• Crash To DT still there, game still broken
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Please. The only 2 things I was looking forward to this patch were performance optimization, and a fix for the crashes to desktop that started happening a couple weeks ago. Unfortunately, the latter prevails, and I honestly am too fed up to see if there is any more performance after this patch. Just hopped on Seattle FP official server after wipe/patch today. Ran about 30 steps. Crashed. Did not restart. In my mind: THIS GAME IS BROKEN WITH RANDOM CRASHES TO DESKTOP. Unless your making gun powder afk inside your house, it is far too risky to have to randomly sleep for a minimum of 20-30 seconds somewhere while you restart game. Thats on a decent system and fast actions. I have decided that I will not play until this is addressed. I have been beyond patient with this one. System specs: Asus m5a99x/FX-8320E, Asus R9 270X factory OC 2gb, 16gb corsair vengeance. Personally, if I could, I would revert back 3-4 patches. When the only thing that was bad was the lagging/lerping, the version just before BPs got added. PLEASE GARRY, I want to play Rust, tell me/us how to help You with this one. PS: I must admit I hated the fact that the last 2 weeks were mainly entirely spent on the new UI, but it does look 10x better (chat needs a resize, and some sort of cooldown to prevent spam tho)
Have you posted your crash logs anywhere? Have you updated your graphics card drivers recently? Is this a widespread problem?
[QUOTE=garry;47043249]Have you posted your crash logs anywhere? Have you updated your graphics card drivers recently? Is this a widespread problem?[/QUOTE] It is a widespread problem. It seems to be an issue with AMD video cards. It started happening after the update a week ago. The further you turn your graphics settings down on startup the less the crashes. I used to run on Fantastic with no problems. Now I have to use the bottom 2 options to prevent crashing.
[QUOTE=Empyreanbodhi;47043286]It is a widespread problem. It seems to be an issue with AMD video cards. It started happening after the update a week ago. The further you turn your graphics settings down on startup the less the crashes. I used to run on Fantastic with no problems. Now I have to use the bottom 2 options to prevent crashing.[/QUOTE] And before everyone else says the same thing to me, THIS IS CALLED A BUG. It is an error in the game coding (memory leak most likely) AND WAS NEVER THERE IN PREVIOUS VERSIONS. Save the "turn down settings" talk for ppl who complain of low FPS. I was running the highest settings on all but shadow distance on until the blueprints patch was dropped. Zero crashes to desktop during that time. [editline]30th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=garry;47043249]Have you posted your crash logs anywhere? Have you updated your graphics card drivers recently? Is this a widespread problem?[/QUOTE] Garry thanks for the reply. Im not exactly sure how to post a crash log? Game crashes straight to desktop. Is there a debug mode I can run for you or something? If so I will try to replicate ASAP and get info to you. Edit 2: Graphics card drivers updated daily with AMD Gaming Evolved.
Tell me more about how it's most likely a memory leak? Are you running out of memory, is that why you're crashing? If not, why do you think it's a memory leak? Crash logs are dropped in dated folders next to the game's exe
[QUOTE=CBaller420;47043309]And before everyone else says the same thing to me, THIS IS CALLED A BUG. It is an error in the game coding (memory leak most likely) AND WAS NEVER THERE IN PREVIOUS VERSIONS. Save the "turn down settings" talk for ppl who complain of low FPS. I was running the highest settings on all but shadow distance on until the blueprints patch was dropped. Zero crashes to desktop during that time. [editline]30th January 2015[/editline] Garry thanks for the reply. Im not exactly sure how to post a crash log? Game crashes straight to desktop. Is there a debug mode I can run for you or something? If so I will try to replicate ASAP and get info to you. Edit 2: Graphics card drivers updated daily with AMD Gaming Evolved.[/QUOTE] First, GPU drivers are NOT updated daily, only checked if up to date, and no in the last few months amd didnt release any official drivers, i am also affected by the same bug, there are even multiple threads on the forum regrding this issue, and one guy posted a solution" .. If you run the app as admin crashes stop, i have checked that option in rust.exe properties, but havent had a chance to play long enough to prove that it is working, it is worth a shot so give it a try [editline]31st January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=garry;47043350]Tell me more about how it's most likely a memory leak? Are you running out of memory, is that why you're crashing? If not, why do you think it's a memory leak? Crash logs are dropped in dated folders next to the game's exe[/QUOTE] It crashes to desktop without any error or anything, just closes, i have 8gb of memory and it is not using that much Edit: typo Edit: The only txt file found by the rust.exe is this [URL="http://www.filedropper.com/logexception"]http://www.filedropper.com/logexception[/URL]
[QUOTE=garry;47043350]Tell me more about how it's most likely a memory leak? Are you running out of memory, is that why you're crashing? If not, why do you think it's a memory leak? Crash logs are dropped in dated folders next to the game's exe[/QUOTE] Hmm taking a look right now, do you just need output_log.txt in Rust/Rustclient_data? Can I PM/email you this?
