• Apple Adds "Cop button" to iOS 11 to disable fingerprint scanning
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[url]https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/17/16161758/ios-11-touch-id-disable-emergency-services-lock[/url] [QUOTE]Apple is adding an easy way to quickly disable Touch ID in iOS 11. A new setting, designed to automate emergency services calls, lets iPhone users tap the power button quickly five times to call 911. This doesn’t automatically dial the emergency services by default, but it brings up the option to and also temporarily disables Touch ID until you enter a passcode. Twitter users discovered the new option in the iOS 11 public beta, and The Verge has verified it works as intended. Previously, if you wanted to temporarily disable Touch ID you’d need to restart an iPhone, wait for a few days when the device automatically prompts for the passcode, awkwardly use a different finger a few times to force it to lock out, or just disable Touch ID in settings. Apple’s new method is a far more discreet way of locking out a phone, especially if you’re in a situation where you’re worried someone might force you to unlock your phone.[/QUOTE] The Reason why this is considered a "Cop Button": [URL="https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/05/iphone-fingerprint-search-warrant/480861/"]There is a loophole in current law where they can't make you type in your passcode for your phone, but they can make you fingerprint scan to get into your phone.[/URL] Pressing the power button 5 times in a row shuts off the fingerprint scanner till you unlock the phone with your passcode. This means cops can't force you to unlock your phone when they know it has a fingerprint scanner on it. Get a Warrant. The same gesture also gives the ability to see a medical id if you set one up on the health app (cool for paramedics) and a emergency SOS button where it calls 911 immediately. [video=youtube;FXgunlTSSCc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXgunlTSSCc&feature=youtu.be[/video] If "Auto call" is set to on, instead of giving the medical id ability and stuff like that, it will instead shoot out a really loud siren from your phone while counting down to call 911. [t]http://i.imgur.com/MEttPQe.jpg[/t]
If you encrypt your android or iOS device, it should require passcode on first unlock after boot, so you can turn it off and back on again. But this is much quicker.
Shouts out to silicon valley for moving at lightspeed compared to legislation.
iOS is encrypted by default. But yeah, on android if you power it off fast enough there is that. But this is more useful for crime victims, as it lets you dial 911 very fast WHILE securing your phone.
[QUOTE=Wii60;52593664]The same gesture also gives the ability to see a medical id if you set one up on the health app (cool for paramedics) and a emergency SOS button where it calls 911 immediately. If "Auto call" is set to on, instead of giving the medical id ability and stuff like that, it will instead shoot out a really loud siren from your phone while counting down to call 911.[/QUOTE] That's actually really clever
[QUOTE=MedicWine;52593713]Shouts out to silicon valley for moving at lightspeed compared to legislation.[/QUOTE] You mean private companies are faster than government which is purposefully designed to be slow... No way
[QUOTE=Code3Response;52593825]You mean private companies are faster than government which is purposefully designed to be slow... No way[/QUOTE] No I mean that I've been listening to a lot of podcasts lately where people from that industry talk about there's a shift in power. Something people have been saying ever since the Bernadino phone issue. People then discussed how corporations are building systems on a global scale that the US government fails to control. That if were up to legislation, encryption would mean you have to give a copy of the key to the police, but since companies like Apple won't let that happen, there's nothing that can be done. I might not words very well sometimes but I'm just regurgitating what I've heard from notable people with experience in that field.
if you have an android device you have this feature too. that little lock icon on the bottom of the screen is a switch that forces the device to requires a passcode to unlock the phone [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/YPgSLbO.jpg[/IMG] edit: seems to only work on fingerprint less phones, oh well. (this disables face and watch unlock for me)
[QUOTE=meppers;52594055]if you have an android device you have this feature too. that little lock icon on the bottom of the screen is a switch that forces the device to requires a passcode to unlock the phone [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/YPgSLbO.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] It's not there for me, it's only the mic, camera, and then the fingerprint icon Nexus 6p on 7.1.2
[QUOTE=meppers;52594055]if you have an android device you have this feature too. that little lock icon on the bottom of the screen is a switch that forces the device to requires a passcode to unlock the phone [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/YPgSLbO.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Nexus 6P with fingerprint. Tapping on the fingerprint icon displays the same message as yours, but can still be unlocked immediately after with a fingerprint.
