• Man who feared mass shootings brings gun to movie theater, accidentally shoots woman
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[QUOTE]Dane Gallion was so worried about public shootings that police say he committed one. Last Thursday, Gallion popped a Xanax, ate a pizza and downed a 22-ounce beer. Then the 29-year-old headed to an evening showing of “13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi” in the Seattle suburb of Renton, Wash. But not without his handgun. Despite a Regal Cinema prohibition against firearms, Gallion sneaked his piece into the theater. He was, he later told police, “concerned about recent mass shootings in public places.” So concerned, in fact, that he kept his gun unholstered and tucked into his waistband, according to the [URL="http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/suspect-in-renton-theater-shooting-says-he-feared-random-attacks/"]Seattle Times[/URL]. Fifteen minutes into the movie, Gallion’s gun somehow went off, police say, striking the woman sitting in front of him. Gallion quickly ghosted out of the theater, allegedly discarding his gun’s magazine in a trash can on the way out. It was only when his retired Air Force colonel father learned of the shooting 90 minutes later and called 911 that Gallion finally turned himself in, according to the Times. Source: [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/01/26/man-who-feared-mass-shootings-brings-gun-to-movie-theater-accidentally-shoots-woman/[/url] [/QUOTE]
So basically the takeaway is watch Michael Bay and you might die.
Ironically enough I was carrying during the same movie but I didn't do shoot anyone. Probably because I wasn't medicated, drinking and I kept it in a holster and not loosely in my waistband.
How do people even manage to smuggle firearms into movie theaters?
[QUOTE=kikomia;49616649]How do people even manage to smuggle firearms into movie theaters?[/QUOTE] Uhhh it wouldn't be that hard. I don't know about there, but around here they don't search you or anything. That's kind of a weird concept to me, actually. I mean, if you have a backpack they look in it but they're not gonna' ask you to lift up your shirt and pat you down.
Why anyone would take a gun to the cinema is beyond me.
[QUOTE=BazzBerry;49616662]Uhhh it wouldn't be that hard. I don't know about there, but around here they don't search you or anything. That's kind of a weird concept to me, actually. I mean, if you have a backpack they look in it but they're not gonna' ask you to lift up your shirt and pat you down.[/QUOTE] When I went to see the movie there wasn't even anyone there to check our tickets, we could have gotten in for free and with anything we wanted honestly. We had to go back and wait to find the ticket guy.
[QUOTE=BazzBerry;49616662]Uhhh it wouldn't be that hard. I don't know about there, but around here they don't search you or anything. That's kind of a weird concept to me, actually. I mean, if you have a backpack they look in it but they're not gonna' ask you to lift up your shirt and pat you down.[/QUOTE] Clearly this is why guns should be banned in theaters, but tanks allowed.
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;49616677]Why anyone would take a gun to the cinema is beyond me.[/QUOTE] Mass shootings have happened in theaters more than once around here. I, for one, want a fighting chance to get myself or my family out of there.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;49616716]Mass shootings have happened in theaters more than once around here. I, for one, want a fighting chance to get myself or my family out of there.[/QUOTE] Would you be the same kind of person that would claim that mass shootings are statistically insignificant when someone would bring up that mass shooting are a real problem in the states?
[QUOTE=Hawke7;49616770]Would you be the same kind of person that would claim that mass shootings are statistically insignificant when someone would bring up that mass shooting are a real problem in the states?[/QUOTE] Yeah, statistically I guess they are. It's a problem that isn't unique to the US but we also happen to be one of the biggest nations on Earth with hundreds of years of gun culture and millions of citizens. I don't think there is a way to "stop" mass shootings, you can't ban guns that won't solve it. And you can try to reinvent the mental health system but there are too many things involved in that, it won't prevent every shooting either. So in the mean time I'm going to go about my business but keep a legally obtained and licensed firearm on me in the event I need to use it to defend my life, as slim a chance as it may be. And I've only had it for about a year now and I can already tell you I've had a situation where having that gun probably saved my life or at the very least kept me from being robbed or injured.
[QUOTE=Hawke7;49616770]Would you be the same kind of person that would claim that mass shootings are statistically insignificant when someone would bring up that mass shooting are a real problem in the states?[/QUOTE] are you arguing that they are statistically significant?
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;49616621]Ironically enough I was carrying during the same movie but I didn't do shoot anyone. Probably because I wasn't medicated, drinking and I kept it in a holster and not loosely in my waistband.[/QUOTE] In a poorly lit, crowded area like a cinema - why would you carry? In the unlikely event of a shooting by the time you've drawn people are panicing and you'll just end up hitting a civilian.
[QUOTE=Hawke7;49616770]Would you be the same kind of person that would claim that mass shootings are statistically insignificant when someone would bring up that mass shooting are a real problem in the states?[/QUOTE] The point is that from a not-so-emotional standpoint other problems are much more severe yet get much less attention.
[QUOTE=Flapadar;49616889]In a poorly lit, crowded area like a cinema - why would you carry? In the unlikely event of a shooting by the time you've drawn people are panicing and you'll just end up hitting a civilian.[/QUOTE] Generally you carry a flashlight or have one mounted on the gun. This is what every concealed carry class will tell you to do.
