Idea for a better weapon system and weapon crafting. - Rust

I really do think that the gun crafting system is total bullshit, the game is aiming for realism from what i know so i think this suggestion will be very valid. I think that the current weapons should NOT b craftable but should spawn in the world with prefixes like Rusty M4, Faulty M4, Masterwork M4, i am sure the engine could handle that since the armor types have stats and also the weapons that you can craft from blueprints should actually look like they are "homemade". So if there is a M4 blueprint you craft a "Homemade M4" which doesn't look like it was taken out fresh from the factory but so the guns you craft look something like this: [IMG]http://www.mikecooper.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/diy_rifle_ch.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/files/images/vc-pistol.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://edge.liveleak.com/80281E/s/s/19/media19/2013/Jan/26/LiveLeak-dot-com-9f846476a7b4-7.jpg.resized.jpg?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bad0914f44dfd49dc0&ec_rate=200[/IMG] [IMG]http://edge.liveleak.com/80281E/s/s/19/media19/2013/Jan/26/LiveLeak-dot-com-a2f825acd11d-11.jpg.resized.jpg?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bad0914f44dfd49dc0&ec_rate=200[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.pinoyrepublic.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Homemade-shotgun.jpg[/IMG] Guys please tell me what you think and if you like this idea do your best to make it seen by the devs, thanks!

How do you know the game is aiming for realism?

It might be far fetched for me to say this but what if molds are added and you use parts from guns and assemble them instead?

[QUOTE=Owsen;41931269]How do you know the game is aiming for realism?[/QUOTE] I guess i can see? Compare this to Minecraft, both survival games, you can see clearly that Rust is aiming for a realistic survival experience. [editline]22nd August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=zenthekiller;41931397]It might be far fetched for me to say this but what if molds are added and you use parts from guns and assemble them instead?[/QUOTE] That is a good idea too but i reckon that homemade weapons are classic, no other survival game has such a system.

[QUOTE=9jakub9;41931451]I guess i can see? Compare this to Minecraft, both survival games, you can see clearly that Rust is aiming for a realistic survival experience. [editline]22nd August 2013[/editline] That is a good idea too but i reckon that homemade weapons are classic, no other survival game has such a system.[/QUOTE] Yes, but your suggestion would completly change how the game works. I don't know if it's in the developers' interest to change it now, if ever.

[QUOTE=Owsen;41931485]Yes, but your suggestion would completely change how the game works. I don't know if it's in the developers' interest to change it now, if ever.[/QUOTE] Yes i know what you mean you are right. The game is still good as it it but i have seen other people post similar things with the homemade weapons so it is a pretty popular idea.

You know, considering you learn crafting through the literal military/factory grade blueprint, and the metal you smelt can actually be either custom parts for the guns or scrap, I didn't really think much of it. I mean, what do you think a blueprint is? A blue piece of paper that says: "how maek m4. metal scraps x200"?

[QUOTE=9jakub9;41931203]Hello, sorry for the vulgar name od this post but i really do think that the gun crafting system is total bullshit, the game is aiming for realism from what i know so i think this suggestion will be very valid. I think that the current weapons should NOT b craftable but should spawn in the world with prefixes like Rusty M4, Faulty M4, Masterwork M4, i am sure the engine could handle that since the armor types have stats and also the weapons that you can craft from blueprints should actually look like they are "homemade". So if there is a M4 blueprint you craft a "Homemade M4" which doesn't look like it was taken out fresh from the factory but so the guns you craft look something like this: [IMG]http://www.mikecooper.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/diy_rifle_ch.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/files/images/vc-pistol.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://edge.liveleak.com/80281E/s/s/19/media19/2013/Jan/26/LiveLeak-dot-com-9f846476a7b4-7.jpg.resized.jpg?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bad0914f44dfd49dc0&ec_rate=200[/IMG] [IMG]http://edge.liveleak.com/80281E/s/s/19/media19/2013/Jan/26/LiveLeak-dot-com-a2f825acd11d-11.jpg.resized.jpg?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bad0914f44dfd49dc0&ec_rate=200[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.pinoyrepublic.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Homemade-shotgun.jpg[/IMG] Guys please tell me what you think and if you like this idea do your best to make it seen by the devs, thanks![/QUOTE] I like it, it seems more realistic. If you think about it, there's no way in heck a person can make a decent m4 with a blueprint.I for one like the gun ideas, plus this could be different from a lot of survival games.