[QUOTE=CBaller420;47043309]And before everyone else says the same thing to me, THIS IS CALLED A BUG. It is an error in the game coding (memory leak most likely) AND WAS NEVER THERE IN PREVIOUS VERSIONS. Save the "turn down settings" talk for ppl who complain of low FPS. I was running the highest settings on all but shadow distance on until the blueprints patch was dropped. Zero crashes to desktop during that time. [editline]30th January 2015[/editline][/QUOTE] What are you going on about? I wasn't even responding to you. It's a common widespread problem with AMD cards guy. I actually have the same card as you. It's been talked about many times over the last week. The only people with the problem are ones with AMD cards. I don't care if you turn your video settings down or not. I was mentioning the only work around that has been discovered as of yet.
[QUOTE=Empyreanbodhi;47043396]What are you going on about? I wasn't even responding to you. It's a common widespread problem with AMD cards guy. I actually have the same card as you. It's been talked about many times over the last week. The only people with the problem are ones with AMD cards. I don't care if you turn your video settings down or not. I was mentioning the only work around that has been discovered as of yet.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1448196"]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1448196[/URL] [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1448196"]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1448196[/URL] Edit: and this one i made a few days back [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1448118"]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1448118[/URL] A few threads with the same problem, only amd cards
[QUOTE=WarTox;47043422][URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1448196"]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1448196[/URL] [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1448196"]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1448196[/URL] Edit: and this one i made a few days back [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1448118"]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1448118[/URL] A few threads with the same problem, only amd cards[/QUOTE] Thank you. He's just being all pissy.
[QUOTE=Empyreanbodhi;47043436]Thank you. He's just being all pissy.[/QUOTE] No problem ;) this problem is real pain to play with, lost my stuff too many times
i had the same problem (AMD 280X graphics card) always crashing to desktop after a few minutes. Someone suggested running the program as administrator (go into folder and run RustClient as administrator) which I have done and it appears to have fixed the problem. Try that and see if it works for you
[QUOTE=onimaster77;47043550]i had the same problem (AMD 280X graphics card) always crashing to desktop after a few minutes. Someone suggested running the program as administrator (go into folder and run RustClient as administrator) which I have done and it appears to have fixed the problem. Try that and see if it works for you[/QUOTE] Yes, thank you for conforming, i wrote about that few posts above but didnt have time to plpay as long so i can be sure if it worked
[QUOTE=WarTox;47043442]No problem ;) this problem is real pain to play with, lost my stuff too many times[/QUOTE] I just turned my settings back up to Fantastic. Took about 20 minutes to crash. [editline]31st January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=onimaster77;47043550]i had the same problem (AMD 280X graphics card) always crashing to desktop after a few minutes. Someone suggested running the program as administrator (go into folder and run RustClient as administrator) which I have done and it appears to have fixed the problem. Try that and see if it works for you[/QUOTE] I'll have to try that out.
Garry take a look at ticket ref 22291- i have an amd card with latest drivers and game is crashing due to a checksum error amd cards only affected
Is there a way to submit crash logs easily? Preferably an e-mail address that maybe I cant find? I have only dealt with Steam support twice and failed miserably both times. I have only done it with non-steam games.
My HD 7970 and my brothers 7990 do not effect the game like this. I'm on windows 8.1 and he is on windows 7. I wonder what the problem is with your cards. I hope we find the solution soon.
