• [NZ] Lawyers, judge listen to Eminem's 'Lose Yourself' in National Party copyright case
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[IMG]https://puu.sh/vBWIe/85d4175e3d.png[/IMG] [QUOTE]The National Party breached copyright by using a piece of production music in a 2014 election advertisement that resembled Eminem's 'Lose Yourself', a court has been told. The hearing between Eight Mile Style and the National Party began in the Wellington High Court on Monday, and is set down for six days. Eight Mile Style alleges the National Party breached several sections of the Copyright Act by using a piece of production music called 'Eminem Esque' it bought from a company called BeatBox. The current hearing is set down to decide whether copyright was breached or not. Any decision on damages will be dealt with at a later date.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Steven Joyce also called the use of the track "[B]pretty legal[/B]" - a statement which was famously mocked by comedian John Oliver.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]'Lose Yourself' was played in court as at least nine lawyers listened in silence. The track was then played again with no lyrics. Mr Williams said this was because the lyrics are irrelevant in a copyright case such as this - [B]all that matters is the music[/B].[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/05/video-lawyers-judge-listen-to-eminem-s-lose-yourself-in-national-party-copyright-case.html"]Source[/URL] Video in Link
holy shit i think i remember seeing this on LastWeekTonight or something [editline]1st May 2017[/editline] fuck i need to read op better. also, i thought shit like this didn't take 3 years to settle
I think they have a case here, actually. Even if you disregard how the alleged infringing piece is called "Eminem Esque" (literally wearing its intentions on its sleeve), it sounds like an instrumental cover on a broken guitar, it even has the additional piano bits.
[media]https://youtu.be/470bdH73TUY[/media] Compare it for yourself, the start is a dead giveaway. John Oliver also made a joke of it. [media]https://youtu.be/3nwnZYX4tB4[/media]
Awww, looks like NZ got rid of their wigs in the court room like most of Australia. Would've been hilarious to seem them wearing full bottom wigs listening to Lose Yourself.
i was disappointed that there wasn't the slightest bit of head nodding or rhythmic movement then i spotted this party animal [img]http://i.imgur.com/snswdhw.gif[/img] she going hard as fuck [QUOTE=Samiam22;52172059]I think they have a case here, actually. Even if you disregard how the alleged infringing piece is called "Eminem Esque" (literally wearing its intentions on its sleeve), it sounds like an instrumental cover on a broken guitar, it even has the additional piano bits.[/QUOTE] NZ could say that they believed it was all cleared + licensed properly (regardless of whether or not they were genuinely misinformed or if it's just an alibi) but yeah it seems pretty impossible to claim the similarities between these two tracks aren't glaringly obvious to say the least
this is such an interesting and complex case. typically, similarity is not enough to violate copyright. however, musicians are entitled to copyright the "expression of ideas", which means that even if the song isn't a direct violation of copyright, even a well-intentioned fair use of the Eminem-esque beat and guitar line could be a violation if the judge rules that the new version emulated the feeling of the original sufficiently
eminem has lost millions of sales through this theft
[QUOTE=Viper_;52173549]eminem has lost millions of sales through this theft[/QUOTE] isn't part of IP rights that you have to defend your own property?
[QUOTE=Camdude90;52174243]isn't part of IP rights that you have to defend your own property?[/QUOTE] People always throw this around but it's not that easy lol. You have to know something was stolen something and is undeniably yours and then not go after them for it if you have the means to. Someone can't take you to court because a kid hummed your tune on youtube and say "GOTCHA! YOU DIDN'T STOP THEM. YOUR PROPERTY IS FORFEIT!"
[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;52174414]People always throw this around but it's not that easy lol. You have to know something was stolen something and is undeniably yours and then not go after them for it if you have the means to. Someone can't take you to court because a kid hummed your tune on youtube and say "GOTCHA! YOU DIDN'T STOP THEM. YOUR PROPERTY IS FORFEIT!"[/QUOTE] well obviously scale is important but if it's a commercial on tv like it is in this case i assume it's well within your interest to protect your property rights
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