• Players’ Attempt to Destroy EVE Online Economy Gets Thumbs-Up From Developers
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[quote]In-game economies are one of the more fascinating aspects of multiplayer games, and one of the most complex would probably be the space-themed MMO EVE Online. Now, some players are leading an all-out assault on the Jita system, the largest trading hub in the game, in an attempt to destroy EVE’s economy. In response to this existential threat, the game’s developer CCP says: Have at it. According to Eurogamer, the assault — called Burn Jita — is being led by Alexander Gianturco. Gianturco, who sometimes goes under the name ”The Mittani,” is leading a group called the Goonswarm, named for their affiliation with the Something Awful forums. The group has already amassed a fleet of 14,000 Thrasher destroyers in an attack scheduled to begin tomorrow, though the battle may have begun early. Sometimes chided for being more like work than play, EVE has built a complex economy and an enormous base of dedicated players that sometimes go so far as to organize themselves into corporations outside the game to reap in-game benefits. Though many games have cooperative aspects, the lengths players go through to be participant in the game’s economy is truly breathtaking. Speaking to Eurogamer, the game’s lead designer Kristoffer Touborg said that this kind of enormous player-generated event is what makes EVE unique, and as such, should be allowed to happen: “It’s what makes Eve a really good game,” he said. “Do you want to play a 15 minute match of Call of Duty that you won’t remember the next day, or do you want to spend four months manufacturing 14,000 Thrashers to do this? It’s just so big and awesome.” Touborg went on to say that the assault might be good for the game’s economy, where many well-off players will lose a hefty chunk of their buying power and be forced to start again. Interestingly, the EVE wiki seems to indicate that Jita became the game’s largest trading hub through emergent play and was not designated by the developers. In that light, it seems fitting that player-generated economic boom be threatened by player-generated economic bust. Unfortunately, this interesting exercise in virtual economies has a darker side. Prior to his attempt to destroy the existing EVE economy, Gianturco made waves in the EVE community for encouraging a depressed player to commit suicide, and for others to join in. This sparked understandable outrage, and eventually led to Gianturco being banned from the game for 30 days — the end of which is noticeably tied to the beginning of the Burn Jita assault.[/quote] [url=http://www.geekosystem.com/burn-jita/]SOURCE[/url] Alt sources: [url]http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/eve-online/1223912p1.html[/url] [url]http://www.shacknews.com/article/73551/ccp-gives-blessing-to-eve-online-economy-attack[/url] [url]http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-04-27-ccp-players-attempt-to-destroy-eve-online-economy-is-f-ing-brilliant[/url]
You just gotta love Goonswarm and it's shenenigans.
[quote]14,000 Thrasher destroyers[/quote] [quote]14,000 destroyers[/quote] [quote][B]14,000[/B][/quote] holy fuck
I've never played EVE. What does Jita look like? IS IT FANCY?
So they are pretty going to snapshot the server, let it self-destruct, then fall back on the snapshot a few days later? This totally sounds fucking awesome.
[quote]Gianturco made waves in the EVE community for encouraging a depressed player to commit suicide, and for others to join in. This sparked understandable outrage, and eventually led to Gianturco being banned from the game for 30 days — the end of which is noticeably tied to the beginning of the Burn Jita assault.[/quote] All respect diminished in an instant.
Sounds like fun. I wonder if anyone will oppose them to try and save their economy...
I fucking love Goonswarm and their antics
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;35736502]All respect diminished in an instant.[/QUOTE] Wow, that guy's a right cunt...
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;35736502]All respect diminished in an instant.[/QUOTE] umm, are you kidding me? 30 days alone for that? that guys such a douche, and they should've made it longer, way longer
This kind of stuff is always nice to watch.
[QUOTE=Second-gear-of-mgear;35736445]I've never played EVE. What does Jita look like? IS IT FANCY?[/QUOTE] [img]http://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/images/a/ac/Jita_4-4.jpg[/img] [QUOTE=Jackald;35736515]Sounds like fun. I wonder if anyone will oppose them to try and save their economy...[/QUOTE] If anyone wanted to, they'd be hopeless. Gianturco has been preparing 4 months for this and their sheer numbers outnumber nearly any organized force out there, so without the time to prepare for a counter-attack, they'd be crushed.
Scamming people is also legit. CCP just says that you shouldn't be a moron and then you won't be scammed, and it's true too.
[QUOTE=Kendra;35736617]Scamming people is also legit. CCP just says that you shouldn't be a moron and then you won't be scammed, and it's true too.[/QUOTE] Related: [url]http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/08/12/biggest-eve-online-scam-ever-recorded-nets-over-a-trillion-isk/[/url]
someone should record this
I've gotten reports from friends inside of EvE that Goonswarm has locked down the Jita Station with 'Kill Everything' in effect.
