Nerf everying! - Rust - Facepunch Forum

Hi! The bow just got nerfed... Seems like fresh spawns need 3 arrows to get killed now. Really I am so dissapointed. Why are you listening to some of the worst criticism there is on this board? If you nerf the bow, please nerf aswell: - Timed explosive charge is too common - Firearms in radtowns are too common - Face Mask too stronk ... - Nerf Armored doors. - Nerf Code Lock - Nerf Repair Bench - Nerf Horse - Nerf Houses - Nerf the world!!!

Nerf the rock pls ...

nerf the torch.

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They are testing it.

Disappointing. The bow is a vital weapon for anyone who hasn't got a ready source of HQ metal to compete with top-tier players. If it's twice as weak (I haven't tested since the patch so only going on this post) then it's pretty useless at doing that. It was a great weapon that required skill to predict movement of your target and rewarded skill with good damage. It isn't the cause of melee weapons not being used. If everyone is the same speed then ranged will always be favoured over melee - that's just the way combat works.

can we nerf lenny as well, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) look at him hes too fukin stronk (im so going to get banned for this so lord postal be gentle with me)

nerf russians

The bow was OP. It was basically a silent bolt action. It was cheap, easy to build, and incredibly powerful. It was always my weapon of choice, and a great way for a guerilla player to take on larger groups or better-equipped players.

[QUOTE=Maximum Over;48613353]The bow was OP. It was basically a silent bolt action. It was cheap, easy to build, and incredibly powerful. It was always my weapon of choice, and a great way for a guerilla player to take on larger groups or better-equipped players.[/QUOTE] We can have a real silent Bolt next week.

[QUOTE=Cpt Facepunch;48613378]We can have a real silent Bolt next week.[/QUOTE] But now my Forest Rambo persona won't be as cool if *everyone* can do it. :(

The bow nerf was probably partially due to the fact that in early starts on servers it basically eclipses every other weapon...If someone is halfway decent with a bow (Which are fairly easy to get early on) then your chances of beating them without getting a good thrown spear or having a bow yourself are very low as the bow doubles as an extremely effective point blank weapon, considering it does far more damage than a melee attack with a low tier weapon, and is capable of instantly killing on unprotected headshot at max health. I agree that its a great middleway for players starting on established servers though; 2-3 people with bows pose a strong threat to even someone with a gun/armor. Maybe there should be something like a metal tipped arrow made with frags, so that you can still do some damage to more advanced players when you get your feet, but the bow isn't so damn powerful when everyone is running around naked. I wouldn't mind the bow being so deadly if there were other low tier options, such as bolas (Rock/cloth) for hitting and slowing someone down if they are running or knocking them over if they are sprinting, and/or an increase in damage across the board for low tier melee weapons because their damages are pathetic compared to arrows, torches and thrown spears.

Personally, I'd be happy if they made guns un-craftable and ultra rare, and replaced them with bows + a variety of arrows.

[QUOTE=Maximum Over;48613353]The bow was OP. It was basically a silent bolt action. It was cheap, easy to build, and incredibly powerful. It was always my weapon of choice, and a great way for a guerilla player to take on larger groups or better-equipped players.[/QUOTE] A large number of folks I run into can't hit the broadside of a barn with a bow. It's a weapon that with practice can be very powerful, as opposed to the still spray and pray capabilities of the Thompson and AK. Because some people can become very proficient with it doesn't make it OP. Against armored folks with health kits, it still required skill and/or luck to win. A HS on a naked still allowing them to run away is UP.

[QUOTE=StryfeKhaos;48613585]Because some people can become very proficient with it doesn't make it OP.[/QUOTE] Call it whatever you like. I'm not up on whatever gamer lingo is going around this week. Point is, the bow is a powerful, under-rated, under-used weapon.

The bow was not nerfed. It was a bug. They fixed it 10min ago. A hooray to all bow masters.

[QUOTE=Cpt Facepunch;48614273]The bow was not nerfed. It was a bug. They fixed it 10min ago. A hooray to all bow masters.[/QUOTE] Woo hoo!

