Good evening!
I wanted to stress the opinion of this firearm being placed in-game as a craftable weapon ( not as a airdrop exclusive, like the M249). Personally, I am the more of the M4 guy than the Ak guy. We already have the Ak in the game, so why not release the M4. The M4 family and the Ak family are the most compared and contrasted rifles known... You can walk up to anyone as ask them if they know what an M4 or Ak is. In my opinion having one in-game isn't complete without the other.
Now I know that working on alternative firearms isn't the main focus at this time. I'm strictly asking for an opinion on the thought. Also tell me if this was planned for a future update. I'm sure this has been brought up in the past, so tell let me know what happened in that tread, if you saw one.
This was my favorite weapon for sure and i really dont know why its not in this new version i also like the MP5 i wonder if they are going to be introduced
i really hope so
[QUOTE=Sneak2;49833893]This was my favorite weapon for sure and i really dont know why its not in this new version i also like the MP5 i wonder if they are going to be introduced
i really hope so[/QUOTE]
Now, one thing I'm now noticing is that all weapons in the game are " makeshift" sort of say. Making the m4 or Mp5 into some rusty rifle or something or that sort. Bunch of possibilities for M4 or Mp5
i want to see this weapon all patched up , ducked and wooden handguard , M4 and AK are the most known weapons on earth so why not add them , m4 can be accurate and lower recoil but less damage then ak , its all about personal preference , it could fit the game so much
I would like to see automatic weapons with more control besides the Thompson.
So Thompson has more Damage but more recoil and less mag then custom smg so why not add a waistlanded m4 that has less recoil, better accuracy but less damage, perfect fit as I said earlier it's all in personal preference, afterall it's an apocalypse you can have every gun that you want and m4 uses 5.56 bullet
Make modern weapons airdrop only uncraftable and everything is great again
nah , m4 should be crafted but like wooden handguard , ducktaped and nailed stock and stuff , only weapon that should be in airdrop is a sniper rifle
[QUOTE=warlord1999;49842991]nah , m4 should be crafted but like wooden handguard , ducktaped and nailed stock and stuff , only weapon that should be in airdrop is a sniper rifle[/QUOTE]
I dont know if we need that much Modern weapons in rust currently i would like to have some core gameplay features first that do change player interaction, A proper Hunger system, Stamina Stuff like that, New AI. we dont need about 20 Weapons for each purpose atm. they should focus on some more Survival related items.
[QUOTE=SulliG99;49842860]Make modern weapons airdrop only uncraftable and everything is great again[/QUOTE]
The whole point is to not have it in an airdrop. So the Ak and M4 are be close to equal. Ak is a modern rifle, it's craftable, same should be with the M4. M4 can have a lower damage with higher control and rate of fire. I rarely see people running around with the m249 because it's so uncommon tha no one wants to risk losing it. I see my group only use it for a base defense...
[QUOTE=Scatches;49843266]The whole point is to not have it in an airdrop. So the Ak and M4 are be close to equal. Ak is a modern rifle, it's craftable, same should be with the M4. M4 can have a lower damage with higher control and rate of fire. I rarely see people running around with the m249 because it's so uncommon tha no one wants to risk losing it. I see my group only use it for a base defense...[/QUOTE]
The Point is a M249 is only obtainable by an Chopper while an Airdrop is a lot more common and dont involves a 5-10minutes long fight to get that weapon. I think you would see a lot more M249 around if they could be a possible airdrop suprise.
I want a M4-A1 S Cyrex which is uncraftable.
You all can't deny the truth that you all want to see an apocalyptic m4 it's in your blood, as for bigfoots in dungeons I would like to see that but I had enough of aks and bolt rifles
[QUOTE=warlord1999;49843559]You all can't deny the truth that you all want to see an apocalyptic m4 it's in your blood, as for bigfoots in dungeons I would like to see that but I had enough of aks and bolt rifles[/QUOTE]
I dont want this game to be a Sandbox Cod honestly
[QUOTE=warlord1999;49843559]You all can't deny the truth that you all want to see an apocalyptic m4 it's in your blood, as for bigfoots in dungeons I would like to see that but I had enough of aks and bolt rifles[/QUOTE]
Ive grown sick of Ak's and bolts
The devs want to focus more on hand weapons instead of guns, which I would prefer
[QUOTE=raz r23;49843639]The devs want to focus more on hand weapons instead of guns, which I would prefer[/QUOTE]
Figuratively explain what you mean by a hand weapon. Our you talking about melee weapons and such?