No issue with card as it doesnt crash on other games
[QUOTE=CBaller420;47043834]Is there a way to submit crash logs easily? Preferably an e-mail address that maybe I cant find? I have only dealt with Steam support twice and failed miserably both times. I have only done it with non-steam games.[/QUOTE] usual suggestion is to submit a link here for a site you have posted the log on, but i can't remember where it was that i did it last. the devs look through basically every thread, but don't always reply.
[QUOTE=garry;47043249]Have you posted your crash logs anywhere? Have you updated your graphics card drivers recently? Is this a widespread problem?[/QUOTE] It is widespread. It does seem to be related to AMD cards only AFAIK. I found a solution on the last version of running RustClient.exe as administrator. With the latest patch I get EAC errors and can't seem to get the game to launch anymore unless I do it from Steam. I'll work on posting/sending some crash logs now that I know how to do it. Thanks for looking into this Garry.
[QUOTE=NoodlyMaster;47046440]It is widespread. It does seem to be related to AMD cards only AFAIK. I found a solution on the last version of running RustClient.exe as administrator. With the latest patch I get EAC errors and can't seem to get the game to launch anymore unless I do it from Steam. I'll work on posting/sending some crash logs now that I know how to do it. Thanks for looking into this Garry.[/QUOTE] That's because you're supposed to run Rust.exe; running RustClient.exe bypasses EAC initialization, and when you connect to servers you get kicked because you aren't running EAC--because you bypassed it and ran the client directly. Rust.exe initializes EAC and then chainloads RustClient.exe. Try running Rust.exe as administrator.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;47048076]That's because you're supposed to run Rust.exe; running RustClient.exe bypasses EAC initialization, and when you connect to servers you get kicked because you aren't running EAC--because you bypassed it and ran the client directly. Rust.exe initializes EAC and then chainloads RustClient.exe. Try running Rust.exe as administrator.[/QUOTE] If we were getting kicked from the servers we wouldn't be getting crash dumps would we? Here's the first couple paragraphs after my latest CTD this afternoon found in the dated folder Gary alluded to earlier; Unity Player [version: Unity 5.0.0b21_e285fa5f42d9] RustClient.exe caused an Access Violation (0xc0000005) in module RustClient.exe at 0033:3f53c17b. Error occurred at 2015-01-30_231654. H:\Steam\steamapps\common\rust\RustClient.exe, run by John. 39% memory in use. 16352 MB physical memory [9832 MB free]. 32701 MB paging file [24202 MB free]. 8388608 MB user address space [8384628 MB free]. Read from location 0000000f caused an access violation. Context: RDI: 0xd2e2adf8 RSI: 0x00000003 RAX: 0x7ffffffe RBX: 0x9c43b070 RCX: 0xd2e2adf8 RDX: 0x00000000 RIP: 0x3f53c17b RBP: 0x00000000 SegCs: 0x00000033 EFlags: 0x00010202 RSP: 0x002be770 SegSs: 0x0000002b R8: 0xfffffffc R9: 0x0000001f R10: 0x00000000 R11: 0x002be7d0 R12: 0x002bf230 R13: 0x00000000 R14: 0x00000000 R15: 0x082b0cb0 Bytes at CS:EIP: 49 39 1c c1 49 8d 0c c1 73 10 4c 8d 49 08 48 83 One other thing, I don't know the difference between rust.exe and rustclient.exe. I always start Rust the same way I start every other Steam game I own, right clicking the steam icon in my tray and selecting Rust in the list of games. I will be running the .exe as an admin though to see if that fixes the issue.
