Hello Everyone!
I would first like to thank all of our players on our server, for it has been growing successfully! For those of you that don't know, I would like to tell you about our unique server in Rust. Our server is set up in two groups, heroes and bandits. The heroes try to eliminate bandits and vice versa. However, heroes usually win (by counterattacking), but bandits can win as well. If you would like to join us, we would be more than happy to help you out and if you have any questions let me know. We hope you give the server a try! The server info is listed below.
SERVER INFO:
IP: 23.105.128.218:28115
NAME: The KRusty Krab |PVP| No Sleepers
NOTE: The Server is listed under the [B]Modded[/B] Tab
Again, let me know if you have any questions! [B]Experienced[/B] and [B]inexperienced[/B] players are welcome!
~will42398
Love this server! Almost everyone has been REALLY helpful and kind. It's a very friendly server that welcomes players new and old of all skill level! There's the odd bad seed now and again but when it happens the players scare them off. Definitely a recommended server!
I enjoy going around and killing bandits on every attack they make. For heroes, run for Goodbury! We can battle bandits together!
great server, but there's a few players who I believe aren't playing fairly.
I had a player "TheManInUrPC", I believe, who we got into a firefight. He may or may not have legitimately killed me, I understood.
I camp respawned, got a back up weapon, and he tells me "I got trapped in your gate, let me out", and I hadn't caught his name before so I wasn't sure
I led him through the house to the middle part, all locked behind ~10 metal doors, and aimed at the head, and shot all 24 rounds from the M4 into his head/upper torso.
He then turns around, and shoots me in the face killing me with 1 or 2 bullets.
Then, he blows up every single door with ~2 C4 each.
With one of his friends, WHO WASN'T LED TO THE ROOM NOR SEEN
[QUOTE=JazZ5109AI;43217336]great server, but there's a few players who I believe aren't playing fairly.
I had a player "TheManInUrPC", I believe, who we got into a firefight. He may or may not have legitimately killed me, I understood.
I camp respawned, got a back up weapon, and he tells me "I got trapped in your gate, let me out", and I hadn't caught his name before so I wasn't sure
I led him through the house to the middle part, all locked behind ~10 metal doors, and aimed at the head, and shot all 24 rounds from the M4 into his head/upper torso.
He then turns around, and shoots me in the face killing me with 1 or 2 bullets.
Then, he blows up every single door with ~2 C4 each.
With one of his friends, WHO WASN'T LED TO THE ROOM NOR SEEN[/QUOTE]
First of all, you left your gate open for me to get trapped in. When you closed it, I was in the back of the house. Second, you never shot me in the head ONCE. I also was carrying at least 10 medkits with 5 large ones to boot. The only thing that was not legitimate during that whole event was the admin coming over and helping me escape from your house with some spawned in C4. Otherwise, you simply got the bad end dude.
[QUOTE=JazZ5109AI;43217336]great server, but there's a few players who I believe aren't playing fairly.
I had a player "TheManInUrPC", I believe, who we got into a firefight. He may or may not have legitimately killed me, I understood.
I camp respawned, got a back up weapon, and he tells me "I got trapped in your gate, let me out", and I hadn't caught his name before so I wasn't sure
I led him through the house to the middle part, all locked behind ~10 metal doors, and aimed at the head, and shot all 24 rounds from the M4 into his head/upper torso.
He then turns around, and shoots me in the face killing me with 1 or 2 bullets.
Then, he blows up every single door with ~2 C4 each.
With one of his friends, WHO WASN'T LED TO THE ROOM NOR SEEN[/QUOTE]
Hey Jaz,
I am sorry for this incident. I can assure you, he did not have any powers or hacks. I spent some time going through the server logs, and some lag spikes occurred throughout the day. Personally, I am sorry for what happened, and if it happens again, let me know! If you have any other suggestions, reply and I will contact you ASAP. Have a good day Jaz!
~will42398
wait, the admin spawns c4 for friends in traps (and admits that shit online)? you don't make the guy's friends rescue him?
