• Princeton cancels ‘hate speech’ class after professor uses ‘N-word,’ student shouts ‘F- you’
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[quote]Princeton University has canceled a class on hate speech after a verbal altercation between a student and a professor in which the N- and F-words were used. In an email obtained by the Weekly Standard, professor emeritus Lawrence Rosen informed students that he had “reluctantly” decided to cancel Anthropology 212, “Cultural Freedoms: Hate Speech, Blasphemy and Pornography.” “I think it’s only fair that you be free, before too much of the semester has passed, to move ahead in another course of your choosing,” Mr. Rosen wrote in the Feb. 12 missive. .... According to audio recordings of the class obtained by the Daily Princetonian, Mr. Rosen presented students with a hypothetical about 10 minutes into the lecture: “Which is more provocative: A white man walks up to a black man and punches him in the nose, or a white man walks up to a black man and calls him a n–-r?” Students said he used the racial slur two additional times throughout the course of the discussion. Several students reportedly walked out of the lecture. There were about six black students in the class, the Princetonian reported. When one male student asked the professor if he would continue to use the word, Mr. Rosen reportedly responded, “Yes, if I think it’s necessary.” The professor said the word was “supposed to deliver a gut punch.” The male student left the classroom but returned shortly thereafter to confront Mr. Rosen, standing inches from his face and shouting, “F– you!” The decision to cancel the class comes less than a week after Carolyn Rouse, chair of the anthropology department at Princeton, defended her colleague’s use of the word. “The students signed up for a course about hate speech, blasphemy, and pornography, so Tuesday’s class introduced them to the topics of the course,” Ms. Rouse, who is black, wrote in the Princetonian. “Like every semester, at Princeton or Columbia Law, professor Lawrence Rosen started the class by breaking a number of taboos in order to get the students to recognize their emotional response to cultural symbols.” ...[/quote] [url]https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/13/lawrence-rosen-princeton-professor-cancels-free-sp/[/url]
what an absolute joke. point went straight over their head. why even sign up for it if you don't expect that?
I see nothing wrong in this personally what did they think that class was for? They are going to be educated about those specific things and their reaction proved the point of the class imo?
Bad Idea
If the class is about hate speech and cultural freedoms I would be surprised if the word nigger wasn't brought up. He was on topic and didn't use it in a derogative manner so I don't see what's wrong.
Because fuck context. If you use the word even for educational reasons, you're a RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!
Fucking universities man
I mean I'm in a Queer cinema class, we use faggot commonly because we have to. But continue to extrapolate this one class to the entirety of the left tudd. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Off Topic" - Kiwi))[/highlight]
If you take a class on hate speech when even the mere utterance of the word 'nigger', regardless of context, gets you completely pissy, I start to wonder how your brain works.
cancel the internet too
I guess this just proves the professor has a point, still I think this is not the way he'd want it to go down. [QUOTE=Lambeth;53131213]I mean I'm in a Queer cinema class, we use faggot commonly because we have to. But continue to extrapolate this one class to the entirety of the left tudd.[/QUOTE] Does anyone else read the article, come to no conclusion besides the one presented in the article, then scroll down to read comments that point out Tudd's shady conspiracy and how he plans to crush the left by posting such articles on SH? I feel like this is some big joke I'm just not allowed in on. It's kinda grating to see Tudd discussed in every Tudd post as opposed to the actual contents of the article. If this is really a big plan to dismantle the left, you're actually helping him by acting like a conspiracy theorist around him lmfao
Some people just [i]want[/i] to be offended.
[QUOTE=MrHeadHopper;53131270]I guess this just proves the professor has a point, still I think this is not the way he'd want it to go down. Does anyone else read the article, come to no conclusion besides the one presented in the article, then scroll down to read comments that point out Tudd's shady conspiracy and how he plans to crush the left by posting such articles on SH? I feel like this is some big joke I'm just not allowed in on. It's kinda grating to see Tudd discussed in every Tudd post as opposed to the actual contents of the article. If this is really a big plan to dismantle the left, you're actually helping him by acting like a conspiracy theorist around him lmfao[/QUOTE] I am just very tired of this conservative pearl clutching when it comes to these isolated cases. Tudd isn't the only one doing it, the right wing fearosphere can't fucking shut up about this stuff.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;53131213]I mean I'm in a Queer cinema class, we use faggot commonly because we have to. But continue to extrapolate this one class to the entirety of the left tudd.[/QUOTE] Don't tell me that you are studying gender studies or something in that direction, 'cause that would explain one hell of a lot.
I hope the student faced disciplinary action for disrupting class and accosting a professor like that
[QUOTE=Jordax;53131294]Don't tell me that you are studying gender studies or something in that direction, 'cause that would explain one hell of a lot.[/QUOTE] Animation degree, but I'm required to take a few film studies classes Edit: oh yeah last class we watched a film about gay nazi bikers and we managed to deal with it somehow
Well how were they supposed to know a class about hate speech would contain discussions about hate speech? Clearly it is the professor's fault for not warning them ahead of time.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;53131291]I am just very tired of this conservative pearl clutching when it comes to these isolated cases. Tudd isn't the only one doing it, the right wing fearosphere can't fucking shut up about this stuff.[/QUOTE] [B]It's SH[/B], shut up and discuss topics, not posters. Everybody knows Tudd has a bias just like every other person here has a bias in some direction. For every right-wing glorifying thread there's a left-wing one as well. Who the hell cares dude? It's literally a board made to post headlines of any type on. On topic, surely if the name of the class wasn't enough wouldn't the course description and syllabus straight up tell you that you would be hearing words with bad histories and definitions to study their connotations?
