• BMW to issue stop-sale / recall on all BMW i3 models sold in America
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[QUOTE]Over the weekend rumors started floating around on social media about a possible stop-sale and recall on all the BMW i3’s sold in the United States of America. This morning BMW came out with an official statement, confirming that, during recent testing by the National Highway Safety Administration, it was discovered that the BMW i3 (BEV and REx) marginally exceeded one particularly edge case of the many Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard criteria with respect to frontal impact performance. According to NHTSA testing, the issue is related to frontal crash protection for the ‘5th percentile female’ drivers when they do not wear their seatbelt. 5th percentile females are categorized as around 5 feet tall and weighing 110 pounds. This group is at a marginally higher risk of sustaining neck injuries than is allowed in case of a frontal collision when they are not wearing their seatbelt. Wearing your seatbelt is mandatory in all but one state in the U.S. –New Hampshire is the exception. ... The stop-sale and recall adds up to quite a sizable and expensive problem for BMW USA. We have reached out to the company for comment and as of yet, there does not seem to be a straightforward solution to it. BMW is working on it though. Of course, there is a very simple and straightforward solution for current owners, just wear your seatbelt when you drive a BMW i3, or any other car for that matter – especially if you are a 5′ tall 110lb female.[/QUOTE] [url]https://electrek.co/2017/11/20/bmw-to-issue-stop-sale-and-recall-on-bmw-i3-models-sold-in-america/[/url]
These things are hideous, stupid little cars but they shouldn't be recalled because of some retards refusing to wear their seatbelts. No excuse for that shit. In my opinion if you refuse to wear your seatbelt you are solely responsible for whatever injuries you sustain in a collision.
[quote]According to NHTSA testing, the issue is related to frontal crash protection for the ‘5th percentile female’ drivers when they do not wear their seatbelt. 5th percentile females are categorized as around 5 feet tall and weighing 110 pounds. [/quote] This is the dumbest reason for a recall I've ever seen. [QUOTE=Grenadiac;52909021]These things are hideous, stupid little cars but they shouldn't be recalled because of some retards refusing to wear their seatbelts. No excuse for that shit. In my opinion if you refuse to wear your seatbelt you are solely responsible for whatever injuries you sustain in a collision.[/QUOTE] Yeah, my cousin is one of those guys that thinks a seat belt will decapitate you or cut you in half during a collision. So whenever he got in the car with me, and refused to buckle up, I'd brake check on the interstate to slam his face into the dash. After about 2 weeks he started habitually buckling up :v:
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;52909059]This is the dumbest reason for a recall I've ever seen. Yeah, my cousin is one of those guys that thinks a seat belt will decapitate you or cut you in half during a collision. So whenever he got in the car with me, and refused to buckle up, I'd brake check on the interstate to slam his face into the dash. After about 2 weeks he started habitually buckling up :v:[/QUOTE] I had a mate of mine do this as well, I took off from the curb at 10km/h and slammed on the brakes. Naturally went into the dash, started yelling at me, and I told him, "That was 10, imagine what 100km/h feels like" my car at the time had no airbags. Always wore one after that.
[quote]According to NHTSA testing, the issue is related to frontal crash protection for the ‘5th percentile female’ drivers when they do not wear their seatbelt.[/quote] So BMW is recalling cars because people who aren't following basic road rules might get seriously hurt? Is this for fucking real?
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;52909399]So BMW is recalling cars because people who aren't following basic road rules might get seriously hurt? Is this for fucking real?[/QUOTE] Yep. Turns out the standards we hold car manufacturers to do account for dumbasses. And BMW failed to meet the minimum for "not turning idiots into quadriplegics."
It's such a pointless test too, it's only done at 25 or 30 mph which I'm assuming simulates idiots who go "oh, my mom told me to go to the store and grab some milk, it's right around the corner why would I wear the dumb belt?". [video=youtube;QYBJLSkm3Y4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYBJLSkm3Y4[/video]
[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;52909532]It's such a pointless test too, it's only done at 25 or 30 mph which I'm assuming simulates idiots who go "oh, my mom told me to go to the store and grab some milk, it's right around the corner why would I wear the dumb belt?". [video=youtube;QYBJLSkm3Y4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYBJLSkm3Y4[/video][/QUOTE] ... car wrecks happen quite a bit at pretty much all speeds. And in fact most wrecks iirc happen relatively close to home as overconfidence plays in, meaning that for a lot of suburb etc. communities 30 would often be the limit. That might honestly be just about where wrecks most commonly occur at.
