slighly optimized GPUs, and they don't look particulary impressive, at least it seems amd versions are slightly better at higher end(slightly worse at lower end, which is odd, since it tends to be opposite). also prices by AMD: [QUOTE]R7250 = <$89 R7260X = $139 R9270X = $199 R9 280X = $299[/QUOTE]
If this is really all they're throwing out there, I'm honestly pretty disappointed.
Why they plan on keeping these through q3 2014 is pretty baffling. I guess they think the essentially half price rollover will stem off nVidia's next gen sufficiently to keep competitive. It's not like they have to bust ass that hard, what with having the consoles wrapped up with "native" mantle support right out of the gate. Still if nVidia shows a much stronger gen even at double the price point comparatively, AMD is gonna get their ass whooped in the high end market.
Bunch of rebrands and two titan/780 cards I can't afford, kinda hoped for more..
[QUOTE=27X;42452212]Why they plan on keeping these through q3 2014 is pretty baffling. I guess they think the essentially half price rollover will stem off nVidia's next gen sufficiently to keep competitive. It's not like they have to bust ass that hard, what with having the consoles wrapped up with "native" mantle support right out of the gate. Still if nVidia shows a much stronger gen even at double the price point comparatively, AMD is gonna get their ass whooped in the high end market.[/QUOTE] Dunno, if the R290X is better or equal to the 780 for much cheaper, I could see getting 2-3 of those being significantly better.
Well so far initial reviews seem to paint it as behind the 780 in almost every app except AMD centric ones like Tomb Raider so, for single use it doesn't seem like a clear win-win, though for people upgrading with college/tax return money certainly could buy two for much better bang, with the caveat that AMD dual setups are a lot more conditional than nVidia ones, especially in regard to micro stutter. But you're right, being able to get two cards for the same price point as a single that's only 15-20% faster than one is pretty much a no-brainer for people on a budget or with a spare slot and a little free cash. I'm sure in the mid-range and lower end market they're going to clean house pretty unilaterally.
[QUOTE=27X;42452212]Why they plan on keeping these through q3 2014 is pretty baffling. I guess they think the essentially half price rollover will stem off nVidia's next gen sufficiently to keep competitive. It's not like they have to bust ass that hard, what with having the consoles wrapped up with "native" mantle support right out of the gate. Still if nVidia shows a much stronger gen even at double the price point comparatively, AMD is gonna get their ass whooped in the high end market.[/QUOTE] i don't really expect the next series to be so overtly better like some think it will be, at least not if they're launching in Q1 2014, from what i understood titan was the best of the best nvidia could put out, for AMD it seems R290X seems to be its equivalent(or even a bit better), there isn't much of an incentive for that, especially since the new consoles will be much easier to port to PC. i could be wrong through. i for one welcome graphic cards with only slight increases :v: , since they're horribly expensive in brazil due to insane taxes.
Gee, I hope the R9 290 isn't too expensive. I have a GTX 760 now and need a card with a bit more oomph for 1440p gaming, but I'm not sure whether to SLI my GTX760 or wait and get one of the newer generation cards.
[QUOTE=fishyfish777;42452286]Gee, I hope the R9 290 isn't too expensive. I have a GTX 760 now and need a card with a bit more oomph for 1440p gaming, but I'm not sure whether to SLI my GTX760 or wait and get one of the newer generation cards.[/QUOTE] i still have a HD 5770 :v: , i would be happy to have a 760, personally i wouldn't see the point in getting a newer one if i were in your position, better wait for next-next gen, or at least OC/special editions of next-gen.
I sure want to see some 290X benchmarks.
[QUOTE=27X;42452251]Well so far initial reviews seem to paint it as behind the 780 in almost every app except AMD centric ones like Tomb Raider so, for single use it doesn't seem like a clear win-win, though for people upgrading with college/tax return money certainly could buy two for much better bang, with the caveat that AMD dual setups are a lot more conditional than nVidia ones, especially in regard to micro stutter. But you're right, being able to get two cards for the same price point as a single that's only 15-20% faster is pretty much a no-brainer for people on a budget or with a spare slot and a little free cash. I'm sure in the mid-range and lower end market they're going to clean house pretty unilaterally.[/QUOTE] The R9-280X is basically a 7970 architectually, but at $299 which is [I]a lot[/I] cheaper than Nvidia's current offerings. It's extremely competitive. I'm a bit disappointed that we haven't seen more of the new architecture (the R9-260 is based on the new architecture), but the price drop is significant. [editline]8th October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Arid;42452225]Bunch of rebrands and two titan/780 cards I can't afford, kinda hoped for more..[/QUOTE] The R9-260X is based on the new architecture.
