Hi.
Tired of constant rubberbandings, rollbacks and hours and hours of gameplay wasted (just like everybody else), I grew even more tired of this game and decided to leave it on the shelf for a while.
Then I had a brilliant idea of using a helping hack and a injected map to travel faster and find resources easily, and to see what hacking is really about (never hacked before.... uhh maybe on GTA SA..)
first deception: they're mostly just viruses.
second deception: it doesn't show up natural resources, only people's resources, which I'm not interested in stealing.
third deception: it ain't too fast =(
fourth deception: it's lousy, inprecise and lags.
but it had a light hack so it was a nice advantage at night. coolio. Got loads of resources, built my stuff and the server rollbacked.
To shelf with it.
Today I tried to play again, hackless (as the game updated, the hack said it was incompatible) just to see a VAC ban. I'm sad and regret using a hack (that in the end was useless lol), but I'm pretty impressed that the VAC actually works. I've seen so many hackers in several VAC protected games that I thought it was mostly a scarecrow.
But I regret doing it, srsly =(
I know I can create a new steam account, buy the game again, spoof the machine, change the ip or blablabla.. but I wanted to retain my original steam name =\
Can I buy the game once again and get a ban lift? Not hacking again I swear :v:
If there's no other option available.. ok I'm cool with that. Use the money I paid to invest in the game, when it's done it'll be fun like hell. I did crap and now I'm in for life. When the game matures, I'll be mature enough to play it cool. And with a different account.
but I reeeeeeeeeaally want to give it another shot... later... maybe next year... or so, with my normal account.
P.S.: I play on PVE =) but it still was a unfair advantage over other gamers, I know.
P.P.S.: Kids, don't cheat. It ain't worth it.
[B]tl;dr:
I got caught with the hand in cookie jar. I'm crying and my hand is stuck. VAC slapped me, I've learnt the lesson and it ain't worth doing it.
Do I have any option whatsoever to get a ban lift (by buying again or something) or the only way out is to make a new account, buy and play it again?[/B]
I guess props to you for owning up to it, but no you can't be unbanned.
VAC always works, but the hackers that don't get banned are from the pay sites. Generally when someone is paying you to build a hack, much more work goes into it. Constant updates..etc.
Go out any try to manage your life with cheats.
Then see what you will get.
But really, cheating is bad.
Perhaps you will get banned from here anyway.
But I just wanted to let you know that it's wrong to cheat.
Feel free to donate further 20 bucks to Garry.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=GTMoraes;44060647]
Do I have any option whatsoever to get a ban lift (by buying again or something) or the only way out is to make a new account, buy and play it again?[/B][/QUOTE]
I didn't read any of your thread except for this but:
1. 99.999999% chance that you will NOT get unbanned by Valve
2. Buy it and play on another account but don't cheat this time.
[QUOTE=Wyvyrias;44060690]Go out any try to manage your life with cheats.
Then see what you will get.
But really, cheating is bad.
Perhaps you will get banned from here anyway.
But I just wanted to let you know that it's wrong to cheat.
Feel free to donate further 20 bucks to Garry.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Money, power, women and enemies lol
No, really. I didn't mind being raided. It was fun actually when I thought about it after the raid (not during. It sucks during), but I was berserk for losing my stuff due to a server problem. Wanted the easy way and after all it ain't that easy.
Again, I don't really mind if I'm banned from here too, just trying whatever to keep on one account. I'll end up buying this game again on another account anyway
[QUOTE=kraze;44060689]I guess props to you for owning up to it, but no you can't be unbanned.
VAC always works, but the hackers that don't get banned are from the pay sites. Generally when someone is paying you to build a hack, much more work goes into it. Constant updates..etc.[/QUOTE]
I've read what you wrote before the edit lol. Nope, ain't giving money for that. Played too many F2P games to hate payhacks way too much.
[QUOTE=Sievers808;44060709]I didn't read any of your thread except for this but:
1. 99.999999% chance that you will NOT get unbanned by Valve
2. Buy it and play on another account but don't cheat this time.[/QUOTE]
Meh, I guess that's the way it's going to be, the losers path of having two steam accounts "for some reason".
But I'll wait 'till someone comes over with a decisive answer.