Nope, bow should have been kept the way it was. It's too useful against melee players, whereas before if you were skilled you could hold your own against somebody with a bow. Now anybody who manages to find cloth is able to kill anybody else who doesn't.

[QUOTE=BFG9000;48615400]Nope, bow should have been kept the way it was. It's too useful against melee players, whereas before if you were skilled you could hold your own against somebody with a bow. Now anybody who manages to find cloth is able to kill anybody else who doesn't.[/QUOTE] You need to find like 2 hemp plants to have enough cloth to make a bow.

Ok I heard the news. It's all fine again :) I just downloaded and I'm ready to hit the road. Have fun!

[QUOTE=Maximum Over;48615522]You need to find like 2 hemp plants to have enough cloth to make a bow.[/QUOTE] I could only ever find one. I was looking around in woods like you said but honest I only found one. Then I managed to hunt and kill a horse with 3 spears, only to discover that there's a long-running glitch that makes it so if an animal slides down a hill after death, you can't harvest it. GG Facepunch Studios

They should just make all items throwable. Pickaxes should be funny :yarr:

[QUOTE=SinAssassin;48617245]They should just make all items throwable. Pickaxes should be funny :yarr:[/QUOTE] Not only all items, everything! I want to throw trees at horses and horses at russians. I want to be able to tear off my dick and throw it at people too. Make barrels throwable. Everything. Want to raid a base? Throw a base at it!

[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;48617349]I want to be able to tear off my dick and throw it at people too.[/QUOTE] Garry, shut it down. We've reached peak Rust. Thanks everyone.

Seriously, they need to stop nerfing stuff and instead look at the bigger problem with Melee weapons: THEY AREN'T USEFUL! They just don't have the capabilities other weapons do. Their damage is pitiful (especially when combined with the next two items on this list), they have no range, and even worse someone can just run away from you if you try to attack them with melee. Without a buff to damage, a buff to your speed while using the weapon, or perhaps a varying range to melee depending on what kind and how big the weapon is, Melee weapons other than the spear will never be useful in combat.

[QUOTE=Maximum Over;48613576]Personally, I'd be happy if they made guns un-craftable and ultra rare, and replaced them with bows + a variety of arrows.[/QUOTE] If I had a nickel for every time I heard someone say this. It seems there are two types of Rust players, those who raid, and those who don't. The non-raiders want to pussify everything in the game and the raiders want to maintain the status quo. How do we satisfy both parties? If it was up to me, I would at least experiment with two separate gamemodes that cater to each of these players.

Nerf the land, nerf the wage, Nerf the bed in which he lays. Nerf the tractor, nerf the mule, Teach him nerfing is the rule. Nerf the horse, nerf the goat, Nerf the pants, nerf the coat. Nerf the armor, nerf the shirts, Nerf the rocks, nerf the dirt. Nerf the chew, nerf the smoke, Teach him nerfing is no joke. Nerf the car, nerf the grass, Nerf the roads he must pass. Nerf the food, nerf the drink, Nerf him if he tries to think. Nerf the sodas, nerf the beers, If he cries, nerf the tears. Nerf the bills, nerf the gas, Nerf the notes, nerf the cash. Nerf him good and let him know That after nerfing, he has no dough. If he hollers, nerf him more, Nerf him until he’s good and sore. Nerf the coffin, nerf the grave, Nerf the sod in which he lays. Put these words upon the tomb, "Nerfing drove me to my doom!"

It's Nerf or nothing

[QUOTE=elevate;48617953]It seems there are two types of Rust players, those who raid, and those who don't. The non-raiders want to pussify everything in the game and the raiders want to maintain the status quo. How do we satisfy both parties?[/quote] I don't know which category I fit into, since guns have nothing to do with raiding. But take them away and force players to use the bow, and the game suddenly gets a lot more hardcore. Not many players can hit a running raider with a bow.

[QUOTE=Maximum Over;48623400]I don't know which category I fit into, since guns have nothing to do with raiding. But take them away and force players to use the bow, and the game suddenly gets a lot more hardcore. Not many players can hit a running raider with a bow.[/QUOTE] Interesting way of looking at it. I suppose that ain't half bad. I still really like the idea of having technology in Rust though. I'm really anticipating the release of vehicles for instance.