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[QUOTE=Demache;49664899]Aethestetics are opinions.[/QUOTE] Aesthetics are opinion but [QUOTE]Functionally they are the same. [/QUOTE] [IMG]http://core0.staticworld.net/images/article/2015/08/windows10startmenualphabet-100610056-medium.png[/IMG] :what:
[QUOTE=Shovel Mech;49664940]Aesthetics are opinion but [IMG]http://core0.staticworld.net/images/article/2015/08/windows10startmenualphabet-100610056-medium.png[/IMG] :what:[/QUOTE] I've never seen that before.
I do not want to update because I work with older computers. Which I hear would conflict with windows 10.
[QUOTE=Shovel Mech;49664940]Aesthetics are opinion but [IMG]http://core0.staticworld.net/images/article/2015/08/windows10startmenualphabet-100610056-medium.png[/IMG] :what:[/QUOTE] But that only happens when you click on one of the letters. By default the entire list is expanded.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;49665017]But that only happens when you click on one of the letters. By default the entire list is expanded.[/QUOTE] It's a choice between excessive scrolling and this bizarre grid. I have no idea why MS didn't just use nested folders like in Windows 7, and Vista, and XP, and 2000, and 98, and 95.
[QUOTE=Daysofwinter;49665007]I do not want to update because I work with older computers. Which I hear would conflict with windows 10.[/QUOTE] Depends on the driver support. Some like my 2006 Gateway laptop work okay with Vista drivers. [editline]3rd February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Shovel Mech;49665037]It's a choice between excessive scrolling and this bizarre grid. I have no idea why MS didn't just use nested folders like in Windows 7, and Vista, and XP, and 2000, and 98, and 95.[/QUOTE] But it does....? [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/e5EzPXa.jpg[/iMG] [editline]3rd February 2016[/editline] Seriously, it's looking more and more like your criticizing it and you have never even used it for more than 3 minutes.
[QUOTE=Demache;49665041]Depends on the driver support. Some like my 2006 Gateway laptop work okay with Vista drivers. [editline]3rd February 2016[/editline] [/QUOTE] Try a laptop from 2003-2006. I do not want to update because of the rumors I have heard concerning windows ten doesn't play well with ancient gear.
[QUOTE=Demache;49665041]Depends on the driver support. Some like my 2006 Gateway laptop work okay with Vista drivers. [editline]3rd February 2016[/editline] But it does....? [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/e5EzPXa.jpg[/iMG][/QUOTE] It should work like this: Start > All Programs > X > (thing) Not Start > All Programs > Scroll to X > X > (thing) or Start > All Programs > Grid > X > X > (thing) (X is a program called X.) [QUOTE]Seriously, it's looking more and more like your criticizing it and you have never even used it for more than 3 minutes. [/QUOTE] Used for a month during the summer. I now use Linux as a primary OS w/ Windows 7 as a secondary.
The saddest thing about what Microsoft is currently doing, is that at this current rate of increasing incompatibility, WINE on Linux is likely to support more Windows-based applications and not even by a long shot. That's counting old Windows 95 applications of course, that don't even run on Windows 7. It's sad, not because of how much support currently exists on Linux, but because of how much support is being dropped by Microsoft. Repeating gunshots to the foot is not going to yield less itches, just bigger holes.
[QUOTE=Daysofwinter;49665112]Try a laptop from 2003-2006. I do not want to update because of the rumors I have heard concerning windows ten doesn't play well with ancient gear.[/QUOTE] Yeah that might be pushing it. 8 and above require a certain instruction that some older processors don't have so it won't even boot.
[QUOTE=Talishmar;49662840]What incompability issues are there? It was my biggest concern but I haven't seen anyone give much concrete examples besides the network adapter problems in this thread which sucks, W10 should do some kind of compatibility checking. I've encountered no issues myself so far, even though I was mentally prepared for it. If anything, driver-related stuff in particular seems to work better. Back when W10 was released, hardware and software hadn't yet caught up to it but there's been plenty of time.[/QUOTE] Certain CPU instructions are appearantly no longer supported, so for really old PCs that means no go. Besides, there's wireless drivers, and this and that, no longer being shipped or no longer working. The same issues were present with previous versions of Windows, I believe.