Or a ban here, I'll get the memo.
[QUOTE=GTMoraes;44060647]When the game matures, I'll be mature enough to play it cool. And with a different account.
[/QUOTE]
Well it's hard to hate you like the others since you fessed up so well. But yeah this line is basically how it is, you now have to reap what you sow. In this case you just have to buy it again on a different steam account. Sure many player servers wont let you play since you will have a new account with only one game, but hey you can play on the officials again.
It good to realize that now your account has a stain that could cause issues for even other games when people see you have a VAC ban. In the end, to see at night was not worth itl.
[QUOTE=kraze;44060689]I guess props to you for owning up to it, but no you can't be unbanned.
VAC always works, but the hackers that don't get banned are from the pay sites. Generally when someone is paying you to build a hack, much more work goes into it. Constant updates..etc.[/QUOTE]
Actually the "pay" hackers get banned almost as often as the "free" hackers do, because the coder of said hack only updates once its detected or theres a gamepatch. the only people who dont get banned are the ones who make their own, and update it before every single launch. which i would say about .1% of the HACKERS in rust do. not players, hackers.
You deserve it
[QUOTE=RallyCar;44060781]Well it's hard to hate you like the others since you fessed up so well. But yeah this line is basically how it is, you now have to reap what you sow. In this case you just have to buy it again on a different steam account. Sure many player servers wont let you play since you will have a new account with only one game, but hey you can play on the officials again.
It good to realize that now your account has a stain that could cause issues for even other games when people see you have a VAC ban. In the end, to see at night was not worth itl.[/QUOTE]
Oh crap, I thought the ban would be on the GAME, not WORLDWIDE lol
Now I'm screwed lol
I'll test some games here to see what happens
[QUOTE=Exre;44060870]You deserve it[/QUOTE]
Yeah.. guess I do. Wallet time now =\
I just don't get it I guess, so your frustrated by this, that and the other but the hacks don't change the situation. The second you aren't using them the situation remains and anything accomplished while you have them must feel pretty hollow. It's like being on a sever by yourself and having limitless resources, I'd feel like it was just instantly boring.
[QUOTE=GTMoraes;44060899]Oh crap, I thought the ban would be on the GAME, not WORLDWIDE lol
Now I'm screwed lol
I'll test some games here to see what happens
Yeah.. guess I do. Wallet time now =\[/QUOTE]
The ban is just for the game.
Only Valve Source Games got another rule to handle that.
[QUOTE=GTMoraes;44060899]Oh crap, I thought the ban would be on the GAME, not WORLDWIDE lol
Now I'm screwed lol
I'll test some games here to see what happens
Yeah.. guess I do. Wallet time now =\[/QUOTE]
Sorry if that was not clear. Your not banned from other games, but if you play other games on private servers, some people auto-kick people with VAC bans. There is even ways to script it to happen automatically.
[QUOTE=Ebrim;44060938]I just don't get it I guess, so your frustrated by this, that and the other but the hacks don't change the situation. The second you aren't using them the situation remains and anything accomplished while you have them must feel pretty hollow. It's like being on a sever by yourself and having limitless resources, I'd feel like it was just instantly boring.[/QUOTE]
I wanted to grab my resources back (the ones I've lost in a rollback). Mostly wood (I made several huge spike walls rounding my house, minutes before a rollback), not to gather even more resources.
Can't prove that I wasn't going to abuse it, but I'm telling you.
[QUOTE=Wyvyrias;44060939]The ban is just for the game.
Only Valve Source Games got another rule to handle that.[/QUOTE]
I tried CS:GO and it worked here, on a "official" server, I think.
But on the site that checks accounts, it lists me on the ban-van
[url]http://www.vacbanned.com/engine/check[/url]
Valve says on the FAQ that correctly given bans are forever. Facepunch devs cannot do anything for me.
I'll just drown in sorrow and buy games from now on, on a new account. Sucks for me, don't follow that path
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Weird. I played CS:GO, CS:Source, HL2: Deathmatch and L4D2 without a hassle, even with this VAC ban stain on my account.
Is there a delay before the bans are enforced? What are the odds that if I buy a game in the future on this account and get insta-ban from it?
