Any information on hosting servers? I work for hosting company. - Rust

I am employed by a hosting company; my boss and I bought Rust and are curious on how we would go about getting on the official server list; and the files. We have high-end servers and plenty of infrastructure / bandwidth to host...more than ample, from what we've researched. Unfortunately... we find absolutely no information on how to go about hosting servers (beta keys, etc.). Is there a method or person to email concerning this? Only option we see available is to post here and ask. Please PM me for corporate email & information.

Rust Creators was make the server creating need a key. And they give the keys just a few company to create server. I think you should sent a mail to rust creators.

Nice name, lynchpin...

At the moment they're basically not handing out server file access to any more GSPs. The files aren't ready for prime time so they're keeping them within a tight circle for the time being. I expect this will change as development progresses.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;45010530]At the moment they're basically not handing out server file access to any more GSPs. The files aren't ready for prime time so they're keeping them within a tight circle for the time being. I expect this will change as development progresses.[/QUOTE] There's 1400 servers? Seems quite excessive for a limited distribution. And the name is a song, actually. [editline]5th June 2014[/editline] Not to undermine you in any manner, just an observation. Quite a lot of tools / admin mods written for it. We would be willing to help in the development process; we assumed it would be part of distro. Not to mention there's only a handful - well, one that I found - near our datacenter in Orlando. [editline]5th June 2014[/editline] Out of curiousity, are you a representative of facepunch? Again...just doesn't sound right in text. I'm not trying to be rude, just may appear to be so (gotta love text)

[QUOTE=lynchpin;45010737]There's 1400 servers? Seems quite excessive for a limited distribution. And the name is a song, actually. [editline]5th June 2014[/editline] Not to undermine you in any manner, just an observation. Quite a lot of tools / admin mods written for it. We would be willing to help in the development process; we assumed it would be part of distro. Not to mention there's only a handful - well, one that I found - near our datacenter in Orlando.[/QUOTE] I think there's more like 6000 servers. At this stage of development with the experimental branch being priority #1, I seriously doubt any more GSPs will be added to the lineup until after it is finished and in a playable state. You'll probably have better luck then. Elix, nor I, are associated with FP in any way. We are just gold members because it makes me feel better about my sad life. :zoid:

Any quick information pertaining to the experimental branch? Such as a url or thread. About to submit a bug, while I'm on the message board. [editline]5th June 2014[/editline] Let me emphasize the fact that we're not a fly-by-night, mom and pops hosting company. :P

There's a bug reports subforum made for submissions like that. As for info about the experimental, check the game's main site for the devblogs at playrust.com. You can also check the [URL="https://trello.com/b/lG8jtz6v/rust-main"]Rust Trello[/URL] pages for more stuff that's a bit more behind-the-scenes.

[QUOTE=lynchpin;45010836]Any quick information pertaining to the experimental branch? Such as a url or thread. About to submit a bug, while I'm on the message board. [editline]5th June 2014[/editline] Let me emphasize the fact that we're not a fly-by-night, mom and pops hosting company. :P[/QUOTE] be that as it may: facepunch studios ltd is currently not adding any more hosts at this time if you have any more questions drop postal a visitor message

Drop postal a visitor message? And I still ahven't seen or read a definite "No" from a FP rep. [editline]5th June 2014[/editline] Community isn't much different than in-game, it seems. [editline]5th June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Sievers808;45010883]There's a bug reports subforum made for submissions like that. As for info about the experimental, check the game's main site for the devblogs at playrust.com. You can also check the [URL="https://trello.com/b/lG8jtz6v/rust-main"]Rust Trello[/URL] pages for more stuff that's a bit more behind-the-scenes.[/QUOTE] OK cool, thanks!

You won't get a definite answer. [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1323565"]This thread was co-opted into being a "beg for server file access" thread and is 675 replies long.[/URL] I haven't read it all, but I'm pretty sure none of them were given a direct response. Lack of a response is a response in itself. Hundreds, if not over a thousand, requests from different hosts around the world have been made. Some of those have been morons wanting to run a server on an i7 they have because they don't want to pay a host, but a large portion are legit game host providers like you. There's no way to say this without it sounding rude, so understand I'm not being hostile, but get in line.

OK, understood. I couldn't find a thread on the subject' guess my search string was too goofy. Appears to me that a lot of the servers are a bit shoddy...then again, I've never paid for an alpha, either o.0. Or even seen a public alpha worth mentioning. Looks like it's going well, though.

Slightly OT: Maybe I misunderstood you Elix, but are you implying a VM server is better than a dedicated i7 box? Or are you implying that these i7 owners were all on home connections. versus datacenters. Supermicro makes some i7 servers vs Xeon alone.

I'm saying they were people who wanted to host a server out of their house instead of paying a GSP. Or they were rushing to get in on the gold rush on Rust server hosting and hadn't even finished page 4 of "Game Hosting for Dummies" before posting, that's a possibility for at least a few cases. The use of an i7 as a host machine is not the single defining factor; they either flat-out admitted it or were too dumb to be a real GSP. Especially when they only asked for [I]one[/I] server instance. :v:

You're still making assumptions that private server owners aren't as Smart as a gsp. In what sense? More, does it make a difference at the end of the day? The cream will rise. I understand Garry's want to limit now, but I find your assumption which seems to imply that only GSPs know what they are doing a slap to the face. Moreover ruins the systems before GSP where someone who had the box and connection could choose to host for players without requesting anything in return. Your almost saying you only know what you are doing if you charge to host.

