• 'Hitler' clothing store stirs anger in India
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[quote]The owner of a new men's clothing store "Hitler" in Ahmedabad, India, is willing to change its name if he would be compensated for his branding expenses. Members of the city's tiny Jewish community condemned the store's name, and an Israeli diplomat said the embassy would raise the matter "in the strongest possible way." Wednesday, August 29th 2012, 01:37 PM [IMG]http://images.newscred.com/1d3e5bf3fbf9c48f1cb4938984fbdc95?width=635&height=350[/IMG] SAM PANTHAKY/AFP/GettyImages A security guard looks on from the roof of the 'Hitler' clothing store in Ahmedabad on August 28, 2012. The owner of an Indian clothing store said Wednesday that he would only change its name from "Hitler" if he was compensated for re-branding costs, amid a growing row over the new shop. The outlet, which sells Western men's wear, opened 10 days ago in Ahmedabad city in the western state of Gujarat with "Hitler" written in big letters over the front and with a Nazi swastika as the dot on the "i". "I will change it (the name) if people want to compensate me for the money we have spent -- the logo, the hoarding, the business cards, the brand," Rajesh Shah told AFP. He put the total costs at about 150,000 rupees ($2,700). Shah insisted that until the store opened he did not know who Adolf Hitler was and that Hitler was a nickname given to the grandfather of his store partner because "he was very strict". "I didn't know how much the name would disturb people," he told AFP by telephone from Ahmedabad. "It was only when the store opened I learnt Hitler had killed six million people." Members of the tiny Jewish community in Ahmedabad condemned the store's name, while a senior Israeli diplomat said the embassy would raise the matter "in the strongest possible way." "People use such names mostly out of ignorance," Israel's Mumbai Consul General Orna Sagiv told AFP. [IMG]http://images.newscred.com/46f56600eecc5242d8518da24e96497b[/IMG] One of the two owners of the 'Hitler' clothing store, Rajesh Shah, arranges clothing in his shop in Ahmedabad on August 28. Esther David, a prominent Indian writer in Ahmedabad who is Jewish, said she was "disturbed and distressed" by the shop, but added that some Indians used the word "Hitler" casually to describe autocratic people. David said Jewish residents had sought to change Shah's mind about the store's name and told him about the Holocaust. The row evoked memories of a controversy six years ago when a Mumbai restaurant owner called his cafe "Hitler's Cross" and put a swastika on the hoarding, claiming Hitler was a "catchy" name. The restaurant owner eventually agreed to change the name after protests by the Israeli embassy, Germany and the US Anti-Defamation League. Hitler attracts an unusual degree of respect in some parts of India, with his book "Mein Kampf" a popular title in bookshops and on street stalls. Gujarat schoolbooks issued by the Hindu nationalist state government were criticised a few years ago for praising Hitler as someone who gave "dignity and prestige" to the German government. [/quote] [URL="http://india.nydailynews.com/newsarticle/503e2d550fd79b7343000026/hitler-clothing-store-stirs-anger-in-india"]source[/URL]
well if it draws customers' attention
just saw this on facebook (posted by yahoo news) the guy has to be taking the piss, i mean the litle swastika on the I tops it all of. How could you not know what it is?
[quote]Hitler attracts an unusual degree of respect in some parts of India, with his book "Mein Kampf" a popular title in bookshops and on street stalls.[/quote] India is a weird place.
I had no idea there were Jews in India.
It should be noted the swastika is a religious symbol is most of asia EDIT: This, however, is the nazi one. See below for examples.
[QUOTE=absolalone111;37456251]just saw this on facebook (posted by yahoo news) the guy has to be taking the piss, i mean the litle swastika on the I tops it all of. How could you not know what it is?[/QUOTE] Because not all the world is homogeneous with Western european history? It's no difference from seeing those hipster maoist themed cocktail bars.
[QUOTE=Chrille;37456256]India is a weird place.[/QUOTE] Hitler talks a lot about the glorious "Aryan" race. The "Aryan" people of history actually settled Iran and India. Hell, the name of Iran means "Land of the Aryans". And so Indians that hear about Hitler booming "their people" (because Hitler had no idea what an actual Aryan is) thinks he's a cool guy.
[quote]Shah insisted that until the store opened he did not know who Adolf Hitler was and that Hitler was a nickname given to the grandfather of his store partner because "he was very strict". "I didn't know how much the name would disturb people," he told AFP by telephone from Ahmedabad. "It was only when the store opened I learnt Hitler had killed six million people." Members of the tiny Jewish community in Ahmedabad condemned the store's name, while a senior Israeli diplomat said the embassy would raise the matter "in the strongest possible way." "People use such names mostly out of ignorance," Israel's Mumbai Consul General Orna Sagiv told AFP.[/quote] "Oh I swear, I had no idea. I am totally innocent" Yeah, you totally just pulled the nazi swastika out of your ass and plopped it on the sign too.
