• New Gates Divide U.S.-Canada Border Towns
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[QUOTE]DERBY LINE, Vt. - For decades, the towns of Derby Line, Vt., and Stanstead, Quebec, have functioned as one community. They share a sewer system, emergency services, snowplowing duties and the border-straddling Haskell Free Library and Opera House, where a skinny black line across the hardwood floor of the reading room marks the international border running through the property. Work began Thursday, though, to erect of a pair of 5-foot-tall steel gates across two previously unguarded residential streets — a project that is dividing the towns physically but uniting them in displeasure. Border authorities call the gates a necessary evil to stem smuggling and illegal alien crossings. Locals say there's enough security — surveillance cameras and patrols by U.S. Customs and Border Protection — as it is. "I've always considered Derby and Stanstead like brother and sister," said Mary O'Donnell, 57, of Stanstead, walking into the library to use a computer Friday. "We've always been on friendly terms. Now, suddenly, 9/11 hits and everybody in the U.S. freaks out. So we're now going to get some really ugly things at the end of the streets that I don't think is going to serve much of a purpose." Smuggling route? The remote-controlled steel gates, which are in the process of being installed, will open for emergency vehicles, border agents and snow plows, but they will cut off automotive access by civilians on Phelps and Lee streets, which run perpendicular to the border. "Over the years, we've noted that criminal smuggling organizations are bringing people in from all over the world to use those roads in the Derby Line area to smuggle people into the U.S. from Canada," said Mark Henry, operations officer for the U.S. Border Patrol. "People are also using those roads to smuggle people into Canada from the U.S." Many who are caught smuggling aliens across the border using the streets have been found to be in possession of maps — downloaded from the Internet — showing the layout, officials say. Last month, an alleged con man who had confounded authorities all over the world was caught here. Juan Guzman-Betancourt told the Border Patrol he had unknowingly walked across the border into Vermont from Canada after his car broke down. But by then, plans were already in the works for the gates, which will hang from two granite-faced steel posts on either side of the roadways. One gate is being paid for by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, the other by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. They'll be maintained by both countries. Splitting the community Locals don't question the need for border security. "The USA has the right to take the measures, as a sovereign state has the right to take the measures it deems necessary to protect its borders and its people," said Andrew Preston, 70, of nearby Baldwin's Mills, Quebec. "But some of the fallout from that, unfortunately, is that it harms communities like these," said Preston, who was using the library Friday. It's the psychological impact of tightened security that bothers some. "We really don't consider the border a border," said drugstore owner Roland Roy, who sits on the three-member board of trustees for the Village of Derby Line. "We consider the village as all one. These gates split the community." Two existing border crossings — one on Route 5 in Derby Line, another along Interstate 91 — handle most of the international traffic. The unguarded streets are used primarily by locals, many of them familiar faces to the border authorities. For now, Church Street — which runs parallel to the others and leads to the front door of the Haskell Free Library — will remain unguarded, and with no gate. "Church Street is unguarded, but that doesn't mean it's unwatched or unpatrolled," Henry said. "If we see there's a problem, we'll see what we have to do about it." [/QUOTE] Source: [url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33145600/ns/us_news-security/[/url] As an American, I like Canadians. They're our brothers in the north.
But I like my weed from Canada Should just hide weed in the snow plows
Nothing can separate me from my little crab Arc Nova
What an ass move. At the very least they could just build around the town rather than through it. It must suck to have you community literally divided.
And my little trout hybrid theory
Why don't they just build the gate on the edge of town? Kind of artificially "move" the border so the town doesn't straddle it. [i]EDIT: Oh, looks like I'm late.[/i] Oh right, governments can't use logic. [QUOTE=Latias;17668578]But I like my weed from Canada Should just hide weed in the snow plows[/QUOTE] What do you think Zambonis are filled with? Do you honestly believe they have to be that large to function?
