• Piracy sites 'attract billions'
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[quote]A study by anti-fraud firm MarkMonitor has offered a snapshot into the changing nature of online piracy.[/quote] What are we even discussing this here, given where this factoid comes from? It´s an self-serving opinion with dubious statisctics, missing methodology and outright lies.
[QUOTE=Wayword;27367282]theres just barely 7 billion people on earth, how can it attract billion(s), especially when like the majority of earths population lives in poop huts[/QUOTE] not unique visits
Hahah. Not surprising. I honestly don't download music anymore after I've started using Spotify. There's an ad every 3-4 songs, who cares. It's too bad not every country can use Spotify.
Hey, idea! Let's pay 14.57$ for every song we listen to, so that it would only be listen-able in a certain digitally certified program that you have to register for 23.10$, then upgrade for 30.55$ to remove the adds, and then get sued for enjoying a piece of music for over two years! PS. send a 9$ sms to 3535 to delay your monthly computer confiscation and mandatory warez search.
22 billions?! I guess aliens like our piracy sites too! [editline]12th January 2011[/editline] Whoops, meant 21 billions, my bad.
A visit is not equal to a unique visitor.
[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;27352940]I bought my music from iTunes until a few years ago when I got a new computer and realized it doesn't work like steam. I would have had to re-buy all my music. Do you re-buy CDs after you move houses?[/QUOTE] still, not buying from independent music artists is an awful thing to do the money from that music goes to the little label and artist that already don't earn very much
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;27369766]22 billions?! I guess aliens like our piracy sites too! [editline]12th January 2011[/editline] Whoops, meant 21 billions, my bad.[/QUOTE] Total hits, not unique ones
Isn't the majority of the loss from the greedy as fuck distributors/producers that only give like 5% of the profits to the actual artist?
[QUOTE=Hostel;27352005]I don't know why people defend piracy. It does make someone lose money. How much they are already making is irrelevant. I don't care if you're the guy who is just trying to see what a game is like before you buy it, it's just a fact that many out there are just trying a snag a good game for free.[/QUOTE] They're not losing money. They're just not earning any.
[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;27352940]I bought my music from iTunes until a few years ago when I got a new computer and realized it doesn't work like steam. I would have had to re-buy all my music. Do you re-buy CDs after you move houses?[/QUOTE] Back up your music on old computer Put it all back on new computer
[QUOTE=Wii60;27374743]Back up your music on old computer Put it all back on new computer[/QUOTE] I usually buy the CD when I buy music I really like, and I've never had a problem with transferring any music from one computer to another UNLESS ITUNES FUCKS WITH IT.
Gabe Newell on piracy (goes for things other than games): [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLC_zZ5fqFk[/url] "Piracy is the result of bad service." Oh I love that man
[QUOTE=chewgo;27375511]Gabe Newell on piracy (goes for things other than games): [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLC_zZ5fqFk[/url] "Piracy is the result of bad service." Oh I love that man[/QUOTE] And he's 100% right. Steam is a great service and usually makes even the most pirates buy. Except the shitty currency conversion which made me not buy stuff unless they're on discount.
[quote]The top three - RapidShare.com, Megavideo.com and Megaupload.com -[/quote] lol [editline]12th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=sniperlover;27374676]They're not losing money. They're just not earning any.[/QUOTE] This. A lot of piracy is just people who wouldn't normally try something trying it, if the option to get it for free wasn't there most people wouldn't buy it anyway. For games, I believe that the decline in demos has really contributed to piracy. I remember playing the UT2004 demo, spending hours on it, then thinking 'Christ, if this is the demo the real game must be awesome'. So I bought it, and it was. Now, you have Silly platform exclusive 'betas' which aren't really betas at all and a lot less demos. Really gooddamn annoying when your only option to try something is to break the law.
[QUOTE=Fycix;27374408]Isn't the majority of the loss from the greedy as fuck distributors/producers that only give like 5% of the profits to the actual artist?[/QUOTE] not if it's independent like if you pirate aphex twin, he's actually missing out on like 50% of what is his
What else is new.
[QUOTE=doonbugie2;27382332]What else is new.[/QUOTE] Another 10 dollar 3 song album..
I feel that instead of stopping piracy, companies should instead learn to market to pirates.
[QUOTE=sniperlover;27374676]They're not losing money. They're just not earning any.[/QUOTE] Losing potential sales is losing money. [editline]13th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Generic.Monk;27375702]lol [editline]12th January 2011[/editline] This. A lot of piracy is just people who wouldn't normally try something trying it, if the option to get it for free wasn't there most people wouldn't buy it anyway. For games, I believe that the decline in demos has really contributed to piracy. I remember playing the UT2004 demo, spending hours on it, then thinking 'Christ, if this is the demo the real game must be awesome'. So I bought it, and it was. Now, you have Silly platform exclusive 'betas' which aren't really betas at all and a lot less demos. Really gooddamn annoying when your only option to try something is to break the law.[/QUOTE] Libraries man. Libraries.
Obviously... Who doesn't want free shit?
[QUOTE=BmB;27382653]Losing potential sales is losing money. [/QUOTE] can not be proved
By the way Rapidshare is wanting to [url=http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1936805/-pirates-rapidshare]sue[/url] MarkMonitor over this article :v:
[QUOTE=Cuel;27391139]can not be proved[/QUOTE] It is a simple deduction of logic you don't need to prove it.
Rapidshare and Megaupload are terrible upload services.
[QUOTE=BmB;27391286]It is a simple deduction of logic you don't need to prove it.[/QUOTE] That's pretty terrible logic. Besides, even if you "don't need to prove it", you can't. There is no way. You can not draw the direct conclusion that one downloaded game = one lost purchase. In world trade there is no such thing as "had purchased unless-customer", or "should-have-been-revenue". No. There is benefit or no benefit. Potential customers who buy or do not buy. When a pirate downloads a game or a movie, that is not a direct proof that he would have bought in the "perfect world" where piracy does not exist. These fictitious losses and made up customer groups belong in preschool logical thinking and reflects what big companies think about their customers' logical ability. A loss is not the customer's failed ability to consume, it's the company's failure to perform. An example of these kind of hasty final conclusions could be read a while back on the topic coffee. A newspaper claimed that new studies show that those who drink X many cups of coffee a day are less likely to suffer from diabetes. Coffee may have this magical effect, it did to the smart guys in coats. But an even bigger explanation could be that those who drink many cups of coffee a day are doing it instead of pouring down cola? Or because they are older and do not eat as much sweets as younger people? Or because it's quite expensive to buy coffee and not buy that cookie because of the price for the coffee. The problem is that there are only two sides. It is either pirates that support piracy just because, or it's people who think that Sony Music is a living organism that must be saved at any cost. The only real truth is that big companies do not complain that they are losing money. They complain that they do not earn enough. [editline]13th January 2011[/editline] they're good at bitching, not solving the problem.
I bet a fair few of the people complaining about piracy have either tried it or would if they knew how. I mean, how many people would pass up a free car or a free cinema ticket with no strings attached?
apparently BBC thinks rapidshare, megaupload, etc. are p2p sites
[QUOTE=Fatman55;27391261]By the way Rapidshare is wanting to [url=http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1936805/-pirates-rapidshare]sue[/url] MarkMonitor over this article :v:[/QUOTE] Oh god that's great
Mediafire's become popular, not just for file sharing, but for standard down load. There's no download limit or wait times and the speed is pretty good.
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