[QUOTE=Wyvyrias;44060690]Go out any try to manage your life with cheats.
Then see what you will get.
But really, cheating is bad.
Perhaps you will get banned from here anyway.
But I just wanted to let you know that it's wrong to cheat.
Feel free to donate further 20 bucks to Garry.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Oh jesus. Stop getting bitching and moaning. It's a game for fucks sake, not a goddamned lifestyle. Stop taking a game so seriously. He wasn't doing anything harmful to anyone else- and plus the dude admitted he screwed up, and yet here you are echoing everything he said in the original post. Good job, buck. You really showed him.
[QUOTE=ianwrecked;44061842]Oh jesus. Stop getting bitching and moaning. It's a game for fucks sake, not a goddamned lifestyle. Stop taking a game so seriously. He wasn't doing anything harmful to anyone else- and plus the dude admitted he screwed up, and yet here you are echoing everything he said in the original post. Good job, buck. You really showed him.[/QUOTE]
You really don't know if he did anything harmful.... It's not about the game, it's about the character of somebody who cheats in a game. I mean it's only a game not a goddamned lifestyle why would somebody cheat. I mean why would you take a game so seriously that you would do a wild search on the internet and put your computer at risk just to get some virtual wood?
If you got banned by cheatpunch for whatever reason if you don't want to spend $20 to buy another copy of the game under a different steam account just contact valve.
Start a ticket with their support team, say that you don't like the game or it's not running well for you and they will refund your money.
[url]https://support.steampowered.com/newticket.php[/url]
All you need to do is make a new steam account and buy the game again with the money you were refunded.
This works as long as the game is in "Alpha" or "Beta" and hasn't been released.
:)
(User was permabanned for this post ("brilliant idea" - garry))
Also like DrFreenote and lolosaid, there is always getting a charge back from your credit card
Perma bans don't always work, eh?
Any chance server files will be released? I know it says when the game is released, but seeing as you spend more time in the forums than doing actual work, it's hard to tell when that is.
Trolololol, hahaha!
Love you all :)
[QUOTE=GTMoraes;44060647]Hi.
Tired of constant rubberbandings, rollbacks and hours and hours of gameplay wasted (just like everybody else), I grew even more tired of this game and decided to leave it on the shelf for a while.
Then I had a brilliant idea of using a helping hack and a injected map to travel faster and find resources easily, and to see what hacking is really about (never hacked before.... uhh maybe on GTA SA..)[/QUOTE]
You may not have noticed this but there's a giant warning every time you play in the lower left of the screen that says YOU WILL GET VAC BANNED. (read that in a loud voice)
So...yeah. No. Create new account, buy Rust again. That's the only way.
Also, everyone and their grandma knows the hack you were using has been detected already.
Good on you though for blaming your cheating on lag and rollbacks. Lol.
[QUOTE=IGotWorms;44062970]You may not have noticed this but there's a giant warning every time you play in the lower left of the screen that says YOU WILL GET VAC BANNED. (read that in a loud voice)
So...yeah. No. Create new account, buy Rust again. That's the only way.
Also, everyone and their grandma knows the hack you were using has been detected already.
Good on you though for blaming your cheating on lag and rollbacks. Lol.
Yes, I'm sure support won't notice you've been VAC banned from the game and I'm like totally sure no one has ever had that brilliant idea before. Good luck.[/QUOTE]
Your as dumb as your avatar. However, I want to empower the end user-I'll give a quick explanation then I need to got to bed.
Cheatpunch is not a VAC ban, they will not see the ban.
This has been done for many pre-orders especially in the case of TF2 when people used to pre-order the games to get special items and get a refund right after receiving their items.
Thanks for the good luck though. I too wish you luck in your endeavors.
[QUOTE=ADM|N;44063037][b]Your as dumb[/b] as your avatar.[/quote]
Yeah...
[QUOTE=ADM|N;44063037]However, I want to empower the end user-I'll give a quick explanation then I need to got to bed.
Cheatpunch is not a VAC ban, they will not see the ban.
This has been done for many pre-orders especially in the case of TF2 when people used to pre-order the games to get special items and get a refund right after receiving their items.
