• Missle Threat to Hawaii False Alarm
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[img]https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/Hawaii-904303.jpg[/img] [quote] The warning, sent to citizens' phones, said: "BALLISTIC MISSILE THREAT INBOUND TO HAWAII. "SEEK IMMEDIATE SHELTER, THIS IS NOT A DRILL." However Hawaii's Emergency Management Agency has said it is, in fact, a false alarm. In a tweet, they said: "NO missile threat to Hawaii." It is currently unclear what caused the false alarm. Sirens are reportedly also sounding as residents scramble to find cover. One person wrote on Twitter: "Please pray for my aunt in Hawaii, they are currently hiding due to missile threats".[/quote] [url]https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/904303/Hawaii-ballistic-missile-threat-warning-drill-launch-attack-USA[/url]
What a fuck up. How did this even happen?
Christ, it scares me to think how much damage someone could do if they hacked these warning messages and started playing nuclear attack type stuff.
Guess they need to update their early warning system
How does a false alarm like this even happen? Did a satellite or something give a false reading? Cuz if that's the case then I have absolutely zero faith in us making it through the next 10 years, unless we have another guy like [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov"]this[/URL] .
Whoever was responsible for that fuck up needs to be fired. If I had lived in Hawaii and saw that, I'd have had a legit panic attack. EDIT: [media]https://www.twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/952246857933221888[/media]
"Whoops"
Hopefully some good comes out of this and people start considering what they would actually do in a real attack instead of brushing it off as "it'll never happen".
I'm from Hawaii (living on the mainland now) and my friends back home were having a good time on Facebook. From my feed: [img]https://i.imgur.com/QNoNzV5.png[/img] [img]https://i.imgur.com/AtBrQB8.png[/img] [img]https://i.imgur.com/hH6mg8J.png[/img] My mom also forwarded the alert to me and I had to explain to her that it was just a false alarm.
holy fucking shit. this is a massive deal. what the fuck is going on? can you imagine what it's like for someone in Hawaii who probably saw at least either Threads, On The Beach, etc to see this alarm become a reality? they're lucky that people didn't commit suicide once the warning kept going for almost an hour
I fucking live in Hawaii and this was actually the most terrifying thing I’ve experienced in my life. How do you accidentally fuck up this badly?
Forget just being fired, this kind of fuckup probably deserves a sentence.
We dont know the full story. Typically intel regarding missile tests from NK aren't released in real time like alerts would be. We dont know what has been said the last few hours, what kind of posturing happened, and if or what "test" happened that could of aligned in the moment with the alert put out. For all we know NK just popped one off into the ocean with a trajectory pointed near Hawaii to cause a "false" alarm. This mass hysteria for blood you all are feeling is unwarranted until you know what really happened. Calm down, react rationally with the information you have. It was a false alarm, but you do not even know why it was a false alarm. Alerts like this aren't going to be put on the airway last minute before an impact, the second theres any reliable possibility someone in charge is going to push an alert out like this. Because no one wants to put an alert out too late, they'd rather put out a false alarm instead of a delayed one..
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;53049930]We dont know the full story. Typically intel regarding missile tests from NK aren't released in real time like alerts would be. We dont know what has been said the last few hours, what kind of posturing happened, and if or what "test" happened that could of aligned in the moment with the alert put out. For all we know NK just popped one off into the ocean with a trajectory pointed near Hawaii to cause a "false" alarm. This mass hysteria for blood you all are feeling is unwarranted until you know what really happened. Calm down, react rationally with the information you have. It was a false alarm, but you do not even know why it was a false alarm. Alerts like this aren't going to be put on the airway last minute before an impact, the second theres any reliable possibility someone in charge is going to push an alert out like this. Because no one wants to put an alert out too late, they'd rather put out a false alarm instead of a delayed one..[/QUOTE] If this was a deliberate provocation by North Korea, and not just a glitch from some early warning system or a fuckup from some hapless employee, then that is much bigger news than the rumors you're trying to downplay. Intentionally firing a ballistic missile at the United States, with the intention of inciting mass panic, can itself be constituted as an act of war demanding a military response. That would be a huge deal under any circumstances, but when we have a commander in chief bragging about how big and powerful his nuclear weapons are to sate his insecurities, it could potentially be catastrophic.