[QUOTE=koeniginator;35736606][IMG]http://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/images/a/ac/Jita_4-4.jpg[/IMG] If anyone wanted to, they'd be hopeless. Gianturco has been preparing 4 months for this and their sheer numbers outnumber nearly any organized force out there, so without the time to prepare for a counter-attack, they'd be crushed.[/QUOTE] couldn't they just, iunno, stash their wealth somewhere, maybe in lots of super cheap ships which would be needed after the burst?
Oh wow, fuck. I take a break from this game for like a week and I miss crazy shit like this. Fuck Me. :v: [editline]lol[/editline] I'd take my Tech 2 Rifter in to see how many of the fucks I could kill before getting swarmed, but I installed L4 implants last week and I don't feel like blowing millions of isk for the lulz.
[QUOTE=Turnips5;35736424]holy fuck[/QUOTE] That's over ninethousand. Anyways: I like such player caused events. It's awesome to see what they are capable of.
I don't play EVE because I can't have fun with it, but this sounds amazing [editline]27th April 2012[/editline] except the guy that encouraged a depressed guy to kill himself
Goons attacking Jita? This is...nothing new. It does show why I like EvE though, CCP just doesn't give a damn. As long as you're not exploiting glitches, cheating, or being a dick to players outside of the game, you're free to scam, murder, bait and ransom to your heart's content.[QUOTE=Second-gear-of-mgear;35736445]I've never played EVE. What does Jita look like? IS IT FANCY?[/QUOTE] It's ok. There's a statue outside the 4/4 dock that people like to shoot at a lot, and there's almost always someone getting ganked.
I hope someone takes screenshots of all the destroyers attacking, I'd say that'd be fucking awesome to see.
So I'm guessing the main resistance isngoing to be that npc police force?
Just a question, what is Gianturco and Goonswarm? A player and a guild respectively? This sounds like real world confrontations like NK and SK. Fun! I used to love these sorts of fights in MMOs made of guild vs guild and so on.
[QUOTE=koeniginator;35736606][img]http://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/images/a/ac/Jita_4-4.jpg[/img] [/QUOTE] I somehow find that image disappointing. Maybe I was expecting more evident traffic or something. :V
[QUOTE=dass;35736851]Just a question, what is Gianturco and Goonswarm? A player and a guild respectively? This sounds like real world confrontations like NK and SK. Fun! I used to love these sorts of fights in MMOs made of guild vs guild and so on.[/QUOTE] Gianturco is an asshat that got banned fo0r a month because he was an asshole. Now he's gotten Goonswarm, who are a rather large Null-Sec Alliance(the terminology gets worse from here on in, grab a glossary) that own their own swath of space to back him up in his Crusade. Other null-sec alliances and pretty much everyone for that matter despise them all because the corporations in Goonswarm are composed of mostly trolls and assholes. Hope that was descriptive enough. [editline]27th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Rainboo;35736941]I somehow find that image disappointing. Maybe I was expecting more evident traffic or something. :V[/QUOTE] No sense of scale, that station is about a hundred kilometers wide. and your tiny little meters-long starship...? :v:
[QUOTE=dass;35736851]Just a question, what is Gianturco and Goonswarm? A player and a guild respectively? This sounds like real world confrontations like NK and SK. Fun! I used to love these sorts of fights in MMOs made of guild vs guild and so on.[/QUOTE] Gianturco is the person all 14 year old Goonswarmers look up to, a self-righteous dick who tried to bully someone into killing themselves. He's the leader of Goonswarm, one of the largest and most powerful corporations (read: guilds) in EVE. They're well known for acts of amazing dickiness and they've tried to crash the EVE economy and so this is nothing really new, if anything it's getting a bit stale.
The only things burning will be the burning wrecks of goons after they get concorded, and ccp fucked the economy long before the Burn Jita campaign. I wouldn't be surprised that this backfires and some other nullsec alliance takes the fight to goon turf.
[QUOTE=dass;35736851]Just a question, what is Gianturco and Goonswarm? A player and a guild respectively? This sounds like real world confrontations like NK and SK. Fun! I used to love these sorts of fights in MMOs made of guild vs guild and so on.[/QUOTE] Yep. Gianturco is the giant douche leader, and Goonswarm is his army of sweaty basement dwellers.
[QUOTE=dass;35736851]Just a question, what is Gianturco and Goonswarm? A player and a guild respectively? This sounds like real world confrontations like NK and SK. Fun! I used to love these sorts of fights in MMOs made of guild vs guild and so on.[/QUOTE] [media][URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRlrFudaEs8[/URL][/media] The Swarm. They take ships such as the T1 Cruiser[noob ship] and take down Titans. One of the most expensive/hard produce ships in the game...
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