Private servers will ruin the game. - Rust

Hello thank you for taking the time to read this post. First of all i would like to address the problem with private servers. Over the past week i have been banned from 3 servers (Uk garrys version, Nordic Eu, Haven pvp) on all 3 for "hacking" even though we have proof that we are not hacking. the only populated server we can play on is BMRF but that server for me lags too much to even play on now basically i can't enjoy the game as i could before private servers were added the only good way to fix this giant mess is to remove private servers but i don't see that happening i hope someone can understand the point of this because this means any good groups (so to speak) that join a try hard admin populated server will probably get banned sooner or later if you want a example go on Haven and enjoy getting raided by the admins but if you try and raid back instant ban. Also what does everyone think about the private servers as i would like to see other opinions from old and new players. Edit: to prove this 4 of our friends that was on the server also got banned for "aimbotting" because they stood under the admins base killing them.

get a vpn for like $5/month, bmrf is the best

Im not complaining i am banned from the servers im complaining about the amount the childish admins that ban people because they are better than them.

We have proof you guys cheated on Haven. Ask Strite for the video. Also: [url]http://facepunch.com/search.php?do=finduser&userid=589246&starteronly=1&contenttype=vBForum_Thread[/url] Looks like you get banned all over the place for playing 'legit'.

Provide the video please. [editline]29th November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=panicx72;43019648]We have proof you guys cheated on Haven. Ask Strite for the video.[/QUOTE] We have proof we didn't Jaeger was streaming it the whole time.

We at BMRF have a whitelisted server now DeV123, performance on that should be better. We are aware though that there is a performance issue but it's been getting better as we tweak our custom made admin tools.

Yep, you were indeed banned from our server. Perhaps being banned from three different servers within the space of a week should tell you something? Several people on our server complained about your antics and when confronted with that you start calling out insults such as 'go die of cancer' and yet you have the tenacity to call other people childish? If you want to cheat then rent your own server and do it on there. We will not tolerate it on our server and we most definitely won't tolerate people telling the admins to die of cancer. Stop being so self-entitled, you're playing on a server being paid for by other people so either play by their rules (ours are available to read [URL="http://haventeam.net/142-serverrules"]here[/URL]) or don't play there at all.

[QUOTE=panicx72;43019648]We have proof you guys cheated on Haven. Ask Strite for the video. Also: [url]http://facepunch.com/search.php?do=finduser&userid=589246&starteronly=1&contenttype=vBForum_Thread[/url] Looks like you get banned all over the place for playing 'legit'.[/QUOTE] Link the video please stop wasting time i want to see how it was hacking.

=/ Sorry to hear you've been having problems with the other servers. I don't see them removing private servers either as it would be more expensive for them to host their own. May I ask what proof you have of you guys not hacking?

[QUOTE=CP;43019696]=/ Sorry to hear you've been having problems with the other servers. I don't see them removing private servers either as it would be more expensive for them to host their own. May I ask what proof you have of you guys not hacking?[/QUOTE] They have streams. However, you can hide cheat frameworks from streams.

[QUOTE=Strite;43019693]Yep, you were indeed banned from our server. Perhaps being banned from three different servers within the space of a week should tell you something? Several people on our server complained about your antics and when confronted with that you start calling out insults such as 'go die of cancer' and yet you have the tenacity to call other people childish? If you want to cheat then rent your own server and do it on there. We will not tolerate it on our server and we most definitely won't tolerate people telling the admins to die of cancer. Stop being so self-entitled, you're playing on a server being paid for by other people so either play by their rules (ours are available to read [URL="http://haventeam.net/142-serverrules"]here[/URL]) or don't play there at all.[/QUOTE] It was "i hope you get cancer" thats not the point of me getting banned. you guys didn't want us in the server because you tried to raid us as soon as we built our houses then griefed it and was like "mind if i go in your base?" and then when you all died from lag because you was standing still... so stop trying to cover up the fact you guys are childish enough to ban players because we was raiding you is enough to lose respect, at first i thought it was cool you kept trying to raid us, gave us people to fight then you call 9 people to raid 3 and get ambushed and destroyed becuase we flanked you then call hacks and say you have proof then you are unable to link said "proof" and instead you cover up it up becuase i said "I hope you get cancer" out of rage and anger becuase you banned my friends just before i said that. [editline]29th November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=panicx72;43019724]They have streams. However, you can hide cheat frameworks from streams.[/QUOTE] are you serious, you cannot hide aimbot and that is what you accused us of so next excuse of not being able to raid 3 people please? [editline]29th November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=CP;43019696]=/ Sorry to hear you've been having problems with the other servers. I don't see them removing private servers either as it would be more expensive for them to host their own. May I ask what proof you have of you guys not hacking?[/QUOTE] one of our guys which gets accused the most (Jaeger) was streaming the entire thing in which he killed most of them in a 3v9. he will highlight it as soon as he gets back and i will post said highlight for everyone to see. [editline]29th November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Strite;43019693]Yep, you were indeed banned from our server. Perhaps being banned from three different servers within the space of a week should tell you something? Several people on our server complained about your antics and when confronted with that you start calling out insults such as 'go die of cancer' and yet you have the tenacity to call other people childish? If you want to cheat then rent your own server and do it on there. We will not tolerate it on our server and we most definitely won't tolerate people telling the admins to die of cancer. Stop being so self-entitled, you're playing on a server being paid for by other people so either play by their rules (ours are available to read [URL="http://haventeam.net/142-serverrules"]here[/URL]) or don't play there at all.[/QUOTE] "Please refrain from accusing people of using exploits unless you have indisputable evidence to back up your claims" You broke your own rule.