Doesn't anyone know anymore? In America you're racist for just being born white. But you can't call out the racism against you because it's impossible for white people to ever experience racism. :downs: Also you can't talk about racism as a white person either. It's off limits.
what a bunch of pansies--what, when a kid says that in a game lobby do they cancel their Live/PSN subscription?
I'm wondering how many students even read what the fuck they were signing up for. It's literally in the damn name of the course. Like, I do believe in not needlessly upsetting people but at the same time, I feel like some people's entire purpose for living is to feel offended, if that statement makes any sense to y'all. Plus, why the hell would you sign up for a hate speech class, a place where the discussion of hate speech is the entire point, if the idea of hate speech bothers you THAT much?
[QUOTE=Lambeth;53131291]I am just very tired of this conservative pearl clutching when it comes to these isolated cases. Tudd isn't the only one doing it, the right wing fearosphere can't fucking shut up about this stuff.[/QUOTE] "Someone on my side of the political spectrum did something dumb and someone on the other side pointed it out, clearly it's a CONSPIRACY to destroy everything I believe in. People should NOT talk about my people's mistakes." Kinda sounds like /pol/shit tbh. Chill out, everyone is fallible no matter the political beliefs, and someone highlighting your side's fuckups doesn't mean the Fifth Reich is about to get you. If anything they're doing you a favor (not the nazis ofc), a major part of self-improvement comes from facing your (or your comrades') mistakes and working to fix them. To pretend your camp is flawless and to screech at the ones pointing out the contrary, is a step towards extremism.
[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;53131396]"Someone on my side of the political spectrum did something dumb and someone on the other side pointed it out, clearly it's a CONSPIRACY to destroy everything I believe in. People should NOT talk about my people's mistakes." Kinda sounds like /pol/shit tbh. Chill out, everyone is fallible no matter the political beliefs, and someone highlighting your side's fuckups doesn't mean the Fifth Reich is about to get you. If anything they're doing you a favor (not the nazis ofc), a major part of self-improvement comes from facing your (or your comrades') mistakes and working to fix them. To pretend your camp is flawless and to screech at the ones pointing out the contrary, is a step towards extremism.[/QUOTE] I really hate this "side" idea tbh
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;53131400]I really hate this "side" idea tbh[/QUOTE] We live in a time where politics are polarized to hell and back and only seem to be getting worse. Shit sucks, but it's a reality we must acknowledge.
Ok don't go around using a ⏩⏩B gut punch like "nigger" if you're not ready to take an AB⤴️ uppercut into ↘️↗️B grapple "fuck you" combo. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("terrible post" - Kiwi))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;53131256]If you take a class on hate speech when even the mere utterance of the word 'nigger', regardless of context, gets you completely pissy, I start to wonder how your brain works.[/QUOTE] IMO you don't [I]have[/I] to say it. You can teach a lesson without using the word itself, just as you can teach sex ed without showing explicit, sexual material. I'd be a bit uncomfortable if a professor seemed to get a little cozy with saying too much. Would he explicitly have the class watch pornography as part of that segment or just discuss it? Saying "it's supposed to offend you" or "deliver a punch" shouldn't be your only excuse, IMO. [editline]14th February 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=Solo Wing;53131393]I'm wondering how many students even read what the fuck they were signing up for. It's literally in the damn name of the course. Like, I do believe in not needlessly upsetting people but at the same time, I feel like some people's entire purpose for living is to feel offended, if that statement makes any sense to y'all. Plus, why the hell would you sign up for a hate speech class, a place where the discussion of hate speech is the entire point, if the idea of hate speech bothers you THAT much?[/QUOTE] It's not the idea, but it itself. You can teach a subject on hate speech without using it, and want to learn about it and why it's used without being subjected to it in this way.
So did the "Fuck You" Student get a 100? Or did he fail when he walked out first? :v: Its still pretty hilarious how people just walked out of the class or asked the Prof if he would use the n-word more. Would be funny to see him do the same teaching but "censor" every bad word.
Like the student, from what we're told, definitely seemed to have flipped out a bit too much, but still.
[QUOTE=01271;53131485]Ok don't go around using a ⏩⏩B gut punch like "nigger" if you're not ready to take an AB⤴️ uppercut into ↘️↗️B grapple "fuck you" combo.[/QUOTE] Or you can stop using those ideas and think for yourself [editline]14th February 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=01271;53131485]Ok don't go around using a ⏩⏩B gut punch like "nigger" if you're not ready to take an AB⤴️ uppercut into ↘️↗️B grapple "fuck you" combo.[/QUOTE] What meme shit is this?
[QUOTE=LegndNikko]You can teach a lesson without using the word itself, just as you can teach sex ed without showing explicit, sexual material.[/QUOTE] it'd be a real shitty fucking lesson then you do things right and because you care about actually teaching the shit or you don't do them at all and get someone else who does
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