• Pope paves way to beatification of John Paul II
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[quote=BBC News]Pope Benedict XVI has formally approved a miracle attributed to his late predecessor, paving the way to John Paul II's beatification on 1 May.The process of beatification, or declaring the late pontiff to be "blessed", is a crucial step towards making him a saint. John Paul II died in 2005 after a papacy of nearly 27 years. The Vatican credits him with the miraculous cure of a nun said to have had Parkinson's Disease. Church officials believe that the Polish pope, who himself suffered from the condition, interceded for the miraculous cure of Sister Marie Simon-Pierre, a Frenchwoman in her late forties. She has said her illness inexplicably disappeared two months after John Paul II's death, after she and her fellow nuns had prayed to him. Church-appointed doctors agreed that there was no medical explanation for the curing of the nun, although last year there were some doubts about the validity of the miracle. A Polish newspaper said that a doctor who scrutinised the nun's case had concluded that she might have been suffering not from Parkinson's, but from a nervous disorder from which temporary recovery is medically possible. Up to a million people are expected to gather in Rome for the beatification. Mourners at John Paul II's funeral on 8 April 2005 chanted: "Santo subito!" - or "Make him a saint right now!" The following month, Pope Benedict put him on a fast track to sainthood by dispensing with Church rules that normally impose a five-year waiting period after a candidate's death before the beatification procedure can start. Work is under way in St Peter's Basilica to make space for John Paul II's tomb since, in accordance with tradition, the remains of popes who are beatified are moved up from the crypt to the nave. "John Paul II's coffin will be moved in St Peter's Basilica from the Vatican crypt without being opened," said Vatican spokesman Federico Lombardi. His body will not be displayed but placed in a tomb under a simple marble stone reading "Beatus Ioannes Paulus II" (Blessed John Paul II). In order for John Paul II to be canonised as a saint, a second miracle would have to be verified following the beatification.[/quote] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12191423[/url]
If there's any pope that deserves to be a saint, it's Jan Paweł II. But lol, miracles.
They have miracle investigators? That's an interesting job. Probably go around sticking magnets on shit all day.
So thinking about a dead guy then suddenly having reprieve from your parkinsons = miracle. Cool, I bet I could perform miracles then.
Haven't others been made saint's simply for showing an uncommon act of kindness?
John Paul was a pretty cool guy, he even said the Big Bang theory wasn't incompatible with roman catholics?
[QUOTE=BmB;27409207]John Paul was a pretty cool guy, he even said the Big Bang theory wasn't incompatible with roman catholics?[/QUOTE] Pope Pius XII in 1951 declared that the Big Bang theory accords with the catholic views of the world's creation.(That was almost two decades before the theory's official scientific acceptance, too) And Georges Lemaître, the scientist who proposed the theory was a catholic priest. Just thought I'd share some cool stuff I know. :smug:
If anything this one of the smartest moves the current pope has made, the influence John Paul II had on various events was immense.
They should make Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope saints.
[QUOTE=BmB;27409207]John Paul was a pretty cool guy, he even said the Big Bang theory wasn't incompatible with roman catholics?[/QUOTE] It was the theory of evolution. On 22 October 1996, in a speech to the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontifical_Academy_of_Sciences"]Pontifical Academy of Sciences[/URL] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plenary_session"]plenary session[/URL] at the Vatican, Pope John Paul II declared the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution"]evolutionary[/URL] theories of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin"]Charles Darwin[/URL] as factual, and wholly compatible with the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_II#cite_note-Evolution-138"][139][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_II#cite_note-Linder-139"][140][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_II#cite_note-NCSE-140"][141][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_II#cite_note-Tagliabue-141"][142][/URL] Although accepting the theory of evolution, John Paul II made one major exception - the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul"]human soul[/URL]. “If the human body has its origin in living material which pre-exists it, the spiritual soul is immediately created by God”.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_II#cite_note-Evolution-138"][139][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_II#cite_note-NCSE-140"][141][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_II#cite_note-Tagliabue-141"][142][/URL]
I'm not that much of a religious guy, but John-Paul (Jean-Paul in french) was awesome and a good leader, always wanting to see what new technology would bring to the world. Benedict is more of a cunt fuck conservative that says ''African people can die, we won't send them condoms''.
[QUOTE=PlamZ;27410537]I'm not that much of a religious guy, but John-Paul (Jean-Paul in french) was awesome and a good leader, always wanting to see what new technology would bring to the world. Benedict is more of a cunt fuck conservative that says ''African people can die, we won't send them condoms''.[/QUOTE] Well here's to hoping Benedict dies soon and we'll get another chill pope.
[QUOTE=The golden;27411297]If Benedick has his hands in the process of selecting the new pope, I think you can be sure the next guy won't be "chill".[/QUOTE] ...Popes are selected when the previous Pope dies. I doubt he'll have too much of a hand in the process.
[QUOTE=The golden;27411383]We'll see if he's willing to follow the rules. He IS a bit of twat, as I'm sure you're aware.[/QUOTE] Well then, following your dooms-day scenario: Here's to hoping religion loses it's power on the world's workings.
Slow news week?
[QUOTE=The golden;27411383]We'll see if he's willing to follow the rules. He IS a bit of twat, as I'm sure you're aware.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure he wont amend the rules. I can't make a judgment on what type of person the predecessor might be though, considering the Pope was not only one involved with the sex scandal, but rather the most of the Vatican.
john paul was the most awesome pope ever shame how quickly he went though, benny needs to take a few tips from him
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