Thanks for the good luck though. I too wish you luck in your endeavors.[/QUOTE]
OP wasn't banned by Cheatpunch. He was banned by VAC so your advice to him is both non-applicable and worthless. It's obvious you're just here to troll and spam and cry tears about VAC/Cheatpunch/EAC.
Oh and I like how you also advise people to do a chargeback on their Steam account too. Lol...great advice...if you don't mind your Steam account being suspended/banned.
hello, in first i m french sorry if my english not perfect ^^.
no, i don t agree with you, but all of you !
cheating it is evil, a life style (!? wtf), it a way to bored player to play this game, to play again with another fun, wtf why you can t do what you want with YOUR game in OUR server !!?, they are with everyone, that is the bad thing, then mr cheater there are lots of modserver where you can do what you want, no need cheat for that, but have to choose on the type of server where you want to play (pvp, pve,wtfserver (and there are many)), it is a different story if you want just farm people, but in the first thread I do not feel that...
as usual on to post compulsive yearning for justice (you might not impose your how to play a game other than your server or the official serveur), everyone their way to play and have fun. Having to buy the game again to be played not like the devs design want is just a joke, and a very bad !
find a another way like : whitelist (admin choose who can came in their server, maybe with notice in game for admin (a player want to come in your server chat,yes,no)), connection to the server by id (recoverable on community sites), to players who cheat, a red star on the top of the head like pk in mmo, for that we can see him far away, they become targets and go out server where they cheat naturally, BUT SHIT STOP BAN PEOPLE FOR JUST PLAY HOW THEY WANT TO PLAY ! indeed you game no perfect for that ! how many time i just be kicked by the facepunch kick or anothers for a clipping bug in a door or stairs, i jump in little rad 2nd floor for that for example...
i m not a cheater but when i will be bored of this game, why no make crazy things in my server... why i must be ban for that ? and why i must buy again this game for that, not a good way to take player money i think...
[QUOTE=exwnightmare;44060787]Actually the "pay" hackers get banned almost as often as the "free" hackers do, because the coder of said hack only updates once its detected or theres a gamepatch. the only people who dont get banned are the ones who make their own, and update it before every single launch. which i would say about .1% of the HACKERS in rust do. not players, hackers.[/QUOTE]
It's very likely, but in general paid hacks have more thought put into them. The developers find better ways to bypass the anti-cheats and think of ways they can remain undetected and proactively implement them.
[QUOTE=ianwrecked;44061842]Oh jesus. Stop getting bitching and moaning. It's a game for fucks sake, not a goddamned lifestyle. Stop taking a game so seriously. He wasn't doing anything harmful to anyone else- and plus the dude admitted he screwed up, and yet here you are echoing everything he said in the original post. Good job, buck. You really showed him.[/QUOTE]
They're kinda right, but this "go out and try to manage your life with cheats" was a bit over the edge lol.
Out there in real life I won't warp back in time and everything I had stored in my storage is lost, but the things I kept on my pocket isn't. Maybe in a dream.
I intended to "retrieve" my stuff back as fast as possible. I managed to do that, but in the end, the server rollbacked once again, and I got banned. I won't be harversting for resources so soon.
It was an server error and I should have just bitched about it, and moved on. But I screwed up thinking I'd get away hacking to retrieve the stuff back.
[QUOTE=RallyCar;44062473]You really don't know if he did anything harmful.... It's not about the game, it's about the character of somebody who cheats in a game. I mean it's only a game not a goddamned lifestyle why would somebody cheat. I mean why would you take a game so seriously that you would do a wild search on the internet and put your computer at risk just to get some virtual wood?[/QUOTE]
I didn't, really. I play on a PVE server. I just needed a map so I don't get lost, a resource finder, fast step and night vision. I've got a lousy map (could, and should've used the sun as a compass only) and night vision (that I could have used a high gamma instead). Not worth the ban. Even if I had everything I needed, it wouldn't be worth the ban lol.
[QUOTE=IGotWorms;44062970]You may not have noticed this but there's a giant warning every time you play in the lower left of the screen that says YOU WILL GET VAC BANNED. (read that in a loud voice)
So...yeah. No. Create new account, buy Rust again. That's the only way.
Also, everyone and their grandma knows the hack you were using has been detected already.