I hate when people are too dumb to understand that MORE WEAPONS DONT TURN THIS GAME INTO COD ,its just about more fun and personal preference , its an apocalypse and you got every weapon on your disposal so you can use everything you want , aks and bolts got me sick
[QUOTE=warlord1999;49845507]I hate when people are too dumb to understand that MORE WEAPONS DONT TURN THIS GAME INTO COD ,its just about more fun and personal preference , its an apocalypse and you got every weapon on your disposal so you can use everything you want , aks and bolts got me sick[/QUOTE]
And ya know I hate it when people are to dumb to realize that this game is NOT about more weapons,its about survival.
[QUOTE=lordrushx1;49845704]And ya know I hate it when people are to dumb to realize that this game is NOT about more weapons,its about survival.[/QUOTE]
But you need guns to survive
[QUOTE=RaaR;49845921]But you need guns to survive[/QUOTE]
You do?
*In squeaky lisp* "Hey man, we need Scorpion Evos and rpg 16s and AR 15 Gas Fed Field Rifles. Also AA12 fully automatic shotguns with heartbeat sensors and thermal optics!"
I can't belive that most of you are to dumb for Rust
[QUOTE=warlord1999;49846059]I can't belive that most of you are to dumb for Rust[/QUOTE]
Looks like your about the only one man
[QUOTE=warlord1999;49846059]I can't belive that most of you are to dumb for Rust[/QUOTE]
What does this even mean?
As I said a lot of times, the more guns we have the more realistic the apocalypse is
[QUOTE=warlord1999;49846466]As I said a lot of times, the more guns we have the more realistic the apocalypse is[/QUOTE]
Where are you even getting apocalypse from? There is your main issue right there
i'm probably the main "dumb" one here. in 2 other threads i have disagreed with warlord that we need a new kind of assault rifle on top of the ak, and seriously gotten nowhere explaining that it simply doesn't add anything to the game to add every gun he likes.
There are so many threads about "New Weapons". Why cant people calm down and wait for the flamer and mortar to come out.
The only reason the AK should/could even exist in this game is because the gun is so goddamn painfully simple to manufacture and maintain that even a newman can manufacture one. Even better is that the tolerances are so loose on an AK that even if you gave Helen Keller a ruler, the materials, and tools to make it (it) would still fire, regardless of how hilariously off measurement the parts are.
Hell, based on the look of it (the one in-game), it appears that the gun is pretty much entirely hand made without much if any preapoc. parts other than like, the lower half of the magazine, frontgrip (?) and maybe the sights (both the rear block and front post). The receiver is most certainly hand made thanks to the single piece lower/dust cover and lack of a fire selector switch. Certainly not the same as taping a gun back into working order as was previously suggested to be the current method for which the ak was made.
Going back to the idea that an M4 should be craftable, it's absolute nonsense. Airdrop? Sure, but to say that something like the m4 which requires rather precise measurements (as well as having a somewhat weird firing system) and is very nitpicky when it comes to dirt should be manufacturable and easily maintainable in the goddamn apocalypse from metal you made in your own homemade forge is ridiculous. It simply couldn't be done without a great deal of difficulty. Also be sure to add on the fact that there aren't too many particularly large stockpiles of M4s lying around other than at military bases and in the form of the AR15 which would not fair well thanks to the aforementioned dirt and grime issue mentioned earlier as well as not being nearly as common as something like a hunting rifle which we see as the bolt and semi.
As for the other guns, smg's are relatively easy to build (not sure where people'd get tommy guns but w/e) and shotguns can literally be made with a pipe, a nail, and an end cap. Revolvers are fairly simple too and I'm not sure about the semi pistol.
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