[QUOTE=franzand;43223948]wait, the admin spawns c4 for friends in traps (and admits that shit online)? you don't make the guy's friends rescue him?[/QUOTE]
Well, when everyone comes out and says they don't have enough C4 to blow 10 metal doors...then the admin probably should come get my ass out of there with some spawn codes. The admin hasn't abused players in any manner, so I would not be concerned over this incident. You can go ask players on the server if you want. There is usually 50 online regulars and they will defend it.
[QUOTE=TheManInUrPC;43219453]First of all, you left your gate open for me to get trapped in. When you closed it, I was in the back of the house. Second, you never shot me in the head ONCE. I also was carrying at least 10 medkits with 5 large ones to boot. The only thing that was not legitimate during that whole event was the admin coming over and helping me escape from your house with some spawned in C4. Otherwise, you simply got the bad end dude.[/QUOTE]
My friend was in the same room and confirms that he saw me shoot you directly in the head at least 8 times.
Plus what kind of bullshit is that? You need an admin to come save you because YOU walked into a trap?
How the fuck is that anywhere near fair to me or my friends? YOU get saved because your retarded, but WE get fucked because I got you to walk into the middle room of my house?
[QUOTE=JazZ5109AI;43226766]My friend was in the same room and confirms that he saw me shoot you directly in the head at least 8 times.
Plus what kind of bullshit is that? You need an admin to come save you because YOU walked into a trap?
How the fuck is that anywhere near fair to me or my friends? YOU get saved because your retarded, but WE get fucked because I got you to walk into the middle room of my house?[/QUOTE]
No, you got fucked for your stupidity on being a bandit. YOU got fucked because of a lag spike. Also, when I see a headshot from a second-person point of view, you DON'T see a headshot. A headshot is indicated by a FACEPUNCH sound. YOU missed those headshots and YOU died. Being trapped might be my fault, but I was NOT going to sit in a house for fuck knows how long for someone to scrounge up enough C4 to destroy 10 metal doors. Everything that transpired was fair. YOU fucked up, and YOU got the end result. Sorry if the game just never goes your way, but that's life. Get used to it. Come back with some actual proof next time before you talk shit. Will investigated the entire thing carefully and found NO evidence of cheating during that event. Pick your arguments, sir, because this is one that you can't win.
Edit: I'm going to start running FRAPS on every session now, because it is obvious that some people can't accept the truth until it hits them in the face.
Oh yea, and the majority of players I meet on the server have been friendly. How am I supposed to expect such a cheap way of trapping? No one ever reported you for being a bandit while I was present on the server. No, you guys died, because of your mistake in judgement of the situation.
well, the person (f21michael) that was locked into a room by another user sat there for 2 hours until suiciding. that was one door. no buddies to get him out. does he get admin help? he didn't last night.
If you walk into a trap that's your own fault. Even after killing who ever was there your still trapped, and you ether wait for your friends or team to break you or suicide like (f21michael). Not crying to the admin to spawn in C4 to break you out. When as you stated, "when everyone comes out and says they don't have enough C4 to blow 10 metal doors..." that admin should not break you out because of your own stupidity, and you should suicide because that's the game. Not spawning in items to make you more powerful aka. cheating.
Hey there, I'm Jazz's friend in question.
Here's what I recollect. I wasn't recording this, so I don't have proof, just putting that out.
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You were near/in our house (didn't see you), asking for a friend and repeatedly asking if anyone was home. Jazz lead you upstairs while locking all the doors behind, and you two came into the room I was in.
Jazz shot almost a full clip of M4 shots straight into your head/upper body, I saw the whole thing head-on. You looked up and killed Jazz in a quick spray. I grabbed Jazz's stuff and d/c'd, and when we came back to our house every single door and storage container was C4'd.
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Whether this was lag, and if lag can negate an entire M4 clip, I don't know, and frankly it doesn't matter. My issue is with the response to this issue.
I believe more or less what ACEGAMER said, if you're trapped, you're trapped. If you walked into a trap because "How am I supposed to expect such a cheap way of trapping?", you walked into a trap, sorry. That's the game.
To add insult to injury, you destroyed all our chests and doors with the [i]spawned[/i] C4, effectively destroying everything we had left.
