EAC vs. VAC - Rust - Facepunch Forum

So, like Garry said in the latest bug, Rust will use EAC in stead of/togheter with VAC. Anyone knows why EAC would be better than VAC?

VAC isnt a rookit. It does not have full access to your PC nor can it scan certain ways that invade your privacy. EAC is different. It's technically a rootkit, and[B] can[/B] and [B]will [/B] do a lot of things to your PC that makes it much more thorough in searching for cheats.

[QUOTE=zerothefallen;44969566]VAC isnt a rookit. It does not have full access to your PC nor can it scan certain ways that invade your privacy. EAC is different. It's technically a rootkit, and[B] can[/B] and [B]will [/B] do a lot of things to your PC that makes it much more thorough in searching for cheats.[/QUOTE] Dumb avatar/signature or whatever it is.Too long. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Shitpost" - Craptasket))[/highlight]

I don't think VAC will be going anywhere, it'll still do its thing in the background, or at least I'd assume so. EAC will be much faster though, kicking/banning people right away when they cheat rather than taking the slower approach like VAC. EDIT: Joke, someone else changed his title to the crazy long thing. It's not his fault.

It's EAC's full time job

EAC seems to have an amazing job if its pissing off people. Sounds just like my boss I used to work for.

[QUOTE=Teddybeer;44970204]EAC wins already by pissing off cheaters before its even used. Good work EAC guys.[/QUOTE] Well, my only complaint is Avast seems to think it's a virus. lol [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/gLtSHU7.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Clinched Butt;44976095]Well, my only complaint is Avast seems to think it's a virus. lol [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/gLtSHU7.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] As zerothefallen more or less said, that's because EAC acts like malware in order to get behind the curtain and watch what Rust (and anything injecting itself into Rust) does in a comprehensive way. It's not harmful, but it uses some of the same tricks. Avast suspects that it's a "generic" virus (Win32:evo-[B]gen[/B]), since EAC doesn't have any payload similar to viruses, only the same kind of stealth behaviour. Hell, anti-virus software acts like a rootkit; it integrates itself into the system and starts policing it and doing things the OS doesn't know about. It just so happens to be software you, the user, do intend to have installed and running. This is also why you're supposed to uninstall one anti-virus before installing its replacement if you switch programs, and not the other way around.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;44976232]As zerothefallen more or less said, that's because EAC acts like malware in order to get behind the curtain and watch what Rust (and anything injecting itself into Rust) does in a comprehensive way. It's not harmful, but it uses some of the same tricks. Avast suspects that it's a "generic" virus (Win32:evo-[B]gen[/B]), since EAC doesn't have any payload similar to viruses, only the same kind of stealth behaviour. Hell, anti-virus software acts like a rootkit; it integrates itself into the system and starts policing it and doing things the OS doesn't know about. It just so happens to be software you, the user, do intend to have installed and running. This is also why you're supposed to uninstall one anti-virus before installing its replacement if you switch programs, and not the other way around.[/QUOTE] Definitely seems like a good anti-cheat system. Thanks for the explanation!

Can't wait for this to be fully implemented. The resulting stories along the lines of "plz unban meh, I sneezed and in the sneeze spasm hit buttons that somehow made EAC ban me!" will add some variety to the usual bi-weekly "got banned for nothing" wave. While wanting variety in the excuses is bad, the fact they actually do so is good and a sign that its working.

[QUOTE=SteakStyles;44976365]Can't wait for this to be fully implemented. The resulting stories along the lines of "plz unban meh, I sneezed and in the sneeze spasm hit buttons that somehow made EAC ban me!" will add some variety to the usual bi-weekly "got banned for nothing" wave. While wanting variety in the excuses is bad, the fact they actually do so is good and a sign that its working.[/QUOTE] I'm just sick of getting headshot over and over, even inside of my base( with no windows mind you). Tired of grown ass folks running around talking about how awesome they are when all they did was spend money on a hack and have no talent like the rest of us :).

