• White Nationalists March on University of Virginia
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[QUOTE=pentium;52577348]Nazis are bad and you want them to go away, but they're still a hit in pop culture television.[/QUOTE] I'm very confused right now, why are you talking about nazi depictions on tv shows when there's real nazis in the streets hurting and killing people?
[QUOTE=pentium;52577316]It's a bunch of skinheads and klansmen brawling with people on the opposite side of the spectrum. Like this is something new. I can remember demonstrations turning into fights between the KKK and Black Panthers as far back as the 90's.[/QUOTE] Since when do brawls include driving cars into crowds of protesters and murdering people? And people are outraged when the KKK or Black Panthers do violent shit too. So why are you trying to deflect from the situation with them? [QUOTE=pentium;52577348]Nazis are bad and you want them to go away, but they're still a hit in pop culture television.[/QUOTE] Er... How is that even relevant?
[QUOTE=pentium;52577348]Nazis are bad and you want them to go away, but they're still a hit in pop culture television.[/QUOTE] Of course Nazis in television and fiction can fucking stay.... We mean real ones walking in real life... Jesus....
[QUOTE=Alice3173;52577360]Since when do brawls include driving cars into crowds of protesters and murdering people? [/QUOTE] Um since the 1960s. You think one person dying is a huge deal? Read about the civil rights era and riots... This pales in comparison. Shit has been so much worse and I think the media hyping this up so much is a disservice.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;52577356]I'm very confused right now, why are you talking about nazi depictions on tv shows when there's real nazis in the streets hurting and killing people?[/QUOTE] You stated "Yes, I do wish Nazis become irrelevant as quickly as possible.", however that just is not going to happen if they can still be used for alternative values. Actually, nevermind. If you want to feel like you are right and I am disturbed and wrong you can go do that. I'm not going to argue if you are going to try and counter what I say with shitty semantics.
[QUOTE=Aman;52577386]Um since the 1960s. You think one person dying is a huge deal? Read about the civil rights era and riots... This pales in comparison. Shit has been so much worse and I think the media hyping this up so much is a disservice.[/QUOTE] Everyone go home, no one's allowed to complain about Nazi's killing people till it reaches a certain point on the "Aman Danger Scale" (patent pending). Incidentally how many deaths is enough for you to consider them a problem? 100? 1000? When are we allowed to speak up against the Nazis?
[QUOTE=Aman;52577386]Um since the 1960s. You think one person dying is a huge deal? Read about the civil rights era and riots... This pales in comparison. Shit has been so much worse and I think the media hyping this up so much is a disservice.[/QUOTE] I think your definition of "brawl" and mine differ by a great deal. See, in my view a brawl is two people getting into a fist fight. (Or a number of people on two sides getting into a fist fight.) It stops being a brawl when weapons are used. A car, in this instance, being a weapon. And why wouldn't one person dying be a big deal? Someone died. Because of a hateful ideology. If you can't see why that's an issue we should stand up against then I'm really not sure what else I can say to you to convince you otherwise. [editline]15th August 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=pentium;52577399]You stated "Yes, I do wish Nazis become irrelevant as quickly as possible.", however that just is not going to happen if they can still be used for alternative values. Actually, nevermind. If you want to feel like you are right and I am disturbed and wrong you can go do that. I'm not going to argue if you are going to try and counter what I say with shitty semantics.[/QUOTE] You're the one arguing semantics here. Nazis in context of a documentary or even a tv show doesn't equate to being relevant in the context Gwoodman seems to be using. No, in fact he's talking about actual literal Nazis. You know. Like the ones we're condemning at the moment for murdering people who opposed them. The real ones who actually go out and hurt people.
[QUOTE=Aman;52577386]Um since the 1960s. You think one person dying is a huge deal? Read about the civil rights era and riots... This pales in comparison. Shit has been so much worse and I think the media hyping this up so much is a disservice.[/QUOTE] Dang I wish I was as cool and nonchalant as you about nazis killing people. It's not a contest as to what events resulted in more deaths like that somehow invalidates concern over deaths [I]in general.[/I] You really need to stop treating it like one.