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Anyways, what's done is done, and the admin doing a "careful investigation" doesn't change my viewpoint. It's a shame, I guess we'll be server hunting after the patch.
We won't be back.
There was zero lag on the server. I heard a ton of shots, which are streamed through the server. There was no lag spike, you made that up. It's simple, the admins here are shitheads and I know I'm not going to play on their server. Will seems decent but there were a couple other complaints of man teleporting into people's base.
Another thing about the "instant med kit" bullshit you keep insisting is real, the med kits aren't instant. Ten minutes before you abused I fell off a cliff and used one. You're full of shit.
Alright guys, lets all cool this argument. I am so sorry for what has happened, and if I get any other reports of the same player doing this then I will take action. I promise you guys!
[B][U]I would now like to make an official announcement.[/U][/B] Due to the many structures on the server and the new patch being released, we will have a server wipe on [B][I][U]Monday, December 23rd[/U][/I][/B]. We have had some other comments and suggestions that have helped me improve the server, and close structures and cities should not be built due to mass raidings! Please let me know of any questions and comments you have, and I will respond ASAP. Have a wonderful day!
~will42398
PS: Sorry for the many restarts! Many people are getting Steam Auth Failures. It will be fixed soon!
[QUOTE=ACEGAMER9634;43228564]If you walk into a trap that's your own fault. Even after killing who ever was there your still trapped, and you ether wait for your friends or team to break you or suicide like (f21michael). Not crying to the admin to spawn in C4 to break you out. When as you stated, "when everyone comes out and says they don't have enough C4 to blow 10 metal doors..." that admin should not break you out because of your own stupidity, and you should suicide because that's the game. Not spawning in items to make you more powerful aka. cheating.[/QUOTE]
Look, if Will said he could help me get out. Then I'll take advantage of it. I didn't need to cry or bitch for it. You all can claim what you like, but it will not help your case. You all lost in a fair fight and you can't change that.
[editline]18th December 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Jacksaunt;43228992]There was zero lag on the server. I heard a ton of shots, which are streamed through the server. There was no lag spike, you made that up. It's simple, the admins here are shitheads and I know I'm not going to play on their server. Will seems decent but there were a couple other complaints of man teleporting into people's base.
Another thing about the "instant med kit" bullshit you keep insisting is real, the med kits aren't instant. Ten minutes before you abused I fell off a cliff and used one. You're full of shit.[/QUOTE]\
You were not around when this happened. You CANNOT be counted as a witness to defend.
[editline]18th December 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=jkskiier;43228873]Hey there, I'm Jazz's friend in question.
Here's what I recollect. I wasn't recording this, so I don't have proof, just putting that out.
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You were near/in our house (didn't see you), asking for a friend and repeatedly asking if anyone was home. Jazz lead you upstairs while locking all the doors behind, and you two came into the room I was in.
Jazz shot almost a full clip of M4 shots straight into your head/upper body, I saw the whole thing head-on. You looked up and killed Jazz in a quick spray. I grabbed Jazz's stuff and d/c'd, and when we came back to our house every single door and storage container was C4'd.
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Whether this was lag, and if lag can negate an entire M4 clip, I don't know, and frankly it doesn't matter. My issue is with the response to this issue.
I believe more or less what ACEGAMER said, if you're trapped, you're trapped. If you walked into a trap because "How am I supposed to expect such a cheap way of trapping?", you walked into a trap, sorry. That's the game.
To add insult to injury, you destroyed all our chests and doors with the [i]spawned[/i] C4, effectively destroying everything we had left.
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Anyways, what's done is done, and the admin doing a "careful investigation" doesn't change my viewpoint. It's a shame, I guess we'll be server hunting after the patch.
We won't be back.[/QUOTE]
Your recollection further proves there was severe lag. I started shooting by the first shot. He died and that was it. Game over. Have fun looking for a new server. Good day.
Look guys, this is just one incident. If it happens again, I will take immediate action. There were high pings throughout the day, and this situation could not be confirmed with sufficient evidence. Thanks!