[QUOTE=meppers;52594055]if you have an android device you have this feature too. that little lock icon on the bottom of the screen is a switch that forces the device to requires a passcode to unlock the phone [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/YPgSLbO.jpg[/IMG] edit: seems to only work on fingerprint less phones, oh well. (this disables face and watch unlock for me)[/QUOTE] Holy shit you're right, and here I am being confused by this thinking my phone is bugged again. Stock LineageOS 7.1.2 [editline]20th August 2017[/editline] Galaxy note 3 though so no finger print sens.
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[QUOTE=AkujiTheSniper;52594547]Oh hey this works on my Pixel, thanks for letting me know.[/QUOTE] Pixel user here, doesn't work for me, can still be unlocked with the fingerprint sensor
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;52594886]Pixel user here, doesn't work for me, can still be unlocked with the fingerprint sensor[/QUOTE] Actually I thought it worked but I guess it just didn't read my fingerprint the first time I tested it. Yup, doesn't lock.
Apple's been doing some great security stuff for its customers as of late. I only recently found out that iMessage is automatically end-to-end encrypted, which is awesome. I liked that they've been standing their ground against government snooping and it's good to hear that they're fighting against warrant-less searches.
[QUOTE=Shugo;52594950]Apple's been doing some great security stuff for its customers as of late. I only recently found out that iMessage is automatically end-to-end encrypted, which is awesome. I liked that they've been standing their ground against government snooping and it's good to hear that they're fighting against warrant-less searches.[/QUOTE] Isnt Android and iOS pretty much 1:1 on security, just that most of the stuff is enabled by default on iOS?
[QUOTE=Fox Powers;52594990]Isnt Android and iOS pretty much 1:1 on security, just that most of the stuff is enabled by default on iOS?[/QUOTE] Probably. I don't really follow the Android side since I don't have an Android phone anymore. Doesn't really change anything about what I said.
My phone used to have a button that you could press and it would fake a call from a robo-lady asking if you were busy on loop. But then they patched it out for some reason.
Just checked on my Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge. No such button, but I'm not getting the latest android version for some reason so /shrug.
That loophole is just gross. I hope android follows suit.
For a moment I thought they'd added a button specifically for cops to use to bypass fingerprint access, and I was gonna get [I]real mad[/I]. Glad to know Apple is still fighting against anti-privacy bullshit, though. I may not like the way they design their software, but I can respect the fact that they seem to care about their user's privacy.
When I spam my android's power button is just opens the camera. [I]more poking required[/I]
On Android, rebooting the phone will force pattern/pin unlock afterwards, even when not encrypted. At least on my phone. It's not as fast, but some dev will probably whip up something similar for Android soon.
[QUOTE=meppers;52594055]if you have an android device you have this feature too. that little lock icon on the bottom of the screen is a switch that forces the device to requires a passcode to unlock the phone [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/YPgSLbO.jpg[/IMG] edit: seems to only work on fingerprint less phones, oh well. (this disables face and watch unlock for me)[/QUOTE] This works for me but is almost completely useless as on body and at home detection is inaccurate for me right now that I have to unlock it manually every time. G4 Play on Resurrection Remix 7.1.2
I'm all for cops not getting into my shit unless they have a warrant.
it's totally not a loophole as far as legality is concerned, it's just the fact that laws weren't written with the idea of carrying our entire lives around in our pocket something you know requires a warrant to be compelled, something you have doesn't biometrics count as something you have, even when used to replace something you know
Motorola G5 here, it works.
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