[QUOTE=Shovel Mech;49665115]It should work like this: Start > All Programs > X > (thing) Not Start > All Programs > Scroll to X > X > (thing) or Start > All Programs > Grid > X > X > (thing) (X is a program called X.) Used for a month during the summer. I now use Linux as a primary OS w/ Windows 7 as a secondary.[/QUOTE] I don't know what you are smoking but it IS Start > All Apps > Program Name > Program. It is literally no different then my Windows 7 workstation.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;49664650]How about I don't want windows 10 because [I]I don't fucking want it.[/I] I don't have to give a reason, I don't have to justify it, its my fucking machine, the software on it is in my control, and if I want to upgrade to windows 10 then I will. But until then [I]fuck off and stop pretending you control my machine.[/I][/QUOTE] It's not so much about your machine, but about the software. You don't "own" your Windows copy in the same way you own your Sofa. You can do with your Sofa as you please, you can sell it to whomever you want, and anyone can use your Sofa, if you're okay with it. You decide exactly how it's going to work out. However, with Windows, you've licensed this. You might be able to do the above, but Microsoft can always come tell you to fuck off, because they own the Sofa. You don't. You rented the Sofa, and under certain conditions too.
a hell no
[QUOTE=Jintei;49661447]Just upgrade ffs, the software updates will come sooner or later.[/QUOTE] This is the stupidest damn comment in here "Just update already, who cares if it's broken, at some point in the future there might be a fix for the stuff that was broken by it!"
Made the switch to Linux in preparation for 10 on my laptop, since mostly I only used Windows for games and drawing programs. I suppose there isn't a whole lot of reasons why I shouldn't just go to 10 on my desktop, but the auto shutdown for updates and compatibility issues that may or may not happen are my main concern. I guess in a way it all works out because the people who wanted 10 already have it, and those who don't want to make the switch are making their way to Linux. :v:
[QUOTE=Daysofwinter;49665112]Try a laptop from 2003-2006. I do not want to update because of the rumors I have heard concerning windows ten doesn't play well with ancient gear.[/QUOTE] I got this old HP Compaq laptop from around 2005 or 06 and it works even better with 10 than it did with XP or Vista. [editline]3rd February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Ridge;49665180]This is the stupidest damn comment in here "Just update already, who cares if it's broken, at some point in the future there might be a fix for the stuff that was broken by it!"[/QUOTE] What's broken?
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49665467]I got this old HP Compaq laptop from around 2005 or 06 and it works even better with 10 than it did with XP or Vista. [editline]3rd February 2016[/editline] What's broken?[/QUOTE] I forgot to mention its been in an attic for most of those years. Im having it fixed. If it works, it works. I still hear issues from those who went windows 10 having issues. So no.
[QUOTE=Talishmar;49662840]What incompability issues are there? It was my biggest concern but I haven't seen anyone give much concrete examples besides the network adapter problems in this thread which sucks, W10 should do some kind of compatibility checking. I've encountered no issues myself so far, even though I was mentally prepared for it. If anything, driver-related stuff in particular seems to work better. Back when W10 was released, hardware and software hadn't yet caught up to it but there's been plenty of time.[/QUOTE] Aside from network adapter problems, I've personally had issues with getting my headset, mouse, and keyboard to function properly with Windows 10 due to driver issues. Out of the three aforementioned devices, I've only managed to get the keyboard to function properly, whereas the headset is half-working (I can get audio from the speakers, but the mic won't pick up). The mouse is all but shot with Windows 10 for me, and I'd rather not go out and buy another one if I don't need to.
[QUOTE=Katra804;49665797]Aside from network adapter problems, I've personally had issues with getting my headset, mouse, and keyboard to function properly with Windows 10 due to driver issues. Out of the three aforementioned devices, I've only managed to get the keyboard to function properly, whereas the headset is half-working (I can get audio from the speakers, but the mic won't pick up). The mouse is all but shot with Windows 10 for me, and I'd rather not go out and buy another one if I don't need to.[/QUOTE] you sound like you have a terrible mouse if it doesn't work with windows 10. there's a generic usb mouse in the usb spec and if it doesn't work yes you should get a new mouse.
[QUOTE=ThePanther;49664919]I like Windows 10 :lick:[/QUOTE] I do not like Windows 10.
[QUOTE=maddogsamurai;49661674]Last time i upgraded my laptop went to a black screen. I had to put it in Safe Mode to get the screen working for a couple of minutes with enough time to remove the upgrade. I might need to ditch this laptop anyway. :cry:[/QUOTE] Mine would blue screen shortly after start up. And since using F8 to get to Safe Mode doesn't work on 8 and above, I had to be fast about getting to safe mode. If the search bar wasn't there I'd be stuck since the Start menu wouldn't open.