[B][U]NOTE TO ALL PLAYERS:[/U][/B] I have announced the wipe on [B]Monday, December 23rd[/B]. However, I might have to force wipe the server when the new patch comes out.
~will42398
Yes, if in such a situation that the admin offers to break you out of the fort I see most people taking that offer. But regardless destroying one wall to get out should have been enough. Not destroying over 10 hard earned metal doors and all of their stuff in the process. But with the new patch coming out and the server wipe none of this even matters now does it. So I wish you the best after the update and, hope that you learn one day that if you are truly a fair person/gamer you will not be such the fucking piece of shit you truly are when your stupidity puts you in that situation again to other people. Good day.
[QUOTE=ACEGAMER9634;43230220]Yes, if in such a situation that the admin offers to break you out of the fort I see most people taking that offer. But regardless destroying one wall to get out should have been enough. Not destroying over 10 hard earned metal doors and all of their stuff in the process. But with the new patch coming out and the server wipe none of this even matters now does it. So I wish you the best after the update and, hope that you learn one day that if you are truly a fair person/gamer you will not be such the fucking piece of shit you truly are when your stupidity puts you in that situation again to other people. Good day.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for your kind and civilized words. They clearly show your intelligence in an argument. I wish the best to you and I hope that you guys can take the fact of a loss in a small video game next time. Best wishes and Merry Christmas!
, TheManInUrPC a.k.a. "the fucking piece of shit I truly am"
P.S. Yes, you are a person of kind words.
[QUOTE=will42398;43230149]Look guys, this is just one incident. If it happens again, I will take immediate action. There were high pings throughout the day, and this situation could not be confirmed with sufficient evidence. Thanks!
[B][U]NOTE TO ALL PLAYERS:[/U][/B] I have announced the wipe on [B]Monday, December 23rd[/B]. However, I might have to force wipe the server when the new patch comes out.
~will42398[/QUOTE]
Strong suggestion? No admin intervention. At all.
I think PC's entitled behavior is a direct consequence of your actions. This is actually a severe problem with any state-backed institution of enforcement: [url]http://www.abuseofpower.info/Culture_Brotherhood.htm[/url].
No spawning loot. No spawning c4s. No spawning drops. No "testing" metal structures. Playing the game with an account other than your admin account. Playing "fair."
And you know what I'm talking about with regard to PC. I saw him abusing the shit out of your other players. Regardless of whether or not he's a "hero," he's treating your other users like shit and running a witch hunt comparable to [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crucible]The Crucible and the Salem witch trials on which it was based.[/url] He's a pretty conniving Abigail, if you know what I mean.
I'll stick through the patch, but if this continues I'm going to be extremely, extremely disappointed. I'm pretty sure any group of competent people could handle this task without the admin intervention.
[editline]19th December 2013[/editline]
(and also, just saying, if the chats are any indicator, "Hero Town" had *many* more than the 30 c4 required to open those doors - just sayin')
[QUOTE=franzand;43230478]Strong suggestion? No admin intervention. At all.
I think PC's entitled behavior is a direct consequence of your actions. This is actually a severe problem with any state-backed institution of enforcement: [url]http://www.abuseofpower.info/Culture_Brotherhood.htm[/url].
No spawning loot. No spawning c4s. No spawning drops. No "testing" metal structures. Playing the game with an account other than your admin account. Playing "fair."
And you know what I'm talking about with regard to PC. I saw him abusing the shit out of your other players. Regardless of whether or not he's a "hero," he's treating your other users like shit and running a witch hunt comparable to [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crucible]The Crucible and the Salem witch trials on which it was based.[/url] He's a pretty conniving Abigail, if you know what I mean.
I'll stick through the patch, but if this continues I'm going to be extremely, extremely disappointed. I'm pretty sure any group of competent people could handle this task without the admin intervention.[/QUOTE]
BANDIT'S MUST DIE! BURN THE WITCH!
It is ironic though, because I am a Congregationalist. I could take offense to that, but I won't.
On the fact of abuse ,though, I have gained good reputation from some players. They've become friends of mine too. KiwiPheonix is one. Will and I have have built some "metal structures", but we don't do much other than have fun with being creative with it. He also had the server wipe planned when we built it, so no harm done right? franzand, I would not worry about this incident. The only thing that happened here was a result of immaturity from all sides. We all like to enjoy the game in our own way.