Defo going to be something similar to this ingame, the M4's and MP5's are going to be super leet almost impossible to craft and likely obtained from supply drops or otherwise.. people will fight with a more homemade firearm approach

[QUOTE=Helk;41934990]Defo going to be something similar to this ingame, the M4's and MP5's are going to be super leet almost impossible to craft and likely obtained from supply drops or otherwise.. people will fight with a more homemade firearm approach[/QUOTE] hey i posted a thread that also gave an opinion on weapons and how they should be handled, if you could check it out and let me know what you think that would be amazing!

a lot of people post threads like this during the course of the week. this is the one by far that is actually smart

[QUOTE=Helk;41934990]Defo going to be something similar to this ingame, the M4's and MP5's are going to be super leet almost impossible to craft and likely obtained from supply drops or otherwise.. people will fight with a more homemade firearm approach[/QUOTE] So are you going to add new models etcetera? On a youtube video a person said that when you craft a weapon it can randomly have an attachment so what if let's say we have our M4 blueprint and we craft it using homemade materials but since it is a home crafted weapon it has randomized stats like the range of fire could be lower but the rate of fire could be higher, if there was skills you could make this depend on what a player's "crafting" skill is. What do you think of this idea?

[QUOTE=9jakub9;41938156]So are you going to add new models etcetera? On a youtube video a person said that when you craft a weapon it can randomly have an attachment so what if let's say we have our M4 blueprint and we craft it using homemade materials but since it is a home crafted weapon it has randomized stats like the range of fire could be lower but the rate of fire could be higher, if there was skills you could make this depend on what a player's "crafting" skill is. What do you think of this idea?[/QUOTE] I like the random-ish stats, I don't want range to be like random 1-500 but somewhere 100-150 would be great, but crafting skills are stupid, it would make the game, needed to level and that's not what Rust is going for, and I don't really see any point in it.

[QUOTE=PrinceChawmin;41932982]I like it, it seems more realistic. If you think about it, there's no way in heck a person can make a decent m4 with a blueprint.I for one like the gun ideas, plus this could be different from a lot of survival games.[/QUOTE] I Understand what you are going for but It would kind of take away from the game if you had a "Homemade Shit weapon". It may be just me but Id rather come out with a m4 factory then that. At least I think so.

[QUOTE=9jakub9;41931203]I really do think that the gun crafting system is total bullshit, the game is aiming for realism from what i know so i think this suggestion will be very valid. I think that the current weapons should NOT b craftable but should spawn in the world with prefixes like Rusty M4, Faulty M4, Masterwork M4, i am sure the engine could handle that since the armor types have stats and also the weapons that you can craft from blueprints should actually look like they are "homemade". So if there is a M4 blueprint you craft a "Homemade M4" which doesn't look like it was taken out fresh from the factory but so the guns you craft look something like this: [IMG]http://www.mikecooper.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/diy_rifle_ch.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/files/images/vc-pistol.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://edge.liveleak.com/80281E/s/s/19/media19/2013/Jan/26/LiveLeak-dot-com-9f846476a7b4-7.jpg.resized.jpg?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bad0914f44dfd49dc0&ec_rate=200[/IMG] [IMG]http://edge.liveleak.com/80281E/s/s/19/media19/2013/Jan/26/LiveLeak-dot-com-a2f825acd11d-11.jpg.resized.jpg?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bad0914f44dfd49dc0&ec_rate=200[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.pinoyrepublic.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Homemade-shotgun.jpg[/IMG] Guys please tell me what you think and if you like this idea do your best to make it seen by the devs, thanks![/QUOTE] well i do agree that the crafted items should look more homemade, that way it fits alot more with the character of the game but the idea of good and polished guns to be spawned in the loot depends on the lore that the devs decide on later on (depends on how long ago did the outbreak start) over all a good though =)