Launching Rust from Steam launches Rust.exe, which chainloads EAC and the actual client, properly. I was specifically referring to NoodlyMaster reporting EAC problems with launching RustClient.exe directly. I wasn't even talking to you. Are you getting error logs? Because those will be a lot more useful to garry than a Windows crash dump summary. They're datestamped .log files in datestamped folders in the Rust folder.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;47048929]Launching Rust from Steam launches Rust.exe, which chainloads EAC and the actual client, properly. I was specifically referring to NoodlyMaster reporting EAC problems with launching RustClient.exe directly. I wasn't even talking to you. Are you getting error logs? Because those will be a lot more useful to garry than a Windows crash dump summary. They're datestamped .log files in datestamped folders in the Rust folder.[/QUOTE] As I wrote in the above post the log I posted above came from the log file in the Rust folder. And after running rust.exe as administrator I got another crash but the crash log is the same as above. One other thing that's pretty damn important that I just now realized. That crash log is from last night! The crashes I've experienced today haven't created a log in the dated folder?? What the heck? Theres one other thing that may be related or not that I've either just now noticed or is just showing up. I can't use chat. If I hit the enter key the chat window opens for just a split second then closes again. If I hit "T" the same thing. [editline]31st January 2015[/editline] It's as if the game simply closes. This crash has occurred 4 more times today and nary a change to the error.log file in the dated folder. I cant open the file labeled crash.dmp but the date of it is the same as the other files I've posted here...yesterday the 30th. None of the crashes today have created or changed anything in these error or crash files
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;47048929]Launching Rust from Steam launches Rust.exe, which chainloads EAC and the actual client, properly. I was specifically referring to NoodlyMaster reporting EAC problems with launching RustClient.exe directly. I wasn't even talking to you. Are you getting error logs? Because those will be a lot more useful to garry than a Windows crash dump summary. They're datestamped .log files in datestamped folders in the Rust folder.[/QUOTE] I guess it worked when EAC was not active. Now that it's back on it won't work. Trying to run Rust.exe first gets me an error.
Now its just unplayable. Crashed to desktop after 45 seconds in game. Fucking ridiculous. I have 309 hours in this game, stopped playing for 8 months or so and now I can't even play for an hour. Back to H1Z1 for me I guess....That game runs and looks great, but it's just a wannabe compared to what Rust is and could be.......if only I could run this damn game.
Yes, runing as admin doesnt fix it, it crashes for me to, how do we debug this??? Its frustrating to say the least
[QUOTE=EdSurly;47049425]Now its just unplayable. Crashed to desktop after 45 seconds in game. Fucking ridiculous. I have 309 hours in this game, stopped playing for 8 months or so and now I can't even play for an hour. Back to H1Z1 for me I guess....That game runs and looks great, but it's just a wannabe compared to what Rust is and could be.......if only I could run this damn game.[/QUOTE] Just to let you know, the people who stick around and are patient are gonna get their stuff fixed eventually. The people who spaz out and post rage comments about leaving are gonna get banned and not be missed.
[QUOTE=Thor-axe;47050043]Just to let you know, the people who stick around and are patient are gonna get their stuff fixed eventually. The people who spaz out and post rage comments about leaving are gonna get banned and not be missed.[/QUOTE] I must admit I had to rewrite my original post. First draft too hostile. I believe us affected by this bug all believed that the dev team were aware of it. At least I did after reading all of the posts on reddit since it started happening. Obviously i was in the wrong place for help. I have only played a few minutes in this patch. 4 crashes in ten mins. Tried both ends of graphics settings, also running as admin. I have a few crash logs to give to Garry I just need a way to get them to him.
[QUOTE=Thor-axe;47050043]Just to let you know, the people who stick around and are patient are gonna get their stuff fixed eventually. The people who spaz out and post rage comments about leaving are gonna get banned and not be missed.[/QUOTE] Go fuck yourself Thore-axe I don't give a damn what you think, I've been playing Rust and posting/lurking on this forum longer than you have. You may have a higher post count than me but I've been here longer. You might want to look at the date below someones name before spouting off about "sticking around" and stuff "getting fixed". Damn near a year away from this game and its a much worse game than when I left. It doesn't get any worse than a game you can't fucking play. And I will continue to stick around, I'm not going to delete my game. Just pissed of to realize that the game has regressed in the last year. The admins can ban me for posting what I think if they want, I don't give a damn it won't be the first....I've had higher opinions of what comes out of the hind end of my Labrador than you Thor. There. Rant over. [editline]31st January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=CBaller420;47050295]I must admit I had to rewrite my original post. First draft too hostile. [/QUOTE] Well, it's obvious your a better person than I. Well done CBaller (no sarcasm intended and hopefully none is taken)
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