[QUOTE=oXYnary;45011937]You're still making assumptions that private server owners aren't as Smart as a gsp. In what sense? More, does it make a difference at the end of the day? The cream will rise. I understand Garry's want to limit now, but I find your assumption which seems to imply that only GSPs know what they are doing a slap to the face. Moreover ruins the systems before GSP where someone who had the box and connection could choose to host for players without requesting anything in return. Your almost saying you only know what you are doing if you charge to host.[/QUOTE] I'm saying the actual posts of the "GSP owners" I'm referring to were dumber than boxes of rocks. Them and the cheapskate fucks who didn't want to pay for a host and thought that garry would just hand out server access like penny candy. The ones I'm referring to that actually had rack space knew nothing about what they were doing and were clearly just reciting things that they'd seen others say as if it was a mantra, not functional sentences with syntax and meaning. These are would-be GSPs, but from their posts, it was basically their first day if they were legit at all. Not [B]every[/B] person who asked for a server key falls under these comments, oXYnary. Considering you somehow read VMs in what I posted when I never mentioned anything of the sort, perhaps you could try reading what I post more carefully. [quote]Some of <the thousand> have been morons wanting to run a server on an i7 they have[/quote] [quote]I'm saying they were people who wanted to host a server out of their house instead of paying a GSP. Or they were rushing to get in on the gold rush on Rust server hosting and hadn't even finished page 4 of "Game Hosting for Dummies" before posting, that's a possibility for at least a few cases.[/quote] [quote]they either flat-out admitted it or were too dumb to be a real GSP.[/quote] Two concepts: 1) Some of the people requesting access to server files or the Rust server SteamCMD password were individual players that wanted to host a single server for their own personal use on their home connection without paying for hosting with an approved GSP. 2) In at least some cases, they were not trying to host out of a residential connection and actually had some form of machine in a colo facility, but were complete newbies at game hosting and did not have any idea what they were doing, period. Arguably, these were people in 1) pretending to be legit GSP candidates in order to obtain a key. If what you get out of this is, "GSP owners are smarter than people who want to host from home," I don't know what else to add.

The assumption that GSPs are the highest tier is a bit wayward, too. We host GSPs and I want to scream constantly about some of them; just basic stuff gets them DDoSed constantly. Nothing wrong with VMs or boxes at home, IMHO. My two cents - if it works and it's a stable platform, good. If it doesn't work in an alpha phase, that's good, too - more data in either direction. Once again, I didn't mean to affront anyone. Sorry about that. Rushing a bit. From our perspective, we might as well utilize some of our infrastructure for something we enjoy and help in our own little way develop a game that I'm sure is gonna be a hit, if nothing more than watching Garry's Mod grow up over the years. Not being cheap here, far from it - we have the bits and bolts, and wanted to be on the list, too. I find it a bit unusual that there's no info on it - but it IS an alpha and I understand completely.

There's a difference between a legitimate GSP that has banks and banks of servers and a swath of network and infrastructure analysts supporting everything and some guy who can manage to figure out how to RDP into a computer that just has ethernet and power plugged in sitting in the corner and says "that's my server." There's obviously some overlap there, people who [B]can[/B] competently configure and manage a server that is viable for many people to play on but too many people believe it is the case when it's not. I don't think Elix ever said that they weren't as [B]smart[/B]. Perhaps just less educated on the subject matter.

It can be challenging, granted :) [editline]5th June 2014[/editline] Now to find some one's head to hit with a rock...haven't had too much time to actually play today, lol

The following is entirely my own opinion and is not approved by anyone at FP: I don't think garry wanted to share the server files with [I]anyone[/I] this early, but his hand was forced when Rust sold hundreds of thousands of copies (hitting 1.6 million in about six months) and the official, dev-run servers were simply insufficient for the load and having the devs babysit 1,500+ more servers would've brought development to a halt. garry has explicitly said that he isn't handing out server file access to a wider spread because they want to be able to push out updates as often as they need to, and a thousand GSPs all being fed two or three patches in a day would generate a lot of blowback. [i]I can't find the exact post because he posted it somewhere on Reddit like five months ago, but basically the server isn't ready for widespread dissemination.[/i] Never mind, found it. [QUOTE]We're only really giving access to a few GSPs right now because we don't want to inconvenience too many people with constant updates, breaking etc.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.reddit.com/r/playrust/comments/1u5kqp/i_am_garry_newman_ama/ceeq7x4"](source)[/URL] garry doesn't have any info up about how to become a GSP because he's not accepting new ones, and if there was an official mailbox or form or something, it'd have been completely unmanageable in a week from the spam of entries from everyone wanting to get in on Rust. I don't even know how many people just emailed garry (or random devs at Facepunch) directly to request server access and never even made it onto the forums. [B]I have personally received PMs[/B] from people who thought I worked for Facepunch, and they barely had any idea what Rust was, just that it was in high demand and so they saw $$$$. lynchpin, you've been much more intelligent and courteous than some of the people we've had asking for the server files. I appreciate that, and I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to be hostile with you.

[QUOTE=lynchpin;45009915]I am employed by a hosting company; my boss and I bought Rust and are curious on how we would go about getting on the official server list; and the files. We have high-end servers and plenty of infrastructure / bandwidth to host...more than ample, from what we've researched. Unfortunately... we find absolutely no information on how to go about hosting servers (beta keys, etc.). Is there a method or person to email concerning this? Only option we see available is to post here and ask. Please PM me for corporate email & information.[/QUOTE] not saying i don't believe you, but i feel like if you DID work for a hosting company, you would know what is required for you to obtain games/server access, because that is, quite literally, your job description.

Very funny. There's no information posted anywhere other than an obscure thread. [editline]10th June 2014[/editline] Oh, and also...just because you work for hosting company doesn't specify GAME hosting.