[QUOTE=franzand;43230478]Strong suggestion? No admin intervention. At all.
I think PC's entitled behavior is a direct consequence of your actions. This is actually a severe problem with any state-backed institution of enforcement: [url]http://www.abuseofpower.info/Culture_Brotherhood.htm[/url].
No spawning loot. No spawning c4s. No spawning drops. No "testing" metal structures. Playing the game with an account other than your admin account. Playing "fair."
And you know what I'm talking about with regard to PC. I saw him abusing the shit out of your other players. Regardless of whether or not he's a "hero," he's treating your other users like shit and running a witch hunt comparable to [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crucible]The Crucible and the Salem witch trials on which it was based.[/url] He's a pretty conniving Abigail, if you know what I mean.
I'll stick through the patch, but if this continues I'm going to be extremely, extremely disappointed. I'm pretty sure any group of competent people could handle this task without the admin intervention.
[editline]19th December 2013[/editline]
(and also, just saying, if the chats are any indicator, "Hero Town" had *many* more than the 30 c4 required to open those doors - just sayin')[/QUOTE]
Franzand, as the admin of this server, I try to make everyone on the server happy and satisfied. I did not have to intervene, but in this scenario I thought it was appropriate. Please be reasonable as this is just one incident, and there haven't been any others. I cannot control the actions of other players.[B] I was just trying to help.[/B] Sorry for making you unhappy.
[QUOTE=TheManInUrPC;43230001] You all lost in a fair fight and you can't change that.[/QUOTE]
And did I [i]really[/i] just hear you claim that a "fair fight" includes the admin-spawned C4 to get you out of a fair trap? Oh, kiddo. Do you know how much damage you're doing to your friend's server right now?
[QUOTE=franzand;43230625]And did I [i]really[/i] just hear you claim that a "fair fight" includes the admin-spawned C4 to get you out of a fair trap? Oh, kiddo. Do you know how much damage you're doing to your friend's server right now?[/QUOTE]
It was a "fair fight" as I said. This doesn't pertain to the fight. Being short on C4 might be my fault. I might have gotten myself in a bad situation, but I was offered an escape AFTER the fight. You don't seem to understand what transpired during this event.
[QUOTE=TheManInUrPC;43230648]It was a "fair fight" as I said. This doesn't pertain to the fight. Being short on C4 might be my fault. I might have gotten myself in a bad situation, but I was offered an escape AFTER the fight. You don't seem to understand what transpired during this event.[/QUOTE]
I understand perfectly, even if your statements pertain to lag.
You were forced to a stalemate: you killed him, but he trapped you unless you had a friend with 3x10 C4.
I assume with your attitude, you're short on friends. But that's a shitty ad hominem attack, isn't it?
So I'll stick with "not fair." My suggestion stands.
If it helps with regard to "the fight," had you fairly responded, the person who came back in to see his doors nuked might well have seen the back of your head instead. Think about it. Learn to play meta instead of playing with your testicles.
[editline]19th December 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=will42398;43230621]Please be reasonable as this is just one incident, and there haven't been any others. I cannot control the actions of other players.[B] I was just trying to help.[/B] Sorry for making you unhappy.[/QUOTE]
I'm not leaving the server. I'm trying my hardest to remain reasonable while being extremely explicit with regard to my concerns. Every new admin seems to make this mistake at least once.
While you can't control the actions of other players, you can work to not enable their entitlement through unfair rewards. I sincerely doubt this is one incident (I count at least 3 supply drops, 1 PC bail-out, one claim that PC finds bases "because God tells him," and structures for friends that are resilient to attack). We won't even get to what was actually *inside* of Goodbury and how a noob-family comes up with 200+ metal ceilings in a box. Or why someone was claiming that they lost *120* c4s but can't build a structure with more than one door.
I honestly believe you intended the best for your server, but I think you've picked some allies that are making your life extremely difficult. I'd again [i]strongly recommend[/i] if you're trying to help from an admin perspective, stay out of it. If you're trying to help as a player, do it legit.