Good on you though for blaming your cheating on lag and rollbacks. Lol.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I noticed it.
If you don't believe me for cheating due to lag and rollbacks, that's fine. I can't see another use rather than harvest stuff faster and easier with the tools I used, but it's OK. You're free to imagine whatever, I'm not retrieving anything anyway
[QUOTE=nours77;44063519]hello, in first i m french sorry if my english not perfect ^^.
no, i don t agree with you, but all of you !
cheating it is evil, a life style (!? wtf), it a way to bored player to play this game, to play again with another fun, wtf why you can t do what you want with YOUR game in OUR server !!?, they are with everyone, that is the bad thing, then mr cheater there are lots of modserver where you can do what you want, no need cheat for that, but have to choose on the type of server where you want to play (pvp, pve,wtfserver (and there are many)), it is a different story if you want just farm people, but in the first thread I do not feel that...
as usual on to post compulsive yearning for justice (you might not impose your how to play a game other than your server or the official serveur), everyone their way to play and have fun. Having to buy the game again to be played not like the devs design want is just a joke, and a very bad !
find a another way like : whitelist (admin choose who can came in their server, maybe with notice in game for admin (a player want to come in your server chat,yes,no)), connection to the server by id (recoverable on community sites), to players who cheat, a red star on the top of the head like pk in mmo, for that we can see him far away, they become targets and go out server where they cheat naturally, BUT SHIT STOP BAN PEOPLE FOR JUST PLAY HOW THEY WANT TO PLAY ! indeed you game no perfect for that ! how many time i just be kicked by the facepunch kick or anothers for a clipping bug in a door or stairs, i jump in little rad 2nd floor for that for example...
i m not a cheater but when i will be bored of this game, why no make crazy things in my server... why i must be ban for that ? and why i must buy again this game for that, not a good way to take player money i think...[/QUOTE]
Cheating is wrong in any way, but I've tried to make two wrongs a right. If it were "allowed", I should've played on a hack server, if available, but that wouldn't make sense since I just needed to retrieve the stuff I lost before on the server I used to play.
[QUOTE=kraze;44063829]It's very likely, but in general paid hacks have more thought put into them. The developers find better ways to bypass the anti-cheats and think of ways they can remain undetected and proactively implement them.[/QUOTE]
Yes, and some paid hacks, in my research, would even promise to buy the game again for you if you ever get caught using their hacks.
I rather just pay the game dev again actually, especially a in-development game. And tbh, I think 98% of them are pure scam.
I might buy it again... someday, after it matures a little bit. Maybe when the rollbacks/wipes are over.
[QUOTE=GTMoraes;44064187]
If you don't believe me for cheating due to lag and rollbacks, that's fine. I can't see another use rather than harvest stuff faster and easier with the tools I used, but it's OK. You're free to imagine whatever, I'm not retrieving anything anyway[/QUOTE]
Rust isn't the only game you've cheated and used hacks in. What was your reason for the other games? In fact looking at your MPGH account that you've had since 2012, (what a surprise, you used the exact same name) you were originally there for Combat Arms cheats. What did you need Combat Arms cheats for? To harvest wood faster? Because of lag and rollbacks?
Admitting you cheated is fine. But no need to further sully yourself with lame excuses.
:suicide: thats your only option
would be funny if you could commit any crime or break any rule IRL, man up to it,
apologize and get off scott-free... maybe in America :dance:
-for all the people that play legit, sure you may be at a disadvantage but then again,
you can read these (or only portions of) posts about getting caught and feel a little smug that justice is a thing and it's being served periodically...
ps. to the OP I honestly almost felt sorry for you, then didn't :P
would have been cheaper to hire a server and spawn everything via admin =] lesson learned I guess.
Give Garry another £15 then you can play again. Hungry man needs another McDonalds.
GTMoraes, for example i choose my first server, in pve server to learn how to play to this game in peace, after i go to pvp but i choose a server where i can téléport to house and my corpse when i m dead, now i play to a real pvp server, you must know in this game death is really punitive, you must think to choose the right server in the start.
you can get new steam account and re buy the game. Will be inconvenient for you if you have many games and friends on old account. But that is what you get man! Fucking hate hackers.
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