Buckling up is such a simple, easy thing to do it boggles my mind we still have people who think they're safer unbuckled. Hell, even in my '85 F150, if everyone in the cab is buckled in they stand a reasonable chance of surviving a full frontal 35MPH crash. It won't do as well as a 2017 F150, I'll freely admit, but it won't be a guaranteed death either. And it lacks airbags, crumple zones, the engine's a three foot long chunk of cast iron that's going to come through the dash in a heartbeat, yatta yatta, its platform was designed back when 'crash safety' meant 'making the car as stiff as possible' and they hadn't gotten around to updating it for MY1985. Now, figuring that they make a vehicle that old reasonably safe, and coupling them with all the other advancements people have come up with over the years for protecting people from themselves when cars go awry, and it's a wonder we still have morons that think the seatbelt shouldn't be worn. I have no sympathy for people who get hurt in a car crash because they didn't buckle up. It's their own damn fault, no different than someone getting neutered trying to stop a chainsaw with their junk, or burning their house down by playing with axe body spray and a zippo. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, and I don't have it in me to be sympathetic to people who get hurt in a crash because they can't take five seconds to buckle up before the car moves. No, my sympathy falls to the friends, family, bystanders, and emergency responders that have to clean up the mess and pick up the pieces.
[QUOTE=Bradyns;52909340]I had a mate of mine do this as well, I took off from the curb at 10km/h and slammed on the brakes. Naturally went into the dash, started yelling at me, and I told him, "That was 10, imagine what 100km/h feels like" my car at the time had no airbags. Always wore one after that.[/QUOTE] Great friend right here, not even being sarcastic.
[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;52909532]It's such a pointless test too, it's only done at 25 or 30 mph which I'm assuming simulates idiots who go "oh, my mom told me to go to the store and grab some milk, it's right around the corner why would I wear the dumb belt?".[/QUOTE] I once had to go just a small distance which actually wouldn't really need the seatbelt at all. Ended up putting it on anyway because it didn't feel right to drive any distance without it. The seatbelt should be a part of you whenever you're in a car.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52910296]... car wrecks happen quite a bit at pretty much all speeds.[/QUOTE] Majority at low speeds, actually. And more going in reverse than forward.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;52909059]Yeah, my cousin is one of those guys that thinks a seat belt will decapitate you or cut you in half during a collision. So whenever he got in the car with me, and refused to buckle up, I'd brake check on the interstate to slam his face into the dash. After about 2 weeks he started habitually buckling up :v:[/QUOTE] You're a dick :v: Seriously though, good on you. Might save his life.
It's literally instinct for me to buckle up the moment I get into any car. I cannot imagine why you wouldn't take 2 seconds to fasten your seatbelt and greatly reduce your odds of suffering grave injuries in case of a crash.
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;52915996]It's literally instinct for me to buckle up the moment I get into any car. I cannot imagine why you wouldn't take 2 seconds to fasten your seatbelt and greatly reduce your odds of suffering grave injuries in case of a crash.[/QUOTE] Me too, it's pretty much automatic. Once I moved a car in my cousins backyard like 2 meters and I realized after moving it that I had my seatbelt on.
[QUOTE=Morgen;52909013][QUOTE]Wearing your seatbelt is mandatory in all but one state in the U.S. –New Hampshire is the exception.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE] what the fuck, new hampshire
[QUOTE=SgtTupelo;52916321]Me too, it's pretty much automatic. Once I moved a car in my cousins backyard like 2 meters and I realized after moving it that I had my seatbelt on.[/QUOTE] Same, I did it just the other day to move my car into the garage. It's a blind habit now. Just the other day, an 18 year old kid lost control of his truck, crashed into the middle barrier, went head over heels and landed on top of a oncoming CRV. The people in the CRV were hurt but survived. The kid in the truck was thrown from his vehicle and pronounced dead at the scene. It's just a horrible waste for something that takes 5 seconds.
[QUOTE=Xyrec;52916323]what the fuck, new hampshire[/QUOTE] The state's moto is "Life free or die." It's even on their license plates.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;52917022]The state's moto is "Life free or die." It's even on their license plates.[/QUOTE] Less of a choice than a random chance, I suppose.
Legit fuck you if you don't wear your seatbelt. Not only do you risk dying from something completely preventable but you endanger anyone else in the ride while getting flung around. My seatbelt is the only reason I am alive after flipping about 4 times, I would've broke my neck otherwise. [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/iRcnnQgl.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/S9g8uxBl.jpg[/IMG]
^ holy hell what hit you there was an accident just in front of my development last may where a road forks and the kid passed out and ran straight into a solid steel post, he had his seatbelt on and walked away, his girlfriend didn't and was thrown through the windshield and killed its just not worth the risk to ignore seatbelts
[QUOTE=Sableye;52917464]^ holy hell what hit you[/QUOTE] Dodge Dakota truck pulled out infront of me from the median while I was going 55MPH. I swerve out of the way and he never stopped, as a result it was a mixture of me hitting his front and him t boning me. I got out with just cuts and bruises. The kid had a revoked license and no insurance. I'm alright though, the 4runner got replaced with a 97 Ford Explorer and I still got a few months of medical I can claim.
[QUOTE=Xyrec;52916323]what the fuck, new hampshire[/QUOTE] "Live Free Or Die". Technically, it's only legal for those 18+, so might as well put an * next to that statement. We don't require helmets on bikes either. Although then we also have safety & emission tests annually. We kinda have a lot of ironic or contradictory laws here.
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