[QUOTE=Shovel Mech;49665115]It should work like this: Start > All Programs > X > (thing) Not Start > All Programs > Scroll to X > X > (thing) or Start > All Programs > Grid > X > X > (thing) (X is a program called X.) Used for a month during the summer. I now use Linux as a primary OS w/ Windows 7 as a secondary.[/QUOTE] Have you tried Start -> type X -> X appears as the first suggestion?
[QUOTE=Map in a box;49666312]you sound like you have a terrible mouse if it doesn't work with windows 10. there's a generic usb mouse in the usb spec and if it doesn't work yes you should get a new mouse.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't really say it's a terrible mouse just because it doesn't work with Windows 10; a bit of a shit analogy here, but that's like saying one has a shitty cooking pot because one of the burners on the stove top isn't working properly. To explain the situation a bit further in regards to my mouse, the drivers it needs are for the extra buttons that are programmable, and I've programmed each one to help me with my workflow for certain programs. Unfortunately, the drivers for this mouse are no longer up to date since the company that made the mouse and its drivers went under back in 2014 (which was about a year before I bought this mouse), so I'd basically have to get a new mouse that functions almost identically (if not identically) just for the sake of working with Windows 10. Sure, I could use my current mouse as a generic one instead and only have the three commonly used buttons working, but that kind of hinders my workflow and renders the extra buttons on my current mouse as redundant. Maybe I'm just being a hard-ass about my wallet, but I paid $85 for this mouse, so I don't see a reason to go shell out more money just to continue my work on Windows 10 with a new mouse when Windows 7 is still allowing my current mouse (and the rest of the hardware I mentioned before) to function perfectly fine.
I only use program search 1/3 of the time as I have a really shitty memory regarding names of things. Old start menu makes it easy to scroll through and locate the desired program since it allows condensed yet fast searching of all the shit I have installed. I still use Icons on the desktop for most used programs and also pinned in the start menu for same reason. [QUOTE=Map in a box;49666312]you sound like you have a terrible mouse if it doesn't work with windows 10. there's a generic usb mouse in the usb spec and if it doesn't work yes you should get a new mouse.[/QUOTE] If it's a software problem, then it should be treated as such.
[QUOTE=Van-man;49666690]I only use program search 1/3 of the time as I have a really shitty memory regarding names of things. Old start menu makes it easy to scroll through and locate the desired program since it allows condensed yet fast searching of all the shit I have installed. I still use Icons on the desktop for most used programs and also pinned in the start menu for same reason. If it's a software problem, then it should be treated as such.[/QUOTE] I don't know you have the impression that you can't. You can still scroll through the program list. It is exactly the same as it was in was in Vista and 7, just with a bigger font. The modern program list is entirely optional.
[QUOTE=Demache;49666795]I don't know you have the impression that you can't. You can still scroll through the program list. It is exactly the same as it was in was in Vista and 7, just with a bigger font. The modern program list is entirely optional.[/QUOTE] Aaaannd what if I don't want the bigger font? and there's also other things bother me? Somethings wrong when you'd have to install install third-party tools to solve a first-party caused problem...
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49660690]Oh boy! Even more of my older games dying! More lost files! Get fucked microsoft[/QUOTE] I think I'm going to buy some low-end parts and build a WinXP PC for the sole purpose of older games I already own and don't want to re-buy on GOG. Like my retail copy of Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear. I tried to play that recently, the menus were laggy as fuck as and I never managed to get into the damn game.
[QUOTE=Van-man;49667215]Aaaannd what if I don't want the bigger font? and there's also other things bother me? [B]Somethings wrong when you'd have to install install third-party tools to solve a first-party caused problem..[/B].[/QUOTE] This is 90% of every OS that isn't OS X though. You replace your browser because IE is shit, you use 7-ZIp because Explorer really isn't good at archiving, you install Atom or Sublime because Notepad is limited and useless, you install Steam because the App Store doesn't offer many games you want. Linux is similar, you have to install third party everything because the OS by itself is minimal as hell. "uggh i have to install something to change it exactly how i want it what is this tyranny???" is a bad reason to hate an OS. The face you [I]can[/I] do that is a positive.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;49667280]This is 90% of every OS that isn't OS X though. You replace your browser because IE is shit, you use 7-ZIp because Explorer really isn't good at archiving, you install Atom or Sublime because Notepad is limited and useless, you install Steam because the App Store doesn't offer many games you want. Linux is similar, you have to install third party everything because the OS by itself is minimal as hell. "uggh i have to install something to change it exactly how i want it what is this tyranny???" is a bad reason to hate an OS. The face you [I]can[/I] do that is a positive.[/QUOTE] TBH even OSX has shit people replace on a regular, like Safari if they use Firefox or Chrome or something, or iTunes if they have an Android.
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