[QUOTE=Pascall;52577424]Dang I wish I was as cool and nonchalant as you about nazis killing people. It's not a contest as to what events resulted in more deaths like that somehow invalidates concern over deaths [I]in general.[/I] You really need to stop treating it like one.[/QUOTE] A good fuckton of people in here need to quit that bullshit mindset. This whole thread in a nutshell has been "But What about..."
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;52577404]Everyone go home, no one's allowed to complain about Nazi's killing people till it reaches a certain point on the "Aman Danger Scale" (patent pending). Incidentally how many deaths is enough for you to consider them a problem? 100? 1000? When are we allowed to speak up against the Nazis?[/QUOTE] Maybe once it reaches one microhitler people will do something about it
[QUOTE=Aman;52577386]Um since the 1960s. You think one person dying is a huge deal? Read about the civil rights era and riots... This pales in comparison. Shit has been so much worse and I think the media hyping this up so much is a disservice.[/QUOTE] The fact that it has happened before with a much higher dangerous circumstance should legitimize people being outraged by this as IT'S STILL HAPPENING TODAY, even if it is at a smaller scale, don't allow it to become a norm again. holy shit
[QUOTE=Aman;52577386]Um since the 1960s. You think one person dying is a huge deal? Read about the civil rights era and riots... This pales in comparison. Shit has been so much worse and I think the media hyping this up so much is a disservice.[/QUOTE] That's still one death too many. 19 other people were hurt, would that be enough to give a shit?
[QUOTE=Durrsly;52577469]That's still one death too many. 19 other people were hurt, would that be enough to give a shit?[/QUOTE] There's no way some people didn't leave that scene with PTSD.
[QUOTE=Durrsly;52577469]That's still one death too many. 19 other people were hurt, would that be enough to give a shit?[/QUOTE] Edit: nvm car
[QUOTE=Aman;52577538]19 from the car or 19 just in general? I'm not sure of the numbers. But yeah when people pick fights with each other people get hurt. Who threw the first punches?[/QUOTE] 19 from the car. In all video cases i can find, unclear started or Unite the Right started.
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/Ok8l8I6.jpg[/IMG] Top post on reddit atm...
[QUOTE=Uber22;52577576]Top post on reddit atm...[/QUOTE] It took me way too long to figure out what was wrong with that photo. :v:
[QUOTE=pentium;52577399]You stated "Yes, I do wish Nazis become irrelevant as quickly as possible.", however that just is not going to happen if they can still be used for alternative values. Actually, nevermind. If you want to feel like you are right and I am disturbed and wrong you can go do that. I'm not going to argue if you are going to try and counter what I say with shitty semantics.[/QUOTE] Are you like high or something?
[QUOTE=pentium;52577399]You stated "Yes, I do wish Nazis become irrelevant as quickly as possible.", however that just is not going to happen if they can still be used for alternative values. Actually, nevermind. If you want to feel like you are right and I am disturbed and wrong you can go do that. I'm not going to argue if you are going to try and counter what I say with shitty semantics.[/QUOTE] Shitty semantics? Bro you've been slinging shitty semantics like a Bull with projectile diarrhea.
[QUOTE=Alice3173;52577207]What the hell's a Tankie though? I don't recall ever hearing that term before.[/QUOTE] A communist that vehemently defends the Soviet Union. It was made in reference to those who defended the Soviet invasions of Hungary and Czechoslovakia, where they used tanks against protestors.
[QUOTE=Uber22;52577576][t]https://i.imgur.com/Ok8l8I6.jpg[/t] Top post on reddit atm...[/QUOTE] Should've photoshopped the torch-bearers into dildos to be honest.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;52577684]Should've photoshopped the torch-bearers into dildos to be honest.[/QUOTE] What would they even need to change? They already look like complete dicks to me.
Somebody I know sent me this: [url]http://www.wnd.com/2017/08/the-monumental-lie-about-charlottesville-and-america/[/url] The first impression I'm getting from this article is that it's a massive "what about the left" statement in the form of an article. I think the dude in the article may also be unaware of the fact that Democrats from the Civil War era are nothing like Democrats today.