[QUOTE=DeV123;43019732]and instead you cover up it up [B]becuase i said "I hope you get cancer" out of rage and anger[/B] becuase you banned my friends just before i said that. [/QUOTE] Real mature. Anyhow, not trying to cover anything up. You were banned because I had reason to believe you were using an exploit. I don't need to explain myself any more than that. One of our members has submitted the video to FacePunch. We're doing our duty as alpha testers rest assured.

[QUOTE=Strite;43019798]Real mature. Anyhow, not trying to cover anything up. You were banned because I had reason to believe you were using an exploit. I don't need to explain myself anymore than that. One of our members has submitted the video to FacePunch. We're doing our duty as alpha testers rest assured.[/QUOTE] I apologize for saying that it was out of pure anger, but panic said you had a video and i asked to post it for me and you have failed to do so. so if i may ask polity for you to please post this video because otherwise you pretty much had no reason to ban me because you are not providing any proof when we will provide proof we didn't hack.

Strite's server, he may do whatever he pleases. He doesn't own you any explanation for his actions. If it was my server everyone QQing about your friends beeing banned would also be banned.

[QUOTE=DeV123;43019826]I apologize for saying that it was out of pure anger, but panic said you had a video and i asked to post it for me and you have failed to do so. so if i may ask polity for you to please post this video because otherwise you pretty much had no reason to ban me because you are not providing any proof when we will provide proof we didn't hack.[/QUOTE] I don't have to provide you with any proof whatsoever. I have provided you with the [B]reason[/B] that you were banned and the video itself has been forwarded to the development team, I have no desire to post the video on the public forum whereby all it will do is lead to further arguments. Let them make of it what they will. I'm not going to spend any more time arguing with you because it will achieve nothing. I stand by my original decision to ban you, you believe you were wrongly banned. No point dragging this on. Banning somebody is always a regrettable decision but sometimes it's a necessary one. Have a good weekend.

[QUOTE=Strite;43019891]I don't have to provide you with any proof whatsoever. I have provided you with the [B]reason[/B] that you were banned and the video itself has been forwarded to the development team, I have no desire to post the video on the public forum whereby all it will do is lead to further arguments. Let them make of it what they will. I'm not going to spend any more time arguing with you because it will achieve nothing. I stand by my original decision to ban you, you believe you were wrongly banned. No point dragging this on. Banning somebody is always a regrettable decision but sometimes it's a necessary one. Have a good weekend.[/QUOTE] Why did panic get all offensive when you 100% think we hack then as soon as we have proof you go on the defensive and say you don't need to provide proof even though panic was getting cocky saying ask you to provide the video. I hope you have fun with abusing admin powers (I have proof but i dont need to justify myself to you) Good day. [editline]29th November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Strite;43019891]I don't have to provide you with any proof whatsoever. I have provided you with the [B]reason[/B] that you were banned and the video itself has been forwarded to the development team, I have no desire to post the video on the public forum whereby all it will do is lead to further arguments. Let them make of it what they will. I'm not going to spend any more time arguing with you because it will achieve nothing. I stand by my original decision to ban you, you believe you were wrongly banned. No point dragging this on. Banning somebody is always a regrettable decision but sometimes it's a necessary one. Have a good weekend.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.twitch.tv/lshgaming/b/483757412[/url] skip to 21:30 and watch from jaegers point of view and tell me where the aimbot is.

Having server admins play the game will always lead to this kind of thing with admin abuse/admin abuse claims, which is why we don't usually play on the servers we put up, to assure unbiased administrating. That said, no one in the BMRF community has complained about anything DeV123 has done which makes me doubt he's guilty, and his proof seems to be pretty clear cut. EDIT: You can pretend my comments are dumb all you want panic. Fact is we serve thousands upon thousands of people and we're known for administrative excellence, and I say these bans are bogus, get mad son.

lmao hackers getting pissed when they get banned. What is this VAC section of steam user forums

[QUOTE=BMRFMULTIBEAR;43020089]Having server admins play the game will always lead to this kind of thing with admin abuse/admin abuse claims, which is why we don't usually play on the servers we put up, to assure unbiased administrating. [/QUOTE] I've seen admins on your server spawning airdrops and shit for people so gtfo.

[QUOTE=CP;43020474]I've seen admins on your server spawning airdrops and shit for people so gtfo.[/QUOTE] Nice slander, only 1 admin has a key and he only connects to solve disputes. Nice try though.