[QUOTE=scout2;37456273]It should be noted the swastika is a religious symbol is most of asia[/QUOTE] Not when it's dotting the eye of "Hitler".
[QUOTE=scout2;37456273]It should be noted the swastika is a religious symbol is most of asia[/QUOTE] Horizontally, yes. THAT is the Nazi Swastika.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;37456274]Because not all the world is homogeneous with Western european history? It's no difference from seeing those hipster maoist themed cocktail bars.[/QUOTE] Still quite a fucking coincidence that he slapped a swastika-sign on his logo, along with the logo being Hitler.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;37456268]I had no idea there were Jews in India.[/QUOTE] They are everywhere
[QUOTE=SnoopDogg;37456327]Still quite a fucking coincidence that he slapped a swastika-sign on his logo, along with the logo being Hitler.[/QUOTE] It's no coincidence. Where did I say it was?
Yea noDachi was meaning that people dont really know what it means fully like the mao themed hipster bars cause mao wasnt really a nice guy either
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;37456318]Not when it's dotting the eye of "Hitler".[/QUOTE] oh yeah that's totally different He did do it on purpose [QUOTE=GunFox;37456322]Horizontally, yes. THAT is the Nazi Swastika.[/QUOTE] Taking a look at it, you're absolutely right.
[QUOTE=scout2;37456273]It should be noted the swastika is a religious symbol is most of asia[/QUOTE] religious swastika [img]http://makeready.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/jainswastika1.png%3Fw%3D450[/img] Nazi swastika [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Nazi_swastika_clean.svg/200px-Nazi_swastika_clean.svg.png[/img] There is a difference.
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[QUOTE=scout2;37456273]It should be noted the swastika is a religious symbol is most of asia[/QUOTE] The Nazi Swastika was twisted, almost as if they knew History had a sick sense of irony.
At least they're not a convenience store that sells "Hitler Did Nothing Wrong"...
I could believe his story about not knowing the history of the name. How many people know where the "rule of thumb" saying came from even though they use that phrase all the time? But when you use the swastika to dot the 'i', that shows knowledge of connection between name and symbol, which is evidence of knowledge of more than just a family nickname. I believe this guy just cleverly decided to use a controversy to stir up publicity and thus business. It's a profit deal, and the fact that he has the balls to ask for payment to not use this name is proof.
I'd call this a successful business venture. I know about the place now and I'm on the other side of the world. Controversy is the best way to sell a product.
[QUOTE=GunFox;37456322]Horizontally, yes. THAT is the Nazi Swastika.[/QUOTE] Doesn't really matter. Nazi's used them clockwise and counterclockwise. And tons of other weird angles and what not. What really is important in what context it is used. As by some defined as a group of Hindus. [T]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Bundesarchiv_Bild_119-0289%2C_M%C3%BCnchen%2C_Hitler_bei_Einweihung_%22Braunes_Haus%22.jpg[/T]
[QUOTE=absolalone111;37456251]just saw this on facebook (posted by yahoo news) the guy has to be taking the piss, i mean the litle swastika on the I tops it all of. How could you not know what it is?[/QUOTE]People outside the West or Israel just don't give a shit about the Holocaust; it never really affected them. Sort of like how most people in Europe aren't all that bothered by the Trail of Tears (for lack of a better example)
[QUOTE=Teddybeer;37457558] [T]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Bundesarchiv_Bild_119-0289%2C_M%C3%BCnchen%2C_Hitler_bei_Einweihung_%22Braunes_Haus%22.jpg[/T][/QUOTE] What a nice bunch of hindus.
I wonder if this place has a Youth department
There's some weird shit happening in India, first a vagina tightening cream and now a store named after Hitler. I would debunk it as a hilarious coincidence if they didn't slap a swastika over the I.
how do you not know who Adolf Hitler is I know India isn't exactly known for its education but come the fuck on
Consider how much our culture is steeped in WWII era material. Movies, games, books, tv shows, we get forcefed a ton of that stuff since we're born. Now consider a non Western culture, who didn't really have much to do with WWII, how much of that stuff do they see? There are people in Japan who don't know about the atrocities the Japanese committed in WWII simply because they were not taught about it while they were growing up. You don't just automatically know something, no matter how important it might be to other people in the world.
That means everybody who was involved in the launch of this brand also didn't know about Hitler. Designers, lawyers, accountants, workers, and so on
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