But new admins do this. I expect in your next iteration, you'll know better. Whether or not you [i]do[/i] better is up to you.
[editline]19th December 2013[/editline]
(also, since you're replying, I'd appreciate a reset -- having troubles with the Steam auth)
People put a lot of work into this game and its already hard enough when any time you log on you can find your base raided, which is fair. Whats not fair is admins spawning stuff for players. and favor there friends and spawn things for them when there playing against players with no such help.
[QUOTE=TheManInUrPC;43230620]BANDIT'S MUST DIE! BURN THE WITCH!
It is ironic though, because I am a Congregationalist. I could take offense to that, but I won't.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congregational_church[/url]
Protestant witch hunt. Go ahead and take offense -- pretty sure it's contextually appropriate.
[editline]19th December 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=DrBootyswet;43230915]People put a lot of work into this game and its already hard enough when any time you log on you can find your base raided, which is fair. Whats not fair is admins spawning stuff for players. and favor there friends and spawn things for them when there playing against players with no such help.[/QUOTE]
That's what I'm talking about. But hey, folks make mistakes all the time. Let's give Will the benefit of the doubt and see what happens post-wipe.
[QUOTE=franzand;43230705]I understand perfectly, even if your statements pertain to lag.
You were forced to a stalemate: you killed him, but he trapped you unless you had a friend with 3x10 C4.
I assume with your attitude, you're short on friends. But that's a shitty ad hominem attack, isn't it?
So I'll stick with "not fair." My suggestion stands.
[/QUOTE]
franzand, I don't think any good reasons will have any appeal to your provincial personality. Your ad hominem attack is "shitty" too by the way. If I was short on friends, there would be no "Goodbury" full of players. Stick with "not fair". The admin has declared what it is. This argument is now pointless.
Edit: You claim they are like that now, though. So yea, I'll take offense, thank you.
The point of this game is to collect materials, build forts, make friends and enemies. Getting online the next day and finding your base raided or losing a fire fight is part of the game. An admin that intervenes in ways that normal players cannot is a pure sign of a irresponsible or inexperienced admin, and abusing that power does not make for a fun or fair game. I do strongly agree with franzand's that people make mistakes and that "you've picked some allies that are making your life extremely difficult." If you truly intend on helping admin perspective you should not deal with issues of people stuck in someone else's fort or wanting materials spawned in, but the issues of hacking, harassing, or other serious disputes. Other wise if you decide to intervene in a fight or rescue situation that you do it as a normal player not spawning in extra resources that other players spent hours collecting.
[QUOTE=TheManInUrPC;43230982]franzand, I don't think any good reasons will have any appeal to your provincial personality. Your ad hominem attack is "shitty" too by the way. If I was short on friends, there would be no "Goodbury" full of players. Stick with "not fair". The admin has declared what it is. This argument is now pointless.[/quote]
Ain't much of a Goodbury anymore, sugar-plum.
Admin declared it as a mistake that he's not going to continue committing. Largely as a part of folks pointing out that error. So no, not really pointless. Seemed to have met its goal, actually.
[quote]Edit: My evidence agaisnt your Wikipedia post is ME. Schools don't accept that as a source for research papers. Bring back a better one.[/QUOTE]
1) "against"
2) I advise my university students to look at the *bottom* of the Wiki page to view the citations and use those as primary references. I'd advise you to do the same, but for what it's worth, the primary reference on the Wiki pages is a play called "The Crucible". If you're interested in historical and scholarly representations, [url]http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=salem+witch+hunt&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C48&as_sdtp=[/url]click this here link. But really, I was mocking you. I'll leave how and why as an exercise to the student. Also, I expect a university student to be able to do this from a Wiki link on their own. So you know, do the work.
But if you're interested, [url]http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v438/n7070/full/438900a.html[/url] is a good reference with regards to Wikis. You'll have to make your own way through the paywall.
If you're really interested in The Crucible, [url]http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=history+the+crucible&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C48[/url]try this.
Oh, did I just school you about primary sources? And what value Wiki actually has? Please, noob. You don't know shit.
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