1-2 Naked Player: Hardly raidable or Un-raidable base for less than 250 Wooden Planks.

[Fervus]

Good Day Dear Naked Rust Players!

I've spent hours and hours trying to build a raid free base, but in current conditions it is just impossible.
There is always a way to raid or even few!

I have divided base defense in two parts: [B]inner defense[/B] and [B]outer defense[/B].

To protect your base from the[B] inside raid[/B], best solution is to use suicide method and some pillars in necessary.

For your [B]outer defense[/B]... there is no magic system or structure, you may build a pillar forest around your base or a singe foundation...however a persistent raider will find a way to counter it.

For the reason mentioned above, i've started to search for a specific/unique place which would provide me with a good passive outer defense for my base and would save me lots of resources.
In other worlds, raiders won't be able to build towers next to my base.

[B]I would like to show you my [U]prototype [/U]of such building and would be happy to hear your feedback. [/B]

1. Look for outside.

[IMG]http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2014/02/01/2014-02-010000872W1f.jpg [/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2014/02/01/2014-02-0100010.jpg[/IMG]

2. How to get in and take your loot.

[IMG]http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2014/02/01/2014-02-0100002.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2014/02/01/2014-02-0100004.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2014/02/01/2014-02-0100015.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2014/02/01/2014-02-0100016.jpg[/IMG]

Terrain:

[IMG]http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2014/02/01/2014-02-0100005.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2014/02/01/2014-02-0100006.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2014/02/01/2014-02-0100007.jpg[/IMG]

Look inside:

[IMG]http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2014/02/01/2014-02-0100014.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2014/02/01/2014-02-0100017.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2014/02/01/2014-02-0100012.jpg[/IMG]

How it works:

[IMG]http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2014/02/01/2014-02-0100008ltU7r.jpg[/IMG]

[Jesus Crits]

I dont really see how youre sopposed to get inside

[MrScratch]

You kill yourself.

[klinkvonstal]

That's all survival is about. Killing yourself to be safe.

[apenstrijder]

so .. if i get a crapload of loot i kill myself?
dude i can get these UNRAIDABLE bases myself but the trick is: u can actually get inside?
and i can still raid this man..
build a stairs.. thats it :P

[MrQuacka]

Well the concept of those bases is pretty nice, maybe in the future we can get some rope-ladders.

Negative point would be you need another person inside to let it down for you to come in or if you are playing alone everyone could use the rope-ladder until you pull it back when back at base.

[leopoldfrank]

edit... I get it now... he climbs to the crate... puts all his shit in there... then suicides... respawns in base... opens the back door... get's all his stuff out the crate... sorted... pretty clever...

[greasydonut]

This is clever but you can still build stairs up it

[Sgt.Shadz]

Sure ... u can build stairs within those 4 pillars he made .. but if u look at the screenie on the ground ... there is no place for a foundation beside any corner ... u can not build beside due to the rocks ...

I am afraid you will need to find a better solution to get inside ...

There is one way tho ...

Bring your sleeping back, and if not secured good enough around, you can add the bag on the crate, suicide, get your bag, and add it to the next floor... suicide, and you are in!

Cons: you can not do this solo, ( you can, but it takes a long long time )
Pros: when u first get in, you can take over the base, and as you know how to do it, you can then prevent it from happening again!

[Shotz]

[QUOTE=greasydonut;43748744]This is clever but you can still build stairs up it[/QUOTE]
-snip read op wrong-

[Sgt.Shadz]

edit: there already is a pillar where the crate is....

[idonthinkso]

so you jump to get access to your storage box, put all the things you gathered in it and then you suicide to spawn in your base? after that you switch the whole stuff from the box into another inside your base?

[MrScratch]

[QUOTE=idonthinkso;43748929]so you jump to get access to your storage box, put all the things you gathered in it and then you suicide to spawn in your base? after that you switch the whole stuff from the box into another inside your base?[/QUOTE]
Basically you shift loot around boxes while exploiting respawns. Clever use of game mechanics.

[Deviation]

[B]I like it. I'll try and remake this on another server some time.[/B]

[editline]1st February 2014[/editline]

Wait, how would you get your sleeping back in after building?

[Fervus]

[QUOTE=leopoldfrank;43748693]edit... I get it now... he climbs to the crate... puts all his shit in there... then suicides... respawns in base... opens the back door... get's all his stuff out the crate... sorted... pretty clever...[/QUOTE]
That's right.

[QUOTE=Deviation;43749059][B]I like it. I'll try and remake this on another server some time.[/B]

[editline]1st February 2014[/editline]

Wait, how would you get your sleeping back in after building?[/QUOTE]

I used barricade on a pillar, placed ceiling and sleeping bag. You will need to use stairs and barricades to build it.

However, the main trick here is terrain, not the tower :)

[editline]1st February 2014[/editline]

P.S. if this topic is interesting, i will add few more small and tricky bases that i have created recently :smile:

Hope they will be useful.

[Celani10]

[QUOTE=Deviation;43749059][B]I like it. I'll try and remake this on another server some time.[/B]

[editline]1st February 2014[/editline]

Wait, how would you get your sleeping back in after building?[/QUOTE]

You need to build stairs first on the foundation.... after you finish building you close it with a ceiling and destroy all stairs, after destroying all stairs you place a pillar in the middle of the foundation so you can't build stairs again

[racoiaws]

It looks like the base is still pretty easy to raid by placing a spike wall between two pillars. The fact that you can place stairs under the house is also helpful.