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;44976232]As zerothefallen more or less said, that's because EAC acts like malware in order to get behind the curtain and watch what Rust (and anything injecting itself into Rust) does in a comprehensive way. It's not harmful, but it uses some of the same tricks. Avast suspects that it's a "generic" virus (Win32:evo-[B]gen[/B]), since EAC doesn't have any payload similar to viruses, only the same kind of stealth behaviour. Hell, anti-virus software acts like a rootkit; it integrates itself into the system and starts policing it and doing things the OS doesn't know about. It just so happens to be software you, the user, do intend to have installed and running. This is also why you're supposed to uninstall one anti-virus before installing its replacement if you switch programs, and not the other way around.[/QUOTE] Find it hilarious I was rated dumb for some odd reason. EAC itself has access to both ring3 and ring0. This is why it's effective. It can scan more than just CSGO's memory, it can scan all of it.

Why are image macros not allowed but zerothefallen's stupid avatar is? That's why you (Zero) gets rated dumb, fyi. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Dumb" - SteveUK))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Warm;44980353]Why are image macros not allowed but zerothefallen's stupid avatar is? That's why you (Zero) gets rated dumb, fyi.[/QUOTE] Maybe if you read above you wouldn't look so dumb right now.

[QUOTE=Warm;44980353]Why are image macros not allowed but zerothefallen's stupid avatar is? That's why you (Zero) gets rated dumb, fyi.[/QUOTE] zerothefallen did not change his own title to that. Someone else did back when you could pay to change other peoples' titles. Know what's going on before you rate people dumb for something entirely unrelated to the topic at hand, please.

So what happens to all the banned rust accounts? Since VAC is being scrapped will they be unbanned?

[QUOTE=Sievers808;44980441]zerothefallen did not change his own title to that. Someone else did back when you could pay to change other peoples' titles. Know what's going on before you rate people dumb for something entirely unrelated to the topic at hand, please.[/QUOTE] Still dumb even if I missed your post. Maybe if I didn't have to turbo scroll because of shitty avatars I would not have missed your post.

[QUOTE=AJ10017;44980644]So what happens to all the banned rust accounts? Since VAC is being scrapped will they be unbanned?[/QUOTE] VAC will still be active

Then install one of the billion scripts which break sigs with tamermonkey. Not his fault. Back on topic, EAC looks lovely to piss off soccer moms/cheaters.

[QUOTE=Warm;44980703]Still dumb even if I missed your post. Maybe if I didn't have to turbo scroll because of shitty avatars I would not have missed your post.[/QUOTE] Maybe you should stop posting about it, its not related to the thread topic. As for the EAC thing, I can see you guys being happy and all about it, but its as easy to bypass as it is to bypass punkbuster. v:v:v

[QUOTE=utilitron;44980822]VAC will still be active[/QUOTE] [QUOTE] It's EAC's full time job[/QUOTE] I hope vac will still be used

It will.

[QUOTE=zerothefallen;44979677]Find it hilarious I was rated dumb for some odd reason. EAC itself has access to both ring3 and ring0. This is why it's effective. It can scan more than just CSGO's memory, it can scan all of it.[/QUOTE] The mass dumb vote is because of your avatar and signature.

[QUOTE=TP_MoonStar;44982377]The mass dumb vote is because of your avatar and signature.[/QUOTE] [url]http://userstyles.org/styles/65192/facepunch-fixer[/url] There.

[QUOTE=TP_MoonStar;44982377]The mass dumb vote is because of your avatar and signature.[/QUOTE] it's a title. I can't fix it, nor do i care.

[QUOTE=Bitl;44982482][url]http://userstyles.org/styles/65192/facepunch-fixer[/url] There.[/QUOTE] Thanks mate. At least someone who actually do somenthing else than dumb vote for no reason. (Makes me wonder why fp didnt fix the forum template yet.)

If you VAC banned, in fact you are banned by Big Boss. If you EAC banned, in such a case you banned by Little Brother. Not as solid as the Big Boss. as you can see, not much difference.