[QUOTE=BMRFMULTIBEAR;43020533]Nice slander, only 1 admin has a key and he only connects to solve disputes. Nice try though.[/QUOTE] Lol is it slander when the truth is brought up? Nah I don't think so me and multiple friends used to play on your server and left after seeing multiple accounts of it. Good luck buddy.

[QUOTE=CP;43020574]Lol is it slander when the truth is brought up? Nah I don't think so me and multiple friends used to play on your server and left after seeing multiple accounts of it. Good luck buddy.[/QUOTE] I explained why it's slander. Ask our thousands of satisfied players. If someone was spawning in shit it was not an admin.

[QUOTE=BMRFMULTIBEAR;43020089] You can pretend my comments are dumb all you want panic. Fact is we serve thousands upon thousands of people and we're known for administrative excellence, and I say these bans are bogus, get mad son.[/QUOTE] Slagging off other servers and admins that you know nothing about to promote your own? Well played sir. You don't know me from Adam and you know nothing of the situation other than what you've read and the stream which shows a single part of the incident from a single person's perspective. You're entitled to your opinion of course, but nothing about the ban is 'bogus.' I had to make a decision so I did and I would do the same again. DeV has been causing trouble on our server for a while now and had been temporarily banned previously for resorting to personal insults of other members.

[QUOTE=BMRFMULTIBEAR;43020646]I explained why it's slander. Ask our thousands of satisfied players. If someone was spawning in shit it was not an admin.[/QUOTE] Lol just because you have thousands of satisfied players on other games doesn't mean a thing on this game. The simple fact that you have "satisfied players " Doesn't make something disappear or turn truth into slander.

[QUOTE=CP;43020694]Lol just because you have thousands of satisfied players on other games doesn't mean a thing on this game. The simple fact that you have "satisfied players " Doesn't make something disappear or turn truth into slander.[/QUOTE] It does by the simple fact we don't have anyone who plays the game actively with access to rcon. [QUOTE]Slagging off other servers and admins that you know nothing about to promote your own? Well played sir. You don't know me from Adam and you know nothing of the situation other than what you've read and the stream which shows a single part of the incident from a single person's perspective. You're entitled to your opinion of course, but nothing about the ban is 'bogus.' I had to make a decision so I did and I would do the same again. DeV has been causing trouble on our server for a while now and had been temporarily banned previously for resorting to personal insults of other members. [/QUOTE] I know that he has played on our servers and that there were no complaints, and I know for a fact that he didn't noclip on our servers as we log no clipping. Besides that the fact is that admin abuse IS rampant makes me side with him. Admins kicking people for beating them sounds pretty normal to me sadly with how frequent it is on gameservers.

[QUOTE=BMRFMULTIBEAR;43020796]It does by the simple fact we don't have anyone who plays the game actively with access to rcon. I know that he has played on our servers and that there were no complaints, and I know for a fact that he didn't noclip on our servers as we log no clipping. Besides that the fact is that admin abuse IS rampant makes me side with him. Admins kicking people for beating them sounds pretty normal to me sadly with how frequent it is on gameservers.[/QUOTE] Well for your sake I hope he doesn't do something on your server that results in you having to ban him and eat your words... Again, I take no pleasure in banning people and he was not banned simply because he raided us, we've been raided several times by a bunch of people on the server and they haven't received a ban or been treated with anything other than respect. That's the last I'll say on the matter.

[QUOTE=Strite;43020653]Slagging off other servers and admins that you know nothing about to promote your own? Well played sir. You don't know me from Adam and you know nothing of the situation other than what you've read and the stream which shows a single part of the incident from a single person's perspective. You're entitled to your opinion of course, but nothing about the ban is 'bogus.' I had to make a decision so I did and I would do the same again. DeV has been causing trouble on our server for a while now and had been temporarily banned previously for resorting to personal insults of other members.[/QUOTE] Causing trouble? like me complaining that swearing is against the rules but greifing is aloud? urm ok [editline]29th November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Strite;43020831]Well for your sake I hope he doesn't do something on your server that results in you having to ban him and eat your words... Again, I take no pleasure in banning people and he was not banned simply because he raided us, we've been raided several times by a bunch of people on the server and they haven't received a ban or been treated with anything other than respect. That's the last I'll say on the matter.[/QUOTE] Thats a lie becuase we had 4 people go to your base to test if they will get banned if they kill you. All 4 was banned instantly after you got killed.

Video looked pretty good to me, i've also seen someone who was either really good or cheating, and it turned out he was just really good (bchillz), and luckily the admins didnt just assume he was cheating and ban him, a shame that is not the case for you dev!

[QUOTE=Geff;43021233]Video looked pretty good to me, i've also seen someone who was either really good or cheating, and it turned out he was just really good (bchillz), and luckily the admins didnt just assume he was cheating and ban him, a shame that is not the case for you dev![/QUOTE] That's funny, he is actually banned, although not for aimbotting. He refused to make an appeal though so...