[UltraMankill]

You should have placed ceilings every so often underneath the base so stairs could not be placed.

[Fervus]

[QUOTE=UltraMankill;43749740]You should have placed ceilings every so often underneath the base so stairs could not be placed.[/QUOTE]

Stairs can't be placed when there is a pillar in the middle.
Every level has 9 pillars.

[kirbies]

Where is this located? Seems like it needs a very specific rock formation to work

If you could give the coords using this it would be fantastic [url]http://playrustwiki.com/images/6/62/Newbie_Navigation_2.2.jpg[/url]

[Fervus]

[QUOTE=kirbies;43750303]Where is this located? Seems like it needs a very specific rock formation to work

If you could give the coords using this it would be fantastic [url]http://playrustwiki.com/images/6/62/Newbie_Navigation_2.2.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, i can't answer your question.
It took me 2 days to find 5 spots like that, few are very close to rad towns.

[UltraMankill]

[QUOTE=Fervus;43749806]Stairs can't be placed when there is a pillar in the middle.
Every level has 9 pillars.[/QUOTE]

Oh really? I haven't played in like 2 months so i guess they patched it.

[Gentle Puppy]

The great thing is you don't have to raid it to really really piss off the owner and shut it down forever. What I do when I see those sorts of "unraidable" bases when on my solo prospecting sprees is destroy the crate and build a pillar in its place. Problem solved.

The owner can then never transfer another item into the base and they will move out.

If you are really cheap and cant afford a pillar most other objects will also suffice.

[Fervus]

[QUOTE=Gentle Puppy;43750645]The great thing is you don't have to raid it to really really piss off the owner and shut it down forever. What I do when I see those sorts of "unraidable" bases when on my solo prospecting sprees is destroy the crate and build a pillar in its place. Problem solved.

The owner can then never transfer another item into the base and they will move out.

If you are really cheap and cant afford a pillar most other objects will also suffice.[/QUOTE]

Haha, good one )

But my pillar is under my house

[kirbies]

Could you elaborate on how you put a sleeping bag inside? I dont see how you would be able to put it over the ceiling since there is no room for more foundations

[keeftoasty]

you guys build all these hard to raid bases or huge bases but my tactic has been to set up a bunch of DECOY rooms with lots of large crates, furnaces, workbench and a sleeping bag or 2. i have an empty room with a metal door and in the middle i put about 8 small stashes and i put all my important shit in there when i log off, i play on heavy pvp servers lone wolf and my walls are always blown off. They always go for the loot rooms.

the key is to leave a gun or some stuff in the crates so they think you already got raided and dont try other rooms for the hell of it.

I also like to leave the damage done so the next raider that comes snooping by will already think somebody else got the good stuff.

I play solo most of the time and this has never failed me from losing anything at all

also the small stashes only register on your screen when your about 2 feet from them so placing them in the middle of an "empty" room prevents people from seeing them from the outside.

[Fervus]

[QUOTE=keeftoasty;43750883]you guys build all these hard to raid bases or huge bases but my tactic has been to set up a bunch of DECOY rooms with lots of large crates, furnaces, workbench and a sleeping bag or 2. i have an empty room with a metal door and in the middle i put about 8 small stashes and i put all my important shit in there when i log off, i play on heavy pvp servers lone wolf and my walls are always blown off. They always go for the loot rooms.

the key is to leave a gun or some stuff in the crates so they think you already got raided and dont try other rooms for the hell of it.

I also like to leave the damage done so the next raider that comes snooping by will already think somebody else got the good stuff.

I play solo most of the time and this has never failed me from losing anything at all

also the small stashes only register on your screen when your about 2 feet from them so placing them in the middle of an "empty" room prevents people from seeing them from the outside.[/QUOTE]

Your approach is very good, i use decoy for my shelters, always works :)

But there are two areas that i would like to cover:

You won't be able to keep lots of resources, only main items.
It requires lots of wood and time to build a base with sufficient amount of Decoy rooms for 1 player.

[editline]1st February 2014[/editline]

[IMG]http://i60.tinypic.com/9s89ag.jpg[/IMG]

Sorry for my paint skills :P

[keeftoasty]

[QUOTE=Fervus;43751013]
You won't be able to keep lots of resources, only main items.
It requires lots of wood and time to build a base with sufficient amount of Decoy rooms for 1 player.[/QUOTE]

why would you keep lots of resources? i make ammo and gunpowder and armor as soon as i have the resources so to dim down all the shit i build up

8x3=24

that is plenty slots to store your guns, Ammo, Low Q metal, armor, food, etc.

and you dont need a lot of decoy rooms, 1 works just fine. even in a 2x1 they are always going to blow the wall with the loot rather than going thru 2 metal doors.

[kirbies]

Fervus so i found a good spot to do it, its tricky to get ontop of the mountain too. Im in a creative server (unlmited resources) if you were to join me could you show me how to make it? my steam name is "kirbies"

[Pongard]

I just wonder, do you really need a "complicated" place like that? Will not just any place where you just can build 1x1 do? I guess you could even do this with 2x1 etc. as long as you duplicate everything you did on the first foundation (except the crate, you only need to do this once).

Or am I missing something?