This is one sexy looking card [IMG]http://static.scan.co.uk/images/products/super/2247948-l-a.jpg[/IMG]
Eh i don't like how halfway it becomes paperthin.
[QUOTE=Scot;42452600]This is one sexy looking card [IMG]http://static.scan.co.uk/images/products/super/2247948-l-a.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] That box looks like a horrendous photoshop.
[QUOTE=Scot;42452600]This is one sexy looking card [IMG]http://static.scan.co.uk/images/products/super/2247948-l-a.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Is the GPU white or does it have a super small board? This picture is confusing.
[QUOTE=Woovie;42452761]Is the GPU white or does it have a super small board? This picture is confusing.[/QUOTE] I think it's just the angle, looks normal from the bottom [IMG]http://media.bestofmicro.com/xfx-r9-280x-double-dissipation,X-P-402973-13.jpg[/IMG]
All of them are re-brands, and a little bit downgraded, 280X is essentially 7970 ghz that's underclocked by like 20 hz or something, lol 290X price should be good.
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;42454201]All of them are re-brands, and a little bit downgraded, 280X is essentially 7970 ghz that's underclocked by like 20 hz or something, lol 290X price should be good.[/QUOTE] The R9-270X is based on the 7870, and it performs more like the 7950. It's basically the 7870XT if I'm not totally wrong. The R9-280X is a basically a rebranded 7970, but that doesn't change the fact that it's only $299, which is an extremely attractive price point. The R9-260X is not a rebrand, though, so you're not correct in saying that.
I'm okay with that. My 7950 runs great and it would be a shame to upgrade again. Rather saving up for a new CPU + Mobo.
[QUOTE=KILLTHIS;42454591]I'm okay with that. My 7950 runs great and it would be a shame to upgrade again. Rather saving up for a new CPU + Mobo.[/QUOTE] You still have a great card, it will last you through 2014 very very easily. But yeah CPU and MB is the best investment for 2013-2014
I have a 6970 and have little to no issues with most games.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;42454301]The R9-270X is based on the 7870, and it performs more like the 7950. It's basically the 7870XT if I'm not totally wrong. The R9-280X is a basically a rebranded 7970, but that doesn't change the fact that it's only $299, which is an extremely attractive price point. The R9-260X is not a rebrand, though, so you're not correct in saying that.[/QUOTE] You sure about 260X not being a rebrand?
Still playing catchup I see, AMD. They do seem like good value though. I hope Mantle does well for them. I hope nvidia picked up Mantle as well.
Interesting but now I want to see what Nvidia is going to do in 2014
[QUOTE=BenJammin';42457118]Interesting but now I want to see what Nvidia is going to do in 2014[/QUOTE] nVidia Jupiter.
[QUOTE=fishyfish777;42452286]Gee, I hope the R9 290 isn't too expensive. I have a GTX 760 now and need a card with a bit more oomph for 1440p gaming, but I'm not sure whether to SLI my GTX760 or wait and get one of the newer generation cards.[/QUOTE] 760GTX in SLI will be more powerful than any video card on the market. So I'd go that route. Would be a lot cheaper too.
[QUOTE=TheCloak;42457444]760GTX in SLI will be more powerful than any video card on the market. So I'd go that route. Would be a lot cheaper too.[/QUOTE]Most games don't utilize SLI properly though so you're better off with a single, more powerful card 99% of the time.
are any of these better than an hd 5770 because if so then i need 50.
Equivalent of a 7750 for less than $90? Actually, for the price, all these cards seem amazing I've got a HD7850. I got MoH and Farcry 3 for 'free' with it, and both were $60 at the time, essentially the card was $50. It was $170 total. I'm happy with it. AMD make decent cards and for cheaper than nVidia's equivalent
[QUOTE=Catscratch;42457437]nVidia Jupiter.[/QUOTE] And it'll cost Jupiter's volume in gold, probably.
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