[QUOTE=Flapadar;49616889]In a poorly lit, crowded area like a cinema - why would you carry? In the unlikely event of a shooting by the time you've drawn people are panicing and you'll just end up hitting a civilian.[/QUOTE] I have a flashlight but because something is difficult doesn't mean I'm not going to do it. Just because someone starts shooting the place up doesn't mean I'm going to immediately begin firing wildly in his direction. Either I have a clear shot by luck, or because everyone around him have managed to get down or run away and if not than I'm not going to shoot him. I'm not John Wick and I don't claim to be some amazing gun fighter. I rather have my gun and have a slim chance to saving my own life than not have it and never have a chance and die without a fight or even the possibility of being able to shoot back. Generally though I carry my gun whenever I leave the house. Without exception. I don't specifically take one to the movies, I take one everywhere I go. Doesn't matter if I'm going out to eat, work, my friends house or anywhere else I bring my gun. Anything could happen on any given day at any given time, I want to have it if I need it because that one time I'm not carrying could be that one time I get put into a life threatening situation. It's like carrying around a cellphone or multi-tool, it's just an object not some corrupting, evil device that goes off randomly or compels me to shoot people. And I've already had a situation where I needed my gun so far. So it's not like I'm doing this within good reason. The gun has already paid for it's self as far as I'm concerned. It's like having insurance. I don't need it 99% of the time but that 1% I do, I really, really, need it.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;49616716]Mass shootings have happened in theaters more than once around here. I, for one, want a fighting chance to get myself or my family out of there.[/QUOTE] Fucking America.. Jesus Christ... It is beyond belief to me how you can think that's even reasonable situation you live in...
[QUOTE=Crhem van der B;49616963]Fucking America.. Jesus Christ... It is beyond belief to me how you can think that's even reasonable situation you live in...[/QUOTE] When I said "around here" I mean in America in general. Not particularly my local area. And if you can't fix the problem than you need to do what you need to do to live with it.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;49616716]Mass shootings have happened in theaters more than once around here. I, for one, want a fighting chance to get myself or my family out of there.[/QUOTE] It must be hard living in fear all the time.
By "live in" I meant America as a whole. I am going to the US in the summer and I am genuinely unnerved because of all of the shootings. Sounds unreasonable, but then again, you carry weapons to the fucking cinema for the same reason!
[QUOTE=darcy010;49616975]It must be hard living in fear all the time.[/QUOTE] I'm not fear it's just common sense as far as I see it. If there is a danger of something happening, no matter how remote, than figure out how to save yourself. I don't go to Home Depot, buy a fire extinguisher and have the cashier say "It must be hard living in fear all the time." And go figure I've used a fire extinguisher before to stop a fire that could potentially kill someone or destroy property. It wasn't specifically fear or paranoia, it was common sense to have a fire extinguisher incase you needed one.
[QUOTE=darcy010;49616975]It must be hard living in fear all the time.[/QUOTE] Do you have a spare tire in your vehicle? Home/vehicle/health insurance? Do you lock your doors? Etc... I suspect you, like most people, do/have the above things, not because you live your life in fear of what may happen, but rather because you recognize things beyond your control can happen and you would rather have those things and not need them, than vice versa. Now, it's clear you disagree about the merit of having a firearm for this purpose, but you shouldn't put them down for it.
[QUOTE=Crhem van der B;49616978]By "live in" I meant America as a whole. I am going to the US in the summer and I am genuinely unnerved because of all of the shootings. Sounds unreasonable, but then again, you carry weapons to the fucking cinema for the same reason![/QUOTE] People who carry because of mass shootings are paranoid. They are ridiculously unlikely. You are not going to be caught up in a shooting. I say this as someone with a concealed carry permit. Also as someone with a concealed carry permit, there is an excellent chance you are not allowed to carry in the theater. They are almost universally posted as not permitting firearms, which would allow them to, at minimum, trespass you from the facility if they found out.
As someone with a conceal carry permit, why do you have a conceal carry permit if you don't fear being involved in a shooting? America is pretty much a war zone, from a selfish point of view it's actually very understandable that people carry guns for protection.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;49616716]I, for one, want a fighting chance to get myself or my family out of there.[/QUOTE] No you fucking don't lol, stop that shit [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Shitpost" - Big Dumb American))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;49616989]I'm not fear it's just common sense as far as I see it. If there is a danger of something happening, no matter how remote, than figure out how to save yourself. I don't go to Home Depot, buy a fire extinguisher and have the cashier say "It must be hard living in fear all the time." And go figure I've used a fire extinguisher before to stop a fire that could potentially kill someone or destroy property. It wasn't specifically fear or paranoia, it was common sense to have a fire extinguisher incase you needed one.[/QUOTE] Except I don't have to care for stuff like in the OP happening here.
if guns weren't so easily attainable over there you wouldn't have to worry about a mass shooting in a cinema and wouldn't have to take a gun to see a movie.... do you guys like not see that as an issue? :(
[QUOTE=DaMastez;49617016]Do you have a spare tire in your vehicle? Home/vehicle/health insurance? Do you lock your doors? Etc... I suspect you, like most people, do/have the above things, not because you live your life in fear of what may happen, but rather because you recognize things beyond your control can happen and you would rather have those things and not need them, than vice versa. Now, it's clear you disagree about the merit of having a firearm for this purpose, but you shouldn't put them down for it.[/QUOTE] A spare tire does not increase th chance of my tire busting. Or as a parable more close to the OP the spare tire does not pose the danger of hurting me or others at all. OP evidently demostrates that concealed carry does.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;49617283]No you fucking don't lol, stop that shit[/QUOTE] why else would you carry a gun?
[QUOTE=Roag15;49617292]if guns weren't so easily attainable over there you wouldn't have to worry about a mass shooting in a cinema and wouldn't have to take a gun to see a movie.... do you guys like not see that as an issue? :([/QUOTE] I also don't get how that makes people feel safer. I mean, just seeing my own idiocy with things sometimes and then seeing how I am probably still less idiotic than a good portion of the general public. How does your own gun make you feel any safer when you know that every idot can get a gun permit too.
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