And my commie Chippay
What if someone wants to go to the Market, but it's across the border? Seriously. It's just gonna be a nuisance to the residence.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;17668652] What do you think Zambonis are filled with? Do you honestly believe they have to be that large to function?[/QUOTE] You don't need weed to polish a skating ring
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;17668664]What if someone wants to go to the Market, but it's across the border? Seriously. It's just gonna be a nuisance to the residence.[/QUOTE] [i]I'm sorry, you can't bring those items across the border sir. You're going to have to eat them in the supermarket.[/i] [editline]10:56PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Latias;17668687]You don't need weed to polish a skating ring[/QUOTE] You need weed to endure having to drive one of those slow fucks though.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;17668639]What an ass move. At the very least they could just build around the town rather than through it. It must suck to have you community literally divided.[/QUOTE] Because it will end up with an arguement over which side to build the town around, basically deciding, "Will this town be an American or Canadian town?". And if they actually do decide, then the people there will most likely have to change their citizenship. [editline]10:57PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;17668694][i]I'm sorry, you can't bring those items across the border sir. You're going to have to eat them in the supermarket.[/i][/QUOTE] "Sorry, but we don't accept Canadian money on this side anymore."
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17668707]Because it will end up with an arguement over which side to build the town around, basically deciding, "Will this town be an American or Canadian town?". And if they actually do decide, then the people there will most likely have to change their citizenship.[/quote] Put a border checkpoint on both sides and build the gate all the way around then. [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17668707]"Sorry, but we don't accept Canadian money on this side anymore."[/QUOTE] This reminds me of those couple months where our dollar was more than yours. I bought so much shit online.
But, but, they are our hat! And we are their shit-stained underwear :downs:
[QUOTE=Skyhawk;17668833]But, but, they are our hat! And we are their shit-stained underwear :downs:[/QUOTE] We're the head, you're the ass, Mexico is the toilet
Damn Frostbacks. But seriously, Canada should just take over, they are better. (I'm half Canadian, half American)
Yeah keep those border hopping Canadians out... wait what?
What the fuck? Police State.
[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;17668912]Damn Frostbacks. But seriously, Canada should just take over, they are better. (I'm half Canadian, half American)[/QUOTE] Frostbacks is an awesome name, call us that more often
[QUOTE=Xystus234;17669000]What the fuck? Police State.[/QUOTE] Oh shut up. You guys yell "Police State" and "Conspiracy" every time something happens. There was a town on the border with no physical barriers preventing people from crossing he border. So they built a couple of gates. That's it, the only real issue here is they just chose an idiotic spot to put those gates.
you guys
[QUOTE=Skyhawk;17668833]But, but, they are our hat! And we are their shit-stained underwear :downs:[/QUOTE] Canada's the hat, Alaska is the hat's backwards bill because we cool like that, America is the body, Florida is the penis, all southern states are the shit stained underwear and Mexico is the shoes.
[QUOTE=MS-DOS4;17669458]Canada's the hat, Alaska is the hat's backwards bill because we cool like that, America is the body, Florida is the penis, all southern states are the shit stained underwear and Mexico is the shoes.[/QUOTE] Can't be cool and have shit stained underwear.
[QUOTE=Lazor;17669497]Can't be cool and have shit stained underwear.[/QUOTE] You're crazy, shit stained underwear is the new thing. All the gangstas are doing it!
skimmed through the article. When they saw they hope to stop illegal alien crossing, i hope they mean us Americans running into Canada. Canada is like......well shit it's Canada. It's a backwards USA where instead of everything being the wrong way round, it's the right way up. Fuck that fence i'm going to Canada now.
[QUOTE=MS-DOS4;17669458]Canada's the hat, Alaska is the hat's backwards bill because we cool like that, America is the body, Florida is the penis, all southern states are the shit stained underwear and Mexico is the shoes.[/QUOTE] California is our ass, Florida is our dick.
just hoppppp
That's pretty awesome to live in a town that's half in each country.
Do those towns use miles or kilometers?
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uhh why do we have to put gates on the north us border. i never heard of illegal immigrants from canada before
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