[QUOTE=Skerion;52577930]Somebody I know sent me this: [url]http://www.wnd.com/2017/08/the-monumental-lie-about-charlottesville-and-america/[/url] The first impression I'm getting from this article is that it's a massive "what about the left" statement in the form of an article. I think the dude in the article may also be unaware of the fact that Democrats from the Civil War era are nothing like Democrats today.[/QUOTE] [url]https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/world-net-daily-wnd/[/url] Lol, apparently MBFC has a [I]lot[/I] to say about that site.
[QUOTE=Alice3173;52577955][url]https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/world-net-daily-wnd/[/url] Lol, apparently MBFC has a [I]lot[/I] to say about that site.[/QUOTE] That's what's gotten me worried, especially about the person that sent this. I feel like he's drowning in so much misinformation, and this feels like a new low.
[QUOTE=fulgrim;52577798]What would they even need to change? They already look like complete dicks to me.[/QUOTE] Make 'em even more vein-y? [editline]15th August 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Skerion;52577930]Somebody I know sent me this: [url]http://www.wnd.com/2017/08/the-monumental-lie-about-charlottesville-and-america/[/url] The first impression I'm getting from this article is that it's a massive "what about the left" statement in the form of an article. I think the dude in the article may also be unaware of the fact that Democrats from the Civil War era are nothing like Democrats today.[/QUOTE] I've had Facebook friends bring up that "Democrats started the KKK!" bullshit as well. They didn't have much to say when I asked them what it was about them that attracted the right-wing.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;52578027]Make 'em even more vein-y? [editline]15th August 2017[/editline] I've had Facebook friends bring up that "Democrats started the KKK!" bullshit as well. They didn't have much to say when I asked them what it was about them that attracted the right-wing.[/QUOTE] Whenever people on my Facebook bring up the Southern Democrats (which they just refer to as "Democrats" for their argument) being pro-slavery and what-not during the Civil War era, they always get really livid and teeth-gnashing. Until I come in and explain the party flip around the turn of the 20th century, how the Southern Democrats and Northern Republicans flipped stances and became, respectively, modern Republicans and modern Democrats; and how people like Abraham Lincoln, who championed and enforced the Emancipation Proclamation and brought to heel the rebellious South and the slave industry, was a Northern Republican; and that Northern Republicans were decidedly along Federalist lines and generally believed in a strong, unified Federal government. Strangely, these people who were chomping at the bit about "Dem racist Democrats!!" and posting several times in an hour fall silent and never respond, even days, after I bring that up. Curious, that, isn't it? :thinking:
[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;52578208]Whenever people on my Facebook bring up the Southern Democrats (which they just refer to as "Democrats" for their argument) being pro-slavery and what-not during the Civil War era, they always get really livid and teeth-gnashing. Until I come in and explain the party flip around the turn of the 20th century, how the Southern Democrats and Northern Republicans flipped stances and became, respectively, modern Republicans and modern Democrats; and how people like Abraham Lincoln, who championed and enforced the Emancipation Proclamation and brought to heel the rebellious South and the slave industry, was a Northern Republican; and that Northern Republicans were decidedly along Federalist lines and generally believed in a strong, unified Federal government. Strangely, these people who were chomping at the bit about "Dem racist Democrats!!" and posting several times in an hour fall silent and never respond, even days, after I bring that up. Curious, that, isn't it? :thinking:[/QUOTE] If I ever try to explain something like that to my dad he would, metaphorically, put his fingers in his ears and say "oh my god you damn liberal stop listening to everything you hear!" and ignore every point I say. He also buys into Trumps whataboutism and calls himself left of center despite being a fucking Reagan republican. You just can't fucking reason with some of them.
VICE News has recently uploaded a video of the front lines of Charlottesville [video=youtube;P54sP0Nlngg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P54sP0Nlngg[/video]
[QUOTE=Retinazer;52578288]VICE News has recently uploaded a video of the front lines of Charlottesville [video=youtube;P54sP0Nlngg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P54sP0Nlngg[/video][/QUOTE] I can't believe the words coming out of these people's mouths. It's fucking vile
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