Reminds me when my unis alert system said there was an active shooter and we need to evacuate campus. In two texts and an email followed by a false alarm text
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5iJlVm6IOI[/media] ... holy shit
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;53049998][media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5iJlVm6IOI[/media] ... holy shit[/QUOTE] poor guy. it might seem funny now but he sounds terrified.
Could it have been on purpose to test readiness response due to everything happening with korea?
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;53050023]Could it have been on purpose to test readiness response due to everything happening with korea?[/QUOTE] Do they have drills in hawaii that people know to follow? If not then all that accomplished was a thousand different versions of golf man a few posts up.
[QUOTE=maxumym;53049916]Forget just being fired, this kind of fuckup probably deserves a sentence.[/QUOTE] well its definitely against a law in some states to cause a panic, probably even worse when its on a wide scale like this.
I've got a buddy living in Hawaii. He's in the Navy and it was definitely not a test. He said some jackass literally pressed the wrong button, it was supposed to be a test but he accidentally set off the not a test alarm.
Whoever did this with malicious purposes should face jail time tbh
White house said trump was briefed that it was a state test. So which is it, test or false alarm?
worst is, those types of false alarms i they happen more often, people stop to take threat serious we have each 1st Wednesday in month, at noon, test of alarm system there is joke going on that anyone will invade at that time
The sirens weren't working on K-Bay so we would have all died anyway. RIP
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;53050066]White house said trump was briefed that it was a state test. So which is it, test or false alarm?[/QUOTE] I think they mean that it wasn't a federal emergency alert and it was entirely the states mistake. Iirc states are required to test their emergency systems every month. I'm guessing someone/something fucked up.
Either this was a fuck-up or a planned test to see how people would react. I'm sorta thinking the latter on this one.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;53049845]Christ, it scares me to think how much damage someone could do if they hacked these warning messages and started playing nuclear attack type stuff.[/QUOTE] I'm guessing minimal, since you hear about television broadcast system warnings getting hacked once every few years. You might have a few people have panic attacks, but I feel like there's more to fear from people not taking the warning system seriously when the actual threat comes through. I think if I saw a warning that a nuclear missile was incoming, I'd ignore it off the cuff as a mistake/prank and maybe turn on the news to see if anyone's talking about it. You would need news anchors buying into the false alert and reporting on it as fact to start a panic.
[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;53049857]How does a false alarm like this even happen? Did a satellite or something give a false reading? Cuz if that's the case then I have absolutely zero faith in us making it through the next 10 years, unless we have another guy like [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov"]this[/URL] .[/QUOTE] [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_Mist#Problems_and_closure[/URL] British OTH Radar that was later shut down, kept detecting missiles randomly. Everything was ruled out. No jamming, no faulty equipment, just a "Ghost in the machine." [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duga_radar[/URL] Russian OTH Radar later shut down (Codenamed Steel Yard.) [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_close_calls[/url] There was a case in Greenland where the radar detected a massive attack. What really happened? Beam reflected off the moon. The designers had it setup to track contacts 1-2 thousand miles away. The emitter was powerful enough to reflect off the moon, and the system divided the 200,000 mile return pulse by the original watch distance. We have a number of systems designed to detect missiles. Sometimes they have problems, but usually they are supposed to be reliable. If a detection occurs, you are to act as if it is real until confirmed false, pretty much. It shouldn't have happened, but it did. I'm curious if someone hit the wrong button by mistake to trigger the emergency message, or if the detection equipment reported a false positive and it was treated as real.
wow, 13 days in and we already have a top contender for fuck-up of the year can't even begin to imagine